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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:15 am

    20.10.2022
    Business newspaper "Vzglyad"

    Where to expect a new Russian offensive


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29 - Page 38 S_prib10
    Image; RIA Novosti


    Without waiting for the arrival of the reservists, who are still undergoing training in the rear, Russian troops took control of the village of Vorobyovka in the Kupyansky direction. Perhaps this local success heralds a larger onslaught. Obviously, with the arrival of the reservists, the alignment of forces will change and a new Russian offensive should be expected. Where are the most vulnerable sections of the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

    During the offensive in the Kharkov region in the Kupyansk direction, the Russian armed forces occupied the village of Vorobyovka (Gorobyovka). At the same time, they inflicted a significant defeat on units of the 1st operational brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, spokesman for the Ministry of Defense, announced on Tuesday.

    In addition, in the area of ​​the Kharkov village of Kislovka, "an attempt to attack a company tactical group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reinforced with tanks, was thwarted," the general added. According to him, in just one day the enemy lost more than 60 people in the Kupyansk direction, one tank, three armored combat vehicles and two pickup trucks.

    In the neighboring sector of the front, in the direction of the city of Krasny Liman, recently occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in the areas of the Lugansk villages of Stelmakhovka and Rozovka and the Donetsk villages of Karpovka and Ivanovka, "attempts to cross the enemy across the Zherebets River were thwarted," Konashenkov said. According to a representative of the Ministry of Defense, 46 Ukrainian soldiers, two armored personnel carriers, six armored combat vehicles and also two pickup trucks with heavy machine guns were destroyed in the fighting there.

    The head of the department of Eurasian integration and development of the SCO of the Institute of CIS countries, reserve lieutenant colonel Vladimir Evseev, does not consider the capture of Vorobyovka a sign of a major offensive. "According to my assumptions, we are talking about improving our tactical position, about occupying one of the sections of the" gray zone "than about the liberation of a settlement occupied by Ukrainian troops. Yes, the tactical position of our troops is improving, but it is too early to talk about the liberation of the Kharkov region or complete liberation of the LNR,” he warns.

    The main "point of tension" for Ukraine remains the agglomeration of Artemovsk (Bakhmut)
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    the military expert believes. "The liberation of Artemovsk and neighboring Soledar continues. After that, the enemy is likely to leave Seversk, otherwise this city will be surrounded. This will allow us to reach the last line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass - Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Konstantinovka. At the same time, it will be necessary to destroy a number of enemy groups in the rear , in particular in Ugledar and Avdeevka," Evseev explained.

    Military expert Mikhail Onufrienko also believes that the capture of Vorobyovka portends an offensive in the Kharkov direction. "This village is located on the left, eastern bank of the Oskol, so we have before us a part of a limited offensive campaign, the goal of which is to squeeze the enemy from the eastern bank of the Oskol and create a long-term line of defense along this bank," Onufrienko explained.

    According to the expert, from the borders of Russia up to the Krasny Liman, along the banks of the Seversky Donets River, "long-term concrete fortifications, including firing points, are being created - this fortified area is designed for many months, so it is better to place it along the river bank, which is why the task is to squeeze out the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the maximum from the left bank". According to him, the enemy is now building long-term fortifications not in the Kharkov region, but in the Nikopol direction, that is, from the side of the city of Krivoy Rog.

    The enemy is apparently convinced that our big offensive is being prepared along the right bank of the Dnieper,


    having the ultimate goal of liberating Zaporozhye," the interlocutor added. However, this means that the Russian army needs to prepare an offensive elsewhere - where "where no one is waiting," and "the Kharkov region, which was abandoned, could eventually become such a direction." , suggests Onufrienko.

    A military expert, a graduate of the Higher Diplomatic Academy of France, Alexander Artamonov, also believes that the battle for Artemovsk remains the main thing for the Russian army, "and in the near future our group will be strengthened there" in order to push back the front line and cut off the supply of the garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in neighboring Avdiivka. According to him, "the village of Vodyanoe must be taken, which will make it possible to shoot through the whole of Avdeevka."

    “As for the more northern regions, the line of the Oskol River should become a “point of tension” for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We are now positionally standing between the cities of Kremennaya and Svatovo, building positional fortifications there along the “road of life” from Svatovo to Krasny Liman. front line. If the Ukrainian Armed Forces cut the road, this will lead to very big problems in supplying all our troops in the area," Artamonov explained.

    The expert especially noted the efforts of the local Cossack brigades, which "are advancing slowly, literally a meter, setting themselves the goal of recapturing Liman." "We must recapture Liman as soon as possible, this is primarily a moral and political duty," the interlocutor is convinced.

    In turn, Evseev expects that with the arrival of fresh units, replenished through mobilization, "in about a month" there will be a turning point at the front in the Kharkov region. "The forces will be enough to not squeeze out, but encircle the Ukrainian troops there. In addition, we will be able to carry out offensive operations in another sector of the front - in the direction of Nikolaev," the expert expects.

    He also did not rule out that already in November Russia would again attempt an offensive from the territory of Belarus, as happened at the very beginning of the special operation. It is no coincidence that President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko recently announced the formation of a joint grouping in the country.

    Meanwhile, General of the Army Sergei Surovikin, commander of the Joint Grouping of Forces in the area of ​​the Northern Military District, said on Tuesday that the total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day range from six hundred to a thousand people killed and wounded. Nevertheless, the enemy does not leave attempts to attack the positions of the RF Armed Forces, primarily the Kupyanskoye, Krasnolimanskoye and Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog directions, the commander added.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:37 am

    * 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Lancets continue to punish khokhols
    https://t.me/intelslava/39691

    07:13 🇺🇲 The F-35A Lightning II fighter jet crashed in the USA
    https://t.me/intelslava/39682
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29 - Page 38 Photo_30



    09:14 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Air alert has been declared throughout Ukraine.
    https://t.me/intelslava/39696


    09:26 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Takeoff of MiG-31K carrier of "Kinzhal" missiles from Machulishchi air base in Belarus recorded, - UkroSMI
    https://t.me/intelslava/39697


    10:00 🇧🇾🇷🇺 At this moment, the Russian aviation component of the regional grouping of troops (forces) is carrying out scheduled patrols of the air borders of the Union State.
    Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus
    https://t.me/intelslava/39698


    10:02 🇺🇦❗ In Kiev and the region, there have been problems with the Internet since the night, the connection level in the capital has dropped to 81% of the usual, there are also connection problems across the country — Netblocks
    https://t.me/intelslava/39699

    11:02 🇷🇺🇺🇦 The RF Armed Forces took control of a part of the railway line in the Gorobyovka region
    railway line leading to Kupyansk
    https://t.me/intelslava/39700


    11:04 🇷🇺🇺🇦 The results of yesterday's offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Berislav.
    Killed, prisoners, destroyed equipment of armed forces of ukraine
    https://t.me/intelslava/39701


    11:07 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russian kamikaze UAV strikes the Ukrainian position
    https://t.me/intelslava/39705


    11:22 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡In the course of repulsing an enemy attack attempt in the Krivoy Rog direction, 2 tanks, 1 infantry fighting vehicle and 1 UR-77 "Meteorite" were captured as trophies. 18 enemy soldiers and officers were captured.
    https://t.me/intelslava/39706


    11:27 🇺🇦 Ukrainian insider telegram channel:

    Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President instructed the SBU to control the publication of the destruction of critical infrastructure, all information should be stopped and not get into social networks. At Bankova, they want to minimize the psychological effect of missile strikes on Ukrainians and prevent the release of information to the Western media. Technologists believe that this may cause doubts among our partners and a new wave of weapons sabotage.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:17 pm

    dionis wrote:
    Where's the math on this "grind the enemy down" theory? I'm starting to believe it less and less, because there's just too many mobilization-capable men left in Ukraine.

    If Russia controlled more territory, they would have control over supply routes (including potentially limiting Western support), repair and communication facilities, more parts of the energy grid, etc - which would massively hamper the war effort.

    Given that I haven't heard anyone present any actual numbers for this "grind em down" theory it's starting to look more and more like cope for the Russian side while they build manpower.

    It's not a cope, it's the same thing they've been doing since week 2 or 3 of the war when they decided to limit the speed of their advances and the scope of them, with the words of Putin at that time being of the effect to minimize our own casualties

    Then evidently after Mariupol and calculating how many people were lost there, there was less of an appetite for pitched city battles too.

    Surovikin in this latest interview affirmed the strategy. He expressly mentioned grinding the enemy down, which in his words allows not only to minimize own casualties, but minimize civilian casualties too.

    Yes I agree if Russia had control over X or Y it would hamper the war effort. But gaining control of it will require advancing too far, ending up in deeply hostile territory and exposed.
    As it is, Russia can strike most of these supply routes, repair and communication facilities, and other targets at stand-off range. Depending on the type of target the effectiveness will vary, but it can be done at minimal risk.

    As for the Ukraine having mobilization capable men left - in WW1 all the great powers still had armies of men left even after 4 years of war. With casualty rates exceeding that what we see now. And total populations not necessarily too much higher than pre-war Ukraine's.
    Granted back then millions fleeing mobilization as happened in the Ukraine, as well as having millions outside the country working before that - was not an option.

    Judging by the recent statements of the Pentagon, the Ukraine seems to be on the road towards giving up the ghost and thus the grinding war is having more of an effect then is admitted.

    billybatts91 wrote:
    So what's the objective in Ukraine now? To keep losing territory and never make any large offensives to take those lost territories back? That's the plan? Defend an ever-shrinking Russian controlled mini-Novorossiya? WTF? Listen to yourself and how absurd you optimists are...this is unacceptable talk. If this is the strategy this will lead to disaster and Ukrainian victory for sure. If Russia is not offensive minded and not hell bent on destroying Ukraine military until they capitulate this will end in failure for sure. It's a loser mindset from Russia and from people supporting this idiotic strategy.

    Who said never?
    I said the priority is to grind enemy forces down
    When that's accomplished we can see whatever
    Or possibly before that if Russia decides to deal some knock-out blows and threaten Kiev or try to encircle this or that. But these ideas too require Ukrainian reserves to be depleted first.


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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:19 pm

    Backman wrote:UKR REPORT
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    #NEW ⚡US JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF MARK MILLEY: - IF UKRAINE FALLS, THE CURRENT WORLD ORDER WILL COLLAPSE.

    Whether intentional or not Miley put his finger on a very important fact, the effect on the US and NATO of losing in Ukraine.

    Most of us here recognise that Ukraine is but a battle in the war that the US is fighting to retain its hegemony but it has turned into not just any battle but the turning point battle. Its loss combined with the devastating effects of the Russian sanctions on Europe, the other main aspect of the US's strategy, will almost certainly lead to the collapse of the EU , no money left to fund it, and the breakup of NATO.

    Overlaid on top of this are the US half time elections where, all things being equal, the 'war' party are likely to lose effective power in Congress.

    Combine the two and the World is in a very, very dangerous time.

    I was watching an interview with Bill Holter, a US silver market expert and he took the view that those in power could not afford to lose the election and are planning a false flag event that would give them the excuse to delay or even cancel it. The obvious candidate, given the way the MSM have been primed, is a 'Russian' nuke in Ukraine, probably in Kiev for maximum PR impact. Or even on Rzeszow, the Polish airfield for Ukraine supplies. Either would fit the bill of Russia trying to reverse their losing position in Ukraine that the public has been sold on.

    God help us, is about all one can say.

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    Post  gc3762 Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:26 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Backman wrote:UKR REPORT
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    #NEW ⚡US JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF MARK MILLEY: - IF UKRAINE FALLS, THE CURRENT WORLD ORDER WILL COLLAPSE.


    I was watching an interview with Bill Holter, a US silver market expert and he took the view that those in power could not afford to lose the election and are planning a false flag event that would give them the excuse to delay or even cancel it. The obvious candidate, given the way the MSM have been primed, is a 'Russian' nuke in Ukraine, probably in Kiev for maximum PR impact. Or even on Rzeszow, the Polish airfield for Ukraine supplies. Either would fit the bill of Russia trying to reverse their losing position in Ukraine that the public has been sold on.

    God help us, is about all one can say.

    A false flag doesn't matter Medvedev has already called their bluff and Macron agrees Russia can tactical nuke Ukraine without a response. More bullshit from the West.

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    Post  AMCXXL Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:45 pm

    https://peremogi.livejournal.com/63592279.html

    Stremousov announced plans to liberate three more regions
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    Kherson is preparing to repel the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), and then move on to the liberation of three more regions - Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk and Nikolaev. This was stated to RIA Novosti by the deputy head of the administration of the Kherson region Kirill Stremousov.

    "After repelling the attack on Kherson, we plan to launch a counteroffensive on Nikolaev, Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk," Stremousov stressed.


    As the KP.RU website wrote earlier, Kirill Stremousov said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an offensive in the direction of Novaya Kamenka - Berislav, Kherson region. According to him, all attacks by Ukrainian troops have been repelled, while Russian forces continue to hold the line of defense.

    Recall that the acting head of the region Volodymyr Saldo informed that the authorities of the Kherson region close entry for civilians for seven days. At the same time,
    Saldo assured that no one was going to surrender Kherson: the allied forces were ready to go on the offensive and were waiting for the departure of the civilian population.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:49 pm

    gc3762 wrote:
    A false flag doesn't matter Medvedev has already called their bluff and Macron agrees Russia can tactical nuke Ukraine without a response. More bullshit from the West.

    Yes, but a smart one. The bullshit.
    First, they are making an extremely intense coverage of this conflict, orchestrated at an absurd level and direction.
    People in ze Wezt really thing that Ukrs are winning.
    So is they are winning, yet Russkie are loosing, right?
    So can go desperate, correct?
    Now link the dots, and what we have is a perfect environment for staging a false flag, and make own societies to belive it was a genuine Russian strike.
    Sometimes while watching the western coverage, one can't get rid of the impression that it is being created by the multiple sources, and aiming a different goals.
    We are being delusioned that there is some "voice of Europe", while there is none. From most EU countries' perspective, things went much too far, but obviously the EU bearaucrats have no idea how to make a step back. This is emotions now, and I will remind you again of how many EU member states are ruled by the pussies. Literally Twisted Evil Not that the thugs like Boris were better by an inch, but still we have a very different approach to the politics. And, sadly, Russian ruling class might really have an issue with getting that, while represents the ideological opposite.

    Then we have a NATO narrative, where they are flexing the muscles to pretend how powerful the alliance is, while having no cards to play. The thing is getting clear to any curious observer. Sometimes I got a feeling, that this Stoltenshit or something is being push back&forward considering the situation

    Then we have the US narrative, that is separated from both. They have an obvious economic goal to kill the EU, doing that with no mercy, and give a shit at any other part of the whole story in a way different than propaganda. And the US position is not equal either! We have opposite interests and fractions, and the most sane voice from  time to time is coming from the Pentagon.

    Do you know what is the difference? In the US, objectively, an alternative narrative is being presented even by the big media like Fox. We have multiple sources contesting the official narrative, and sometimes we can even watch someone who just describe the facts obviously against the program agenda. Like this economic professor who just massacred the CNN hosts with an answer to "who blow the pipes?".
    This thing is totally not an option in Europe. The only difference among the European narrative, is if that is already a 150% antiRussian hate campaign, or they are just 100% in the stream.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:35 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Oh just f*ck off with your Nazi bullshit

    ..and you can shove yer head where the sun don't shine and ignore what should be readily apparent to anyone with a functioning brain-stem.

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    Post  Hole Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:35 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29 - Page 38 Ffdwdu10
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    NSFW:
    Kherson offensive is going as planned.  pale

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    Post  billybatts91 Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:44 pm



    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol! lol! lol!

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:48 pm

    Papadragon, **** this and **** that, you Nazi, he Nazi..... bounce




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    Post  famschopman Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:03 pm

    I just find it amazing to see the extent of damage that can be done to armored vehicles. You think you are protected and driving something well-fortified, but tons of very thick armor grade steel and it's obliterated with turrets being blown off.

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    Post  famschopman Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:12 pm

    I just don't trust it. Somethings off.

    For those who can see beyond the usual Western media garbage the Ukraine/NATO/US are clearly losing the battle. Infrastructure down, mass military casualties, air defenses almost gone, and most important territory is now being fortified extensively and soon you will find top of the line air defenses there as well. The alliance between Russia, India, China and Saudis is only getting stronger. Israel also gave them the finger. The EU is at the forefront of total collapse.

    There is nothing to win here for the US. The dollar is becoming too weak to keep maintaining their own military industrial hungry monster. The UK is close to insolvency and the Saudis said 'اللعنة عليك'

    If I was the US I'd find a way to salvage anything and cut my losses, but this feels like total desperation and inevitable self-destruction - which I'm fine with - but I just cannot put the pieces of this puzzle together. It doesn't make sense in any way.

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    Post  Isos Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:12 pm

    Impressive lancet drones. They seem to have created a much better variant than the first they were showing.

    This new version has a HEAT warhead and seem to mount a very good camera with night vision.

    It seems they come to this forum to find some idea. I already said a heat warhead with very little penetration will be able to take out any tank from the top. And if it can destroy tanks then it can destroy anything.

    First version with frag warhead was barely good against infantry. But the rral value of those drones is to take out enemy vehicles. No vehicles no war capability.

    And with 40km range, probably 70km for this new lancet that could have taken Kub propulsion, it can cover all the front.

    Geran-2, Cruise and ballistic missiles to attack enemy fixed and big targets deep into territory.

    Lancet to take out any vehicle on the front beyond line of sight helped by Orion drones.

    Kornet to take out them within line of sight.

    MLRS to attack infantry.

    They still need a tochka to attack ammo depot and bases on the front.

    With all this they will be safe.
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    Post  kvs Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:21 pm

    Hole wrote:
    NSFW:
    Kherson offensive is going as planned.  pale

    It has a mine trigger roller attachment.   So did it run into a mine too big for it to handle or was it taken out another way?

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    Post  billybatts91 Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:31 pm

    Grand opening........grand closing lol...

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:32 pm

    kvs wrote:
    It has a mine trigger roller attachment.   So did it run into a mine too big for it to handle or was it taken out another way?

    Nope.
    They are making a classic fire recon missions for a while.
    But the problem is, that they have neither the strength nor equipment to exploit that in any manner when they touch a real defense line.
    Those tanks are there to trawl the approach via minefields and are targeted by the VDV anti tank units.
    Yesterday POWs stated they are sappers, and one of the trophies is UR-77 Meteorit. They are trying to get closer to the defensive positions, so maybe the Russkie art won't blow them to pieces if tried at night with SUVs.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:38 pm

    Truss has resigned, according to Sputnik news.

    source

    The Ukraine Curse claims yet another scalp!  Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

    Hilarious!! Gods but I hated that dumb arrogant elitist zionist Russophobic bitch from Hell.  Twisted Evil

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:42 pm

    Winter is comming.
    There will be no 40 000 "excessive winter deaths" but four times that.
    Seems nobody want's to face that from the pole position.

    Besides it is all another thing!

    She is heading Ukropistan. She said that is a winner not a quitter, right?

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    Post  Mir Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:52 pm

    This winter is not going to be any better for EU leadership as well Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:55 pm

    Mir wrote:This winter is not going to be any better for EU leadership as well Laughing

    STFU, you are living in a bloody warm country!!


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    Post  Mir Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:59 pm

    Living in Africa does have it's benefits Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:02 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Truss has resigned, according to Sputnik news.


    Yup, resigned but will stay as PM for the week or so until a replacement found.

    Basically a victim of the backfiring sanctions on Russia, specifically the gas embargoes.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:06 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Truss has resigned, according to Sputnik news.


    Yup, resigned but will stay as PM for the week or so until a replacement found.

    14:45 🇬🇧❗The Truss premiership was the shortest in the history of Britain - only 45 days


    Does that mean she will rule for a full 52 days or 59 days if the replacement lasts a week or two longer ? unshaven



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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:06 pm

    Hard to call her "a victim" considering that she was one of architects of this hucpa - that is point 1.
    And point 2, UK is buying gas on the stock exchange for a very long time, so the gas embargo hits you only indirectly. Due to general lack of gas.

    Anyway, she didn't survived the Lettuce Experiment it seems Laughing Laughing Laughing

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