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    Post  flamming_python Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:30 am

    JohninMK wrote:From a MoA poster. If correct and he knows Russia knows too. This looks as if it could be the enactment of the original Feb 2022 UA attack plans. The build up to concentrations of forces like this must be vulnerable when fighting is already underway.

    From Russell Bentley's Telegram channel. Hate to share this one, this is worse than it sounds, Russell's not a doom and gloom guy, he's grounded and not into idle head games and counting blog hits. Seems the world's on an edge of a knife right now.

    looks like ukrop nazis will soon attack Donetsk. As I have said since 2015, "As goes Donbass, so goes the world." If Donetsk falls, Russia will fall. Lyudmila and I are staying. I have a pistol and machinegun and we will defend our home till the last breath. We will not be captured.

    In n.p. Krasnogorovka is a large concentration of enemy forces. Interestingly, there are a lot of sandy-colored vehicles without the characteristic camouflage inherent in the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    Also, “local residents” recorded more than three hundred servicemen who speak only English and have camouflage uniforms such as “multicam”, that is, presumably representatives of foreign PMCs.

    The information is correct.

    The enemy is stretching the reserves along the flanks (Kherson, Kharkov) exposing the center (Donetsk).

    The main two strikes will presumably be inflicted on the Donetsk direction.

    The first strike will be delivered at night in the area of Vuhledar/Red Partizan in order to cut the Mariupol-Donetsk highway and divert resources available in the Donetsk direction to neutralize this breakthrough. It will take place during the day.

    On the second day, in order to neutralize the covert command and control (SUV), a second blow will be delivered - right on Donetsk. Most likely, this will happen in the Avdeevka direction, since there is a large transport hub there - the DKAD (the Yasinovataya-Makeevka direction).

    Based on the analysis of the Kharkov strategy for the use of units, the commanders of the VFU operations primarily use the tactics of breakthroughs using mechanized
    units, which most likely means an attempt to break through in the Yasinovataya-Makeevka direction along asphalt roads and block the Donetsk-Makeevka highway, which will lead to the operational encirclement of Donetsk.

    An additional blow will presumably develop in the direction of Pervomaiskoye/Vodyanoye-Peski-Donetsk.

    Considering the foregoing, we can conclude that the main direction of the strike of the entire large counteroffensive plan is not Kherson or Kharkov, but Donetsk, the loss of which, both in the media and in the strategic plan, could be a collapse for the entire Special Military Operation.

    Good, the Ukraine is being lured into another offensive

    In n.p. Krasnogorovka is a large concentration of enemy forces. Interestingly, there are a lot of sandy-colored vehicles without the characteristic camouflage inherent in the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    Also, “local residents” recorded more than three hundred servicemen who speak only English and have camouflage uniforms such as “multicam”, that is, presumably representatives of foreign PMCs.

    Keep 'em coming

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Looks like journalists have no more safety issues with reporting from the front

    And Ukrainians are getting comfortable in their new holdings

    Someone is definitely taking their sweet time

    Looking at it from here it's starting to look awfully a lot like 1995:

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    Whatever Ruskies plan on doing (if they plan anything at all) they might start considering getting around doing it

    Eastern Kharkov is not full of pro-Russians or Russians although it has a fair number of them.

    I'd remind you that this territory did not have an uprising in 2014 or at least not a successful one

    Russia can leave and come back a short time later, so long as it offered people evacuation it's no big deal

    Arkanghelsk wrote:This whole shit was sold to people as a patriotic rebirth

    It's a big lie, they wrote articles on corruption of Serdyukov

    Guess where he works now? Rostec with Putin buddy Chemezov

    This was a cabal , they did this SMO like a cabal, no questions asked, and they bungled it

    What was the point of the military reform? I thought the money spent was good because it was allocated correctly without corruption

    But this army cannot stop an ex soviet , NATO trained cannon fodder so called "largest in europe" army

    Now we know why a dry dock was finally built after kuznetsov spent a good portion of 15 to 20 years at dock

    Now we know why the construction schedule for military projects is a joke

    Now we know why there was no counterattack in Kharkov

    These clowns sold the USSR, best army ever, for this corrupt shit that could not protect the Russian people in Donbass and in Eastern Ukraine

    Alexander Lebed, Lev Rokhlin, and all those generals that spoke in 90s and early 2000s were completely right of the beastiality of Putin and his regime

    Zyuganov himself says we should mobilize

    But peskov and the statesmen throw it off the table

    I'm voting KPRF , ain't it funny how shit work out?

    We've been told that fight against corruption was successful against Gaidar , Chubais, Kudrin and Niabiullina

    The scum keep running the show , and all patriots ? Dead and gone  

    As Chernomyrdin said  "We wanted the best, but it turned out like always."

    Putin has not lost a war yet or been defeated in any geopolitical gamble either other than perhaps the Maidan revolution in 2014; but Yanukovich was not really Moscow's man anyway.

    So I suggest you have a little faith in the leadership.

    Backman wrote:3 days ago , i was confident that whatever happens , Russia can always bring more to bare and win. Now we have guys like Russell Bentley talking about Donetsk being attacked and encircled.

    I'm not sure anymore.

    He's probably operating under orders

    It's pretty laughable how we went from the annihilation of Ukrainian units around Kherson to now a threat against Donetsk with the entire Donetsk People's Militia and various Russian units between them and the city not to mention the city itself.

    And in all seriousness, it's pretty obvious that Russia is putting on a show. It has to be a convincing show. But whatever words are uttered or whatever orders the troops have - really can't take away from the fact that Russia proved that it has the capability to stomp a Ukrainian offensive any time it wants, and has plenty of mobile reserves and air-power to deploy if it needed to within a very short amount of time.


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    Post  sepheronx Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:32 am

    If they attack DNR, they will be fighting a massive force, probably larger than what Ukraine is gonna throw at.

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    Post  Regular Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:58 am

    Isos wrote:

    That's still disturbing to watch and not funny at all.

    Forum rules want ypu to advize of such videos when posting.

    Agree, what is worse - it's fake.

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:00 am

    Napoleon sent a huge mass of soldiers to russia they all died from the weather and scorch earth tactics.

    Hitler sent a huge mass of soldiers to russia they all died from the weather and scorch earth tactics.

    Zelensky sent a huge mass of soldiers of 40K+ soldiers all of a sudden the charges have reached a halt meaning their momentum has stopped, with electric and gas out with this war dragging we will see Ukraines response later.

    It may look like Napoleon, Hitler and Zelensky were winning, but my faith sort of became restored when the huge offensives came to a grinding halt so far which now depends if Ukraine wants to send more bodies.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:11 am

    thegopnik wrote:you know things have gotten bad when Azerbaijan and Georgia want to start a fight with you next Embarassed

    Who?

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    Post  Broski Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:17 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    thegopnik wrote:you know things have gotten bad when Azerbaijan and Georgia want to start a fight with you next Embarassed

    Who?
    Two cockroaches that want to start a fight with a Huntsman Spider.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:44 am

    and that's only Kharkov power plant bomb ... kaboom i guess it wasn't KAB-25 Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil



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    Post  crod Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:50 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:and that's only Kharkov power plant bomb ... kaboom i guess it wasn't KAB-25  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil



    https://t.me/rybar/38664

    holy hell batman...what on earth was used? jaysus they'll need a bit cabling to repair that.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:53 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:and that's only Kharkov power plant bomb ... kaboom i guess it wasn't KAB-25 Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil



    https://t.me/rybar/38664

    Smoking can be hazardous to your health 😜

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:10 am

    Kharkiv region, night
    Celsius +10
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    https://t.me/rusich_army/5102

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    Post  Broski Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:30 am

    When he's not causing Norwegian frigates to crash into oil tankers and hiking the price of gas in america...

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:30 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:and that's only Kharkov power plant bomb ... kaboom i guess it wasn't KAB-25 Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    https://t.me/rybar/38664

    Yeah, that's the good stuff

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    Fab500, where is the army ? Send them in with these flying overhead, run Ukrainians over

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    Post  Stealthflanker Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:56 am

    I'll be honest i would love to see Su-34 with KAB-500 or 1500 or that new bomb they put on Su-35's. Leave the iron bombs for Su-25 and Su-24's.

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    These with tanks

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    FFS, learn to use the edit button.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:11 am

    Interesting analysis of Zastavnyi tg channel:
    https://t.me/zastavnyii/1500
    Ukrainian air targets destroyed by Russian air defense in the NVO zone

    Compared to the data of a report a month ago (08/10/2022), one can observe a change in both the range of shot down ammunition and their quantity.

    In particular, over the past month, the Russian Defense Ministry did not report the interception of a single Smerch MLRS rocket (300 mm). Instead of this rocket projectile, information began to regularly appear in the reports about the interceptions of unguided rockets of the Alder MLRS (300 mm), created on the basis of the Soviet Smerch MLRS.

    This ammunition was developed by the Kyiv Luch Design Bureau in 2016-2018. Its main feature, in comparison with the old Smerch MLRS rockets, is an increase in the maximum firing range from 70 to 100 km. At the end of 2019, the first batch of 100 missiles was delivered to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In subsequent years, before the start of the NMD, the production of missiles did not exceed a few dozen a year.

    Due to the fact that the first mention of the interception of Alder appeared only on 07/27/2022, it can be assumed that the current missile launches can be carried out both from previously formed reserves and from fresh batches of missiles, the production of which was not disrupted by airborne strikes against enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the former Ukraine (in particular, according to KB "Luch").

    Separately, it is worth noting a significant increase in the number of launches of guided missiles by the American M142 HIMARS MLRS. Over the past month (August-September), Russian air defense systems shot down more than 5 times more shells than in the previous similar period (July-August). This circumstance suggests that the enemy has a large number of both HIMARS launchers themselves and ammunition for them.

    The American AGM-88 HARM high-speed anti-radar missile has become a new type of air targets for domestic air defense systems. The relatively small number (14) of downed missiles of this type is due to the complexity of their use by the Air Force of the former Ukraine, caused by an acute shortage of delivery vehicles (MiG-29).

    In general, two main trends can be noted related to the operation of Russian air defense (AD) systems in the zone of the special military operation (SVO):

    1⃣ Monthly increase in the number of destroyed air targets, caused by the increased intensity of shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Which may indicate both the increased skill of air defense calculations, and the increase in the number of air defense systems in the conflict zone.

    Destroyed air targets declared by the RF Ministry of Defense by periods:

    February-July - 646
    July-August - 311
    August-September - 611

    That is, over the past month, air targets of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (611) were humiliated, numerically comparable to all shot down rockets in the first four months of the NMD (646).

    2⃣ An increase in the share of new Western and Ukrainian reactive munitions in the total volume of intercepted air targets. If on August 10, 2022 their number was 8% of all downed missiles and jet UAVs, then on September 13, 2022 their share increased to 34%.

    Arkady Repkin, military observer of the Telegram channel Ꙃstavny, retired colonel, doctor of military sciences, director of the Eurasian Institute for War Problems and Geopolitical Studies.


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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:32 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    Eastern Kharkov is not full of pro-Russians or Russians although it has a fair number of them.
    I'd remind you that this territory did not have an uprising in 2014 or at least not a successful one
    Russia can leave and come back a short time later, so long as it offered people evacuation it's no big deal
    .

    And this is a very valid point that people who don't follow that closely in the Russian coverage find hard to know.
    We have erased that question several times.
    Ukraine has not been zombified for the last 8 years, not 30 years, but for 300 years.
    They have brought problems and misery to both Poland and Russia on a time scale.
    Their "heroes" are - and that is objective - traitors and some of them are multiple traitors.
    They sheer Mazepa as some mythical "ruler of Ukraine in XVIIth century" who "negotiated with tsar on equal, while Mazepa was a Polish noble from a very low reputed family whos members has been publically executed for treason. And a TRIPLE traitor actually Laughing who never run any "Ukraine" as there was not such a thing.
    This is a level of deeducation.
    Those are multiple lies in one story only, and those lies create the backbone of the myths they are fed with.
    Ukraine in the other parts we talk about is hardly pro-Russian. The fact that people speak Russian means perfectly nothing.
    Those who were pro-Russian, have been ethnically cleansed in the last 8 years.
    Some killed, some jailed.
    Giant waves of refugees were flooding into Russia and Europe since 2014, we talk several million people. Even before the Feb24th, there was no barber, no general store, and no beauty salon with no Ukrainian staff, and we talk Poland! The scale of it was even bigger in Russia.
    It is the time to stop the nonsense about "Russkie waiting for liberation", as aside od Donbas and the very south of Ukraine it is just a bullshit.
    The areas of Kiev, Chernichov, Sumy or Charkov are hostile to Russia, and would require enormous assets, including hard force, to resolve the problems.
    That is why - but it is my educated guess only - Russkie feel no sorrow leaving them behind if they ceased to have tactical importance.
    Sure, the people ...
    But they had a chance to evacuate to Russia, and lots of them did so. Belgorod region welcomed thousands of refugees.
    Russia is so huge, that each and any single Russki can have a part of it.

    BTW, today I have watched some footage from Izum showing the destruction Ukrs carried this time, and I saw two things. There was ONE billboard with "We are one nation" campaign, while the south is covered with those. And second, Izum is a dead city. Looks totally abandoned.

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:36 am

    https://iz.ru/1395089/2022-09-14/v-zaporozhe-zaiavili-ob-usilenii-oborony-v-regione-iz-za-stiagivaniia-vsu

    In the Zaporozhye region, it was decided to strengthen the defense against the background of the tightening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) to the front line. On Wednesday, September 14, said a member of the main council of the regional administration Vladimir Rogov.


    Control conclusion: Allied forces thwarted attempts at the VFU offensive
    Ukrainian troops tried to be active near Krasny Liman and Vuhlehirsk
    "Our army is ready to meet and repel Ukrainian militants if they decide to go on the offensive. The line of defense is strengthened. Reserves have been increased," he said in an interview with RIA Novosti.


    So there were re-enforcements sent but i guess no numbers given?
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:41 am

    thegopnik wrote:Napoleon sent a huge mass of soldiers to russia they all died from the weather and scorch earth tactics.
    Hitler sent a huge mass of soldiers to russia they all died from the weather and scorch earth tactics.
    Zelensky sent a huge mass of soldiers of 40K+ soldiers all of a sudden the charges have reached a halt meaning their momentum has stopped, with electric and gas out with this war dragging we will see Ukraines response later.
    It may look like Napoleon, Hitler and Zelensky were winning, but my faith sort of became restored when the huge offensives came to a grinding halt so far which now depends if Ukraine wants to send more bodies.

    And that my friend is just another propaganda bullshit created for one purpose only.

    It was not the Russkie who beat us, but the General Winter!

    Because, imagine yourself, General Winter affected only the French and Germans.
    Oh, and Italians.
    And Romanians.
    And Bulgarians.
    And Slovaks.
    And Finns.
    And Croats.
    And the Netherlanders.
    And Dunes.
    And Norwegians.

    Every single bloody nation throw there!
    Only not Russkie.
    They didn't freeze to death.
    They didn't have the problems with food, fuel, lubricants.
    Their cars didn't need accumulators!
    Either tanks!
    And SPG - oh, the SPG were notorious for not needing accumulators, lubricants, fuel, they just drove & shoot using snow&mud.
    It was all the General Winter fault, as Russkie Untermaenschen could not defeat the Arian elite, oh no!
    It was like that, 100%!
    I wouldn't lie to you, would I?!?

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