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    Post  lyle6 Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:56 pm

    If it was the Russians they would have repaired more than half of those vehicles back into service.

    No wonder the Ukrainians are losing this war. They would rather parade much needed war material as symbols and signals instead. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  limb Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:13 pm

    lyle6 wrote:If it was the Russians they would have repaired more than half of those vehicles back into service.

    No wonder the Ukrainians are losing this war. They would rather parade much needed war material as symbols and signals instead. Rolling Eyes

    Bruh, russians are doing the same thing in the army2022 expo, except they only have a single towed howitzer to flex. Not even the mythical captured caesars or pzh 2000

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    Post  PhSt Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:22 pm

    limb wrote:Bruh, russians are doing the same thing in the army2022 expo, except they only have a single towed howitzer to flex. Not even the mythical captured caesars or pzh 2000

    Yes, exhibiting a single towed howitzer is proof that Ukro NATzOs are about to encircle Moscow Laughing Tell us more about the mythical Ghost of Kyuyiv or the much awaited Kherson offensive Laughing Laughing

    All you NATzO propaganda peddlers do is make doom and gloom suggestions about Russia and then exaggerate your own manufactured fantasies.

    And so what if NATzO is successful in blowing up the Zaporizhzhya npp? Next that will follow is a nuclear war, Are you afraid to DIE?? If so then you're a coward. Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Firebird Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:26 pm

    limb wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:Should start playing this on western TV channels  lol!


    This is so cringe. It sounds like its trying to appeal to boomer MAGA sexpats. Replace Russia with Thailand in the video and it would make the same sense.

    Also ballet? Seriously? This was conjured up by some 60yo+ fossil.

    Well I live in England, and its not as extremist Neoliberal Woke-fag as America.
    However England has become an absolute joke.
    It will soon be 40% the worst immigrant rubbish from the 3rd world -Islamic states etc.
    Freedom of speech? Not with "cancel culture", "Wokism" and Facebook controlling everything.
    Democracy? One bunch of upper class wankers or another. The next 2 goons for PM are funded by Bill Gates or an Indian multibillionaire father-in-law who owns Wipro.
    The opposition "LAbour" leader is reviled because he BANNED the last Labour leader,and opposed Brexit because he is clearly a puppet of the international Globalist gang.


    Faggotry and even tranny-ism mercilessly promoted to little kids as young as 2 and 3!
    Economically the place is becoming a sweatshop for most. Major corporations seem to be taking over EVERYTHING.
    It seems the trash that is GM food is not far away.
    People regularly wait 40 hrs for an "emergency" ambulance.
    Taxes are often 50% vs 15% in Russia.
    State healthcare is a joke.
    Garbage countries used to be way behind Britain economically, now they are catching up.
    Few young people can afford their own homes.
    The place is as social class/caste regimented as pretty much any country on Earth.
    (Power positions are dominated by around old boys/girls of around 8 high schools, no matter how talented you are if u are from other schools).
    Energy and food prices are so sky high even the middle class are struggling.
    Few young white people can afford to reproduce, such is the efffect of 3rd world immigration depressing wages. (Many people's wages have gone down 50% or more in recent times) thats to Indians, Africans, Pakistanis and Poles etc


    And ballet? Well I'd rather my daughters/gf did something feminne than the grotesque  British dykes who do football, boxing and rugby.

    Britain is rapidly becoming an absolute joke.
    Russia is of interest to me because I am of half Russian blood.
    But it would be of interest to many British citizens who aren't remotely Russian.


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    Post  lyle6 Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:28 pm

    limb wrote:
    Bruh, russians are doing the same thing in the army2022 expo, except they only have a single towed howitzer to flex. Not even the mythical captured caesars or pzh 2000

    Entirely different situation. The Russians have so much towed guns they don't know what to do with them. 1 or a dozen guns on the exhibition is nothing. They probably consume dozens of guns per week from barrel wear alone.

    The Ukrainians have exactly the opposite problem. They don't or rather, no longer have enough for their needs, let alone bullshit PR stunts.


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    Post  RTN Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:29 pm

    flamming_python wrote:This ad is geared towards white middle-class American men from 30-50 who have some skills to bring, desire a calmer lifestyle than what they currently have stateside, and are not afraid of learning a language. That's a big market.
    The immigration process [in Russia] is extremely excruciating.

    I see that the video mentions "no cancel culture" featuring two women of color. Reality is foreigners from third world countries have to face close to 7-8 hours of interrogation at Sheremetyevo and quite a few of them are deported despite this intense grilling. Not to forget that those who eventually do get to enter are stopped and frisked by local police across Moscow, St Pete and other cities.

    If you happen to be a White guy from the States you will be followed by some homeland security guys where ever you go.

    If the U.S Embassy were to release a similar video titled "Come to the USA" half of Russia would be empty by now. Already 3 million Russians live here in the US and the number is growing every year. This stands testimony to the fact that life in the US is in orders of magnitude better than it is in Russia.

    Small business exists in Russia and a monthly protection money is collected regularly. However as soon as you hit a decent turnover you need serious protection , which is the domain of Government. And if the turnover really exceeds say $10Mill, the local government will place an investor/partner on your board whether you want one or not.

    ALAMO wrote: Pakistan applied for BRICS, still, it was denied by both India and ... China, with the Russian sustain.
    Why will China object when Pakistan is an ally of China?


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    Post  PhSt Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:40 pm

    Remember The Nutsack wrote:If the U.S Embassy were to release a similar video titled "Come to the USA" half of Russia would be empty by now. Already 3 million Russians live here in the US and the number is growing every year.

    Make it happen or its all Bullocks  Laughing  but this coming from you is no surprise. I say just keep dreaming  Twisted Evil


    Remember The Nutsack wrote:This stands testimony to the fact that life in the US is in orders of magnitude better than it is in Russia.

    You have a great potential in writing fiction novels I see. Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:52 pm

    lyle6 wrote:

    Entirely different situation. The Russians have so much towed guns they don't know what to do with them. 1 or a dozen guns on the exhibition is nothing. They probably consume dozens of guns per week from barrel wear alone.

    Not at all, because they have a living military industry tasked to produce hundreds of pieces if asked and paid.
    And they have been both.
    They are producing barrels "like sausages" Laughing and those worn pieces are steadily refurbished.
    To make a proper perspective, PzH2000 was a substantial success of the KMW export, bringing about 350 pcs in the 30 years.
    It is not in production anymore. Just "can be delivered on request" status.
    MSTS was made in some 1200 pcs, and is being produced at the very moment.
    Assisted by a Hiacynt-S, that was made in about 2000 pcs Laughing
    And both have the towed versions, made in bigger numbers.
    While still having in line/storage MORE THAN 3000 pcs of 2S3 Akatsya Laughing
    The stocked 2S7 does not disappear from the storage bases because melted, but all of those were heading the repair facilities, and refurbished/modernize to Malka status.
    It is 2S5 that is particularly interesting because that is quite an unusual piece. While being 152mm caliber, it's charges are taken directly from a 203mm 2S7. That makes it the longest-range conventional ammo artillery piece well into the 80s.
    I will bet rubles to peanuts, that very soon we will see a next gen of artillery rounds for all the pieces Russkie are using, and not only Malka will reach 70 km, but 2S5 as well, or even more - the charge is very powerful, the barrel is long, and the gun is very robust&solid. With a lighter round of 152mm propelled with 203 mm charges, it must have the potential to reach further than 203 mm round.

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    Post  Ned86 Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:01 pm

    limb wrote:
    Bruh, russians are doing the same thing in the army2022 expo, except they only have a single towed howitzer to flex. Not even the mythical captured caesars or pzh 2000
    Not true...Russians showed much more than one single howitzer.

    You have all, from antitank missiles (Jevelins), armored vehicles, Boats....even captured UAV (Bayraktar).


    Main difference is that Ukraine showed destroyed "Russian" equipment which with high probability could be destroyed Ukrainian equipment.
    Msta, T-80, T-72 they are all soviet made weapons which was in service with Ukrainian army.
    You can see V and Z only on few most modern BMD-4 displayed.
    If this is true, then where are T-80BVM and T-90M and etc..???

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    Post  PhSt Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:01 pm



    Russia says that Against the backdrop of military defeats in the Donbass and other regions, “the Zelensky regime authorized terrorist acts using chemical poisons against Russian military personnel and civilians.”

    The report states:

    ◽ July 31 this year Russian servicemen who performed tasks in the area of     the village of Vasilyevka, Zaporozhye region, were taken to a military hospital with signs of severe poisoning. As a result of the survey, a poisonous substance, botulinum toxin type "B", was found in the body of military personnel.

    ◽ In order to establish the causes of poisoning, specialists from the Main Research and Testing Institute of Military Medicine of the Russian Ministry of Defense (St. Petersburg) conducted an additional analysis that unambiguously confirmed the presence of an organic poison of artificial origin - botulinum toxin type "B".

    ◽Currently, on the fact of chemical terrorism sanctioned by the Zelensky regime, the Russian Federation is preparing supporting documents with the results of all the analyzes carried out.

    ◽Evidence of chemical terrorism of the Kyiv regime will soon be officially sent to the OPCW through the permanent mission of Russia.

    ◽ Taking into account the received evidence of state terrorism of the Kyiv regime, an additional investigation is currently being carried out on the poisoning of the head of the provisional administration of the Kherson region V. Saldo with chemical warfare agents.


    https://t.me/asbmil/4191


    NATzO is becoming more desperate russia

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:15 pm

    RTN wrote:This stands testimony to the fact that life in the US is in orders of magnitude better than it is in Russia.

    Moscow’s subway:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 6 Image-10

    Subway system in the United States:
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    UN names Moscow best world city to live in
    The Russian capital beat out major European and North American rivals to claim the top spot
    https://www.rt.com/russia/548199-un-named-moscow-best-city/

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:02 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    The Russian capital beat out major European and North American rivals to claim the top spot
    /

    Yeah, and then they put another marker called "LGBT rights" to make it 2nd or 3rd position, can't remember now Laughing
    And the "winner" was ... Singapore Laughing
    A Chinese breed autocracy with draconian punishments for any single disobedience, full-scale economic slavery, and caste society.
    Laughing Laughing

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:02 pm

    RTN wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:This ad is geared towards white middle-class American men from 30-50 who have some skills to bring, desire a calmer lifestyle than what they currently have stateside, and are not afraid of learning a language. That's a big market.
    The immigration process [in Russia] is extremely excruciating.

    I see that the video mentions "no cancel culture" featuring two women of color. Reality is foreigners from third world countries have to face close to 7-8 hours of interrogation at Sheremetyevo and quite a few of them are deported despite this intense grilling. Not to forget that those who eventually do get to enter are stopped and frisked by local police across Moscow, St Pete and other cities.

    If you happen to be a White guy from the States you will be followed by some homeland security guys where ever you go.
    Bold quote alone, shows that you don't know shit about Russia and that you are an complete idiot. I don't even want to go further in debunking your bs.

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:03 pm

    It is a waste of time to discuss the reality of modern Russia and even the US with these trolls. They spout off talking points straight
    of the 1980s. You have to be brain damaged or diseased to keep ignoring reality to the point of becoming detached from it. All
    of this troll feeding is OT for this thread. Sorry for my OT as well.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:06 pm

    He is a complete idiot, still can't believe that you all fall the same trap Laughing
    I have watched him multiple times making copy&past whole chapters from other sources with not a single quoting.
    He is incapable of creating a 5 words long sequence Laughing so each time he writes some complex ones, just copy it to Google and see where he stole it from Laughing

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    Post  Mir Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:10 pm

    Ned86 wrote:

    Just look at the headline for that video Laughing

    "Russia shows off stolen Ukrainian weapons..." What a Face

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    Post  Firebird Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:11 pm

    RTN wrote:[ This stands testimony to the fact that life in the US is in orders of magnitude better than it is in Russia.

    Yeah the West is better than Russia if:-

    a)You want your sons to be crossdressers who get bummed by men. (the whole West)
    b)Want your daughters to become crewcut headed lezzers who do boxing and football.
    c)Want to be jailed for calling your tranny excuse for a son ... a "son" (Scotland)
    d)Want to work on half your salary of 20 yrs ago, for a bunch radical Islamists who will be allowed to molest your daughters under local govt protection (100s of towns around Britain).
    e)Want to be compulsively force fed carcinogenic GM foods without even being told (USA and soon Europe)
    f)Work til you literally die because the 3rd world immigrant trash and heriditary upper class have bankrupted the state financial system (Britain).

    20-30 yrs ago, the US was far better than E Europe for around 30% of the population.
    NOw the USA is an absolute disaster zone culturally, socially, politically AND economically.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:11 pm

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:12 pm

    Mir wrote:

    "Russia shows off stolen Ukrainian weapons..." What a Face

    Yeah, that brought my attention either Laughing
    Words are gold!

    Firebird wrote:
    20-30 yrs ago, the US was far better than E Europe for around 30% of the population.
    NOw the USA is an absolute disaster zone culturally, socially, politically AND economically.

    The last gold from my own yard.
    A US-based customer, who cries that he needs to cancel the order, as he just runs out of ANY cash because he had a tooth extraction, has no medical insurance Shocked and that deprived him of WHOLE savings he had, leaving him even more crushed as his gas heater needs a repair before WINTER, and that will cost $500 and he won't be able to collect that before the heating season Shocked Shocked Shocked
    Welcome to the Murica, motherfu*ckers Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  VARGR198 Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:23 pm

    limb wrote:https://twitter.com/zaklyashtor/status/1560899060445462529?t=ljU-44L0IPBElb-n1-xQeA&s=19

    Around 5-7  destroyed mstas, plus over 15 captured or destroyed Russian tanks put on display in kiev. This reminds me of the captured tanks displayed in Prague. How the hell did the Ukrainians manage to destroy and capture many SPGs? The russians haven't captured a single pzh2000, dana, krab or caesar. if the Ukrainians can ploink and capture over a dozen(that we know of) russian SPGs, then russians are far worse at counterbattery fire against SPGs. This is pathetic. The russians gloat for weeks about achieving near misses against 3 M109s, to the point of labeling M109s as pzh2000, plus showing 144px vids of random unidentifiable crap getting bombarded,  while Ukrainians are showing loads of destroyed Mstas in HD.
    This video shows that Russian tank losses are probably over 300, jydging by the ratio between photographed destroyed equipment and actual destroyed equipment.


    Some of those tanks look more Ukrainian than Russian based on the armor on the sides.

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    Post  Mir Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:36 pm

    It does look like knocked out Russian stuff, but there are T-80UD's in there that perhaps could be of Ukrainian origin.

    Just a bit further down "Ukraine Defense" posted this on twatter Laughing Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:39 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:

    It is not an expired shell.
    It is a flooded one, most probably.
    There was a serious flood in both Romania and Bulgaria in 2014, so that is my first thought.
    It affected Varna - there was big ammo storage there.

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    Post  VARGR198 Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:41 pm


    It is not an expired shell.
    It is a flooded one, most probably.
    There was a serious flood in both Romania and Bulgaria in 2014, so that is my first thought.
    It affected Varna - there was big ammo storage there.
    Probably just convient to use Ukraine as a dumping ground. Can claim they sent munitions, but also get rid of the ruined stuff without having to dispose of them themselves.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:43 pm

    But of course it is, ex-GDR Strela MANPADS are the very first&bright example.
    Holly shit, they have taken those from the shelter dressed in full-time chemproof costumes Laughing Laughing

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