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    Post  thegopnik Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:56 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    thegopnik wrote:Napoleon sent a huge mass of soldiers to russia they all died from the weather and scorch earth tactics.
    Hitler sent a huge mass of soldiers to russia they all died from the weather and scorch earth tactics.
    Zelensky sent a huge mass of soldiers of 40K+ soldiers all of a sudden the charges have reached a halt meaning their momentum has stopped, with electric and gas out with this war dragging we will see Ukraines response later.
    It may look like Napoleon, Hitler and Zelensky were winning, but my faith sort of became restored when the huge offensives came to a grinding halt so far which now depends if Ukraine wants to send more bodies.

    And that my friend is just another propaganda bullshit created for one purpose only.

    It was not the Russkie who beat us, but the General Winter!

    Because, imagine yourself, General Winter affected only the French and Germans.
    Oh, and Italians.
    And Romanians.
    And Bulgarians.
    And Slovaks.
    And Finns.
    And Croats.
    And the Netherlanders.
    And Dunes.
    And Norwegians.

    Every single bloody nation throw there!
    Only not Russkie.
    They didn't freeze to death.
    They didn't have the problems with food, fuel, lubricants.
    Their cars didn't need accumulators!
    Either tanks!
    And SPG - oh, the SPG were notorious for not needing accumulators, lubricants, fuel, they just drove & shoot using snow&mud.
    It was all the General Winter fault, as Russkie Untermaenschen could not defeat the Arian elite, oh no!
    It was like that, 100%!
    I wouldn't lie to you, would I?!?

    Fighting Khazars, Fighting mongols, fighting the polish-lithuanian common wealth and only reason they got to moscow was because russians had a civil war, fighting swedes, fighting ottomans, fighting finnish in winter war, fight french, have a white vs red army or civil war, famine, fight germany multiple times, fight afghans being supplied by U.S, fight in syria,  fight entire NATO with a proxy called ukraine. Its like there is no greater tragedy than being born a Russian.

    I hope they have the ukraine problem resolved soon with minimum amount of lives without any nuclear weapons getting closer to their border.

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    Post  Erk Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:08 am

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    I hope they have the ukraine problem resolved soon with minimum amount of lives without any nuclear weapons getting closer to their border.


    It wont be, the Ukrainian people have been exposed to decades of US psyops to turn them against Russia.
    Even with a regime change, that damage has been done.

    You might want to watch Michael Hudson talking about US anti-democratic foreign policy.

    This is part 2 of his 3 part lecture series on how the US expands it's financial empire.
    Ukraine is a small part of a bigger strategy. They want to take down EU industry, and break up the Russian Federation.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:10 am

    Erk wrote:They want to take down EU industry, and break up the Russian Federation.


    And while Russia is perfectly aware of, the EU seems on the unbeliever side.

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    Post  Erk Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:32 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    Erk wrote:They want to take down EU industry, and break up the Russian Federation.


    And while Russia is perfectly aware of, the EU seems on the unbeliever side.

    That's because the EU leaders, over time, have been bought and paid for.
    Campaign donations are a powerful tool to get who you want into positions of power.
    Zelensky is a perfect example.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:21 am

    That is very much like that.
    It is a reason why Europe ceased to be able to any constructive cooperation.
    And that is why Ukraine should be landlocked and turned into poverty with some 15mln of inhabitants, to stop ceasing any serious problems.
    The bigger shithole it will be after the operation, the lower the chance that Poland will be pushed to incorporate any parts of this crap.
    That would mean a need for intense strikes in the whole of western Ukraine, to physically destroy all the infrastructure they have there.
    All the industry that is left.
    Canals, dams, electric grid and power plants - the price of the reconstruction as a target value factor.
    Just bomb it back to the XVIIth century, let them cheer the golden days of uprisings, riots, and "kozacha svoboda". Let them perform maidans, weekly basis. Slide down into absolute anarchy. As they are used to.
    Is Russia psychologically capable of such a cynical approach? dunno

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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:07 am

    The last attack on infrastructure in Ukraine on September 11 was just a propaganda effort. Later, the firing was much weaker, limited only to Kharkiv. Russia has the ability to destroy infrastructure in Western Ukraine, etc. They would have to do it intensively and often to produce results.
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    Post  Mir Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:18 am

    Arrow wrote:The last attack on infrastructure in Ukraine on September 11 was just a propaganda effort. Later, the firing was much weaker, limited only to Kharkiv. Russia has the ability to destroy infrastructure in Western Ukraine, etc. They would have to do it intensively and often to produce results.

    They can easily do that if they want to. Its aimed more at disruption than destruction. Working on the nervous system like the Night Witches did can produce excellent results in the minds of the enemy. Twisted Evil

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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:25 am

    They can easily do that if they want to wrote: wrote:

    I know they can make. This is  a political decision. After all, they have a lot of USSR-era missiles that they can strike in Ukraine. For example, kh 22, which was used by many modern means, such as kh 555 or Calibers, which are still in production.
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    Post  Mir Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:31 am

    Let us remind ourselves who is winning "The War" >>

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24 - Page 26 X-uah-10

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24 - Page 26 X-rub-10

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:48 am

    Mir wrote:Let us remind ourselves who is winning "The War" >>

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24 - Page 26 X-uah-10

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    Quoting this chart in Ukro context is useless.
    Poland stopped to exchange hryvna a few days ago.
    It is not worth the paper they print it on.
    The country is in default, next year's budget has a 50% deficit that will be financed by the sugar daddies - of course in the Ukro wet dreams.
    Who will give them a penny when the riots will start in cold Europe, a Santa Claus perhaps?

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    Post  lancelot Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:54 am

    The value of the UAH is pure BS. You can tell it just by looking at the chart. Straight lines.
    Purely artificial value.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:06 pm

    So did the Russians continue strike in Ukrainian infrastructure ?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:08 pm

    lancelot wrote:The value of the UAH is pure BS. You can tell it just by looking at the chart. Straight lines.
    Purely artificial value.

    Absolute truth. What sort of congenital inbred could possibly believe that Ukropi toilet paper could hold its value without decline following Feb 28? Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

    Actually, I'll correct myself. Its inaccurate to liken the hryvnia to toilet paper, as the shit smeared upon it is worth more than the note. Twisted Evil

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    Post  kvs Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:32 pm

    OT:

    1) Napoleon's fail was in the early September at Borodino. Wikicrapia can claim it was a win all that it wants.

    2) Napoleon's army fed itself by rape and pillage. There were no logistics lines going back to France to supply
    croissants.

    3) General Winter kicked Napoleon's "Grand Arme"'s ass on the way out.

    Russia did not throw human waves at Napoleon and kill their own peasants. The retarded excuse that it was
    those ebil Rosshians with their "scorched Earth tactics" is pure BS. All western fuckwits and their sycophants
    who keep invoking this excuse together with General Winter are totally full of shit. Poor Napoleon, he didn't
    win because the Rosshians burned Moscow. Stop and engage what few brain cells you have to and think over
    that claim. The Rosshians are bad because they did not surrender to Napoleon once he "took" the capital.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:40 pm

    kvs wrote:
    2) Napoleon's army fed itself by rape and pillage.   There were no logistics lines going back to France to supply
    croissants.

    Oh sure they were not, as they didn't need them.
    That is why Napoleon established hell of operetta "kingdoms" in the entire Europe.
    Thoe were tasked for supplying the Napoleon's army.
    The most grotesque form of it, was the Duchy of Warsaw. A fully subordinated vassal state, ruled directly by decrees delivered from France. Tasked for constant delivery of cannon fodder, supplies, and Maria Zalewska, because The Little Corporal liked to fuc*k.
    Not that they have not pillaged and raped the whole of Europe, because sure they did Laughing
    Wellingtons army was not better, considering that they raped and pillaged allied Spain Laughing Laughing

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    Post  crod Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:50 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:So did the Russians continue strike in Ukrainian infrastructure ?

    No, but it did have a perfect opportunity to photo bomb today…

    https://t.me/rybar/38754
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    Post  Mir Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:07 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:

    Actually, I'll correct myself.  Its inaccurate to liken the hryvnia to toilet paper, as the shit smeared upon it is worth more than the note. Twisted Evil

    Toilet paper is already a scares and sought after commodity in Europe Smile

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:09 pm

    Mir wrote:
    Toilet paper is already a scares and sought after commodity in Europe Smile

    Toilet paper in a heated toilet will be a delicacy soon.

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    Post  Erk Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:18 pm

    There is 4 pages of a leaked report from the RAND corporation (think tank) getting around from January explaining that conflict between Germany and Russia is required to cut off Russian gas and take down the EU. It's quite a good read. "Weakening Germany, strengthening the U.S."

    https://redpill78.substack.com/p/newly-leaked-report-from-rand-corporation?r=fu5rq&s=r

    Shows how well planned these conflict events really are.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:20 pm


    Zelensky in Izium
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    Post  Stealthflanker Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:28 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    Zelensky in Izium
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    Yeah. and due to some goodwill nothing really happens.

    There is a philosophy behind "look weak while you are strong" But. How far actually Russians have to take that concept. Doesnt have to hit Zelensky but few hundreds meter around it would be fine.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:34 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Mir wrote:
    Toilet paper is already a scares and sought after commodity in Europe Smile

    Toilet paper in a heated toilet will be a delicacy soon.

    I think you mean "luxury" rather than "delicacy".

    Well... at least I hope that's what you mean... Laughing

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    Post  crod Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:35 pm

    Well belgorod is under fire from shelling with troops border clashes being reported. This is becoming silly imo.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:38 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    Zelensky in Izium
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    Keep the place neat and tidy, and no painting stuff in those idiotic Swedish colours.  We'll be back soon and we want it the way we left it. Twisted Evil

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    Post  Hole Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:40 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Arrow wrote:
    Zelensky in Izium
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    Yeah. and due to some goodwill nothing really happens.

    There is a philosophy behind "look weak while you are strong" But. How far actually Russians have to take that concept. Doesnt have to hit Zelensky but few hundreds meter around it would be fine.  
    Who is that guy?  scratch

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