Russian special military operation in Ukraine #25

Arkanghelsk wrote:So the Kremlins bet, is that the West won't last the duration of the conflict which they will keep going for long time

Based on Putins words

Hopefully he's right- if he's wrong, it's a fatal error

ucmvulcan wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:So the Kremlins bet, is that the West won't last the duration of the conflict which they will keep going for long time

Based on Putins words

Hopefully he's right- if he's wrong, it's a fatal error

As I said earlier, he [Putin] said the SMO is to be a limited war where the aim is not long term occupation but liberating Donbass, killing the Nazis and demilitarizing Ukraine and NATO.  

However, in this post you broach upon my biggest fear.  That he is planning for a local military conflict along side a global economic, diplomatic, energy, and culture war and NATO is planning for a total military conflict around the globe

I see his logic, bankrupt NATO and the US by making them spend lots of money on sending weapons to Ukraine while they are starved of gas, fertilizer, and various industrial components while all Russia does is drain its tank parks and bone yards of equipment meant for a global war that the world miraculously avoided in the 60s, 70s, and 80s and use its large wealth of natural resources to outlast the west.

However, the problem is he may be losing Kazakhstan and other parts of Central Asia if they don't see some decisive victories very soon

ucmvulcan wrote:However, the problem is he may be losing Kazakhstan and other parts of Central Asia if they don't see some decisive victories very soon

ucmvulcan wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:So
Hopefully he's right- if he's wrong, it's a fatal error

As I said earlier, he [Putin] said the SMO is to be a limited war where the aim is not long term occupation but liberating Donbass, killing the Nazis and demilitarizing Ukraine and NATO.  

However, in this post you broach upon my biggest fear.  That he is planning for a local military conflict along side a global economic, diplomatic, energy, and culture war and NATO is planning for a total military conflict around the globe

I see his logic, bankrupt NATO and the US by making them spend lots of money on sending weapons to Ukraine while they are starved of gas, fertilizer, and various industrial components while all Russia does is drain its tank parks and bone yards of equipment meant for a global war that the world miraculously avoided in the 60s, 70s, and 80s and use its large wealth of natural resources to outlast the west.

However, the problem is he may be losing Kazakhstan and other parts of Central Asia if they don't see some decisive victories very soon

Broski wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:However, the problem is he may be losing Kazakhstan and other parts of Central Asia if they don't see some decisive victories very soon

Kazakhstan isn't being antagonistic to Russia because of the Ukraine war but simply because their oligarchs are greedy and stupid, they haven't learned anything from the attempted color revolution not too long ago. Worst comes to the worst, I believe the Kazakh military will execute a coup détat against its useless government and set things straight with its oligarchs and the Russian Federation.

Backman wrote:

I think this idea of starving out and waiting out the west is way more provocative than Putin thinks. More provocative than just blasting a 300 kilometre buffer zone from the borders of Kherson and Donbas with 250,000 troops.

Get the world used to the new reality on the ground instead of this slow grinding war that they think they have a chance in.

dionis wrote:So who was it that said Russia is using 10-15% of its military in Ukraine?

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Our economy nor would the EU be sacrificed over sending mere equipment, I you guys think the west will crash over the current situation buts that hilariously misguided and just mind blowing feeble minded logic.

A case of when fan boys hope their wet dreams will become reality but it won't

Backman wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:So
Hopefully he's right- if he's wrong, it's a fatal error

As I said earlier, he [Putin] said the SMO is to be a limited war where the aim is not long term occupation but liberating Donbass, killing the Nazis and demilitarizing Ukraine and NATO.  

However, in this post you broach upon my biggest fear.  That he is planning for a local military conflict along side a global economic, diplomatic, energy, and culture war and NATO is planning for a total military conflict around the globe

I see his logic, bankrupt NATO and the US by making them spend lots of money on sending weapons to Ukraine while they are starved of gas, fertilizer, and various industrial components while all Russia does is drain its tank parks and bone yards of equipment meant for a global war that the world miraculously avoided in the 60s, 70s, and 80s and use its large wealth of natural resources to outlast the west.

However, the problem is he may be losing Kazakhstan and other parts of Central Asia if they don't see some decisive victories very soon

I think this idea of starving out and waiting out the west is way more provocative than Putin thinks. More provocative than just blasting a 300 kilometre buffer zone from the borders of Kherson and Donbas with 250,000 troops.

Get the world used to the new reality on the ground instead of this slow grinding war that they think they have a chance in.

Podlodka77 wrote:

dionis wrote:So who was it that said Russia is using 10-15% of its military in Ukraine?

Bro, who shook your cage and woke you up from your winter sleep ? You only have 100+ posts in 10 years, so that's why I'm asking.

dionis wrote:So who was it that said Russia is using 10-15% of its military in Ukraine?

mnztr wrote:Did Xi and Modi put pressure on Putin at the SCO meetings? Modi in particular seems to express impatience

Podlodka77 wrote:

mnztr wrote:Did Xi and Modi put pressure on Putin at the SCO meetings? Modi in particular seems to express impatience

What pressure? Pressure is what the whole world feels when it comes to Western "civilization". That's why this whole conflict is going on.

mnztr wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

mnztr wrote:Did Xi and Modi put pressure on Putin at the SCO meetings? Modi in particular seems to express impatience

What pressure? Pressure is what the whole world feels when it comes to Western "civilization". That's why this whole conflict is going on.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/16/putin-tells-modi-he-wants-ukraine-war-to-end-as-soon-as-possible

dionis wrote:So who was it that said Russia is using 10-15% of its military in Ukraine?

mnztr wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

mnztr wrote:Did Xi and Modi put pressure on Putin at the SCO meetings? Modi in particular seems to express impatience

What pressure? Pressure is what the whole world feels when it comes to Western "civilization". That's why this whole conflict is going on.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/16/putin-tells-modi-he-wants-ukraine-war-to-end-as-soon-as-possible

par far wrote:

Backman wrote:

dionis wrote:So who was it that said Russia is using 10-15% of its military in Ukraine?

The bulk of the fighting force is the Donbas militia, Wagner PMC and Kadyrovs armies. You can see it from the footage. A total lack of Russian troops. During Mariupol, there was maybe 10% of the Russian military fighting. Since then, it is undoubtably lower.