Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21

A Ukrainian BMP-1 following an artillery strike, along with its passengers and crew who were thrown from the vehicle.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16539?single
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16540?single

Polish T-72s in service in the LPR

The fighters of the republic use captured tanks and weapons “kindly provided by the Poles”, which the Ukrainian fighters abandon during the retreat. After repairs, they are ready to return to battle again.
https://t.me/intelslava/34244

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

RTN wrote:Russia’s use of air-launched anti-ship missiles with only and limited secondary land-attack capability to attempt to strike Ukrainian targets suggests its dedicated land-attack cruise missile inventory is running low.

No it doesn't, it suggests that it's doing the same thing as in Syria - testing out its inventory under different conditions and against different targets

If it was running low of missiles it would launch less of them and rely more on airstrikes

Certain western correspondents present in Nikolaev are on record saying that the Russians struck the Nikolaev area alone with some 130 cruise missiles over the past two weeks, and that their accuracy was scary (hitting supposedly 'secret' arms warehouses, troop quarters etc, suggesting that the Russians possess a lot of insider intel).

So no, they're not running out of them, and no, they are not being inaccurate. Kiev claims otherwise, always, but that's another thing. Usually Kiev says that some blind children's orphanage was hit (deliberately, of course, too) and most western media parrots it without a second thought, but a couple of days later stuff starts trickling in about Ukrainian military people who by sheer coincidence just happened to have died at the exact same time at the exact same location. Hm, eh?

It rapidly looks quite bizarre, all of it, but yeah - see my earlier comments on how western media typically operates.

And Kiev is replying to the accurate destruction of their military assets by firing butterfly mine-carrying rockets (PFM-1 anti-personnel mines, using Uragan MLRS) at civilian Donetsk again. Not a military target, just terrorizing Ukrainian civilians who don't like Kiev.

Just let it sink in, the entire "collective west" supports these morons.

Sappers are working in Donetsk

https://t.me/mapsukraine/1170

They claim this person has done the castration but let put some facts on the table:

* Hats are of different color and not exactly the same

* Different boots / shoes

* Different clothing / camo

* This vid comes from Severodonetk liberation ( 1.5 months ago)

* In the castration video we cannot see any indication that it was an 'asian' person doing it.

* The only evidence is that hat, but this hat can be bought on aliexpress... Everyone has acces to it.

* What probably happened is the following, in Ukrainian media there is a huge emphasis on 'Buryats' as being the evil orcs that Putin is using against Ukrainians. They probably saw this guy on the video of Russian channels and ordered themselves a hat from Aliexpress of the same style and put this act together. To further blame the buryats as they've done the same in Bucha (which was all a lie).

Not sure if this has been confirmed in other sources

NATO is really squeezing blood from a stone at this point; T-72As from Macedonia lol

https://t.me/mapsukraine/1160

North Macedonia delivered T-72A tanks to Ukraine

The Ministry of Defense of North Macedonia has confirmed the transfer of 31 T-72A tanks to the troops of the Kiev regime. The cars have already been sent to Ukraine.

Thus, North Macedonia handed over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine all of its existing T-72s.

https://t.me/vicktop55/5356

Message from June 5, Nezygar: Mi 6 is considering three possible options for the use of MLRS HIMARS supplied to Ukraine.
The delivery itself will take place on the night from Sunday to Monday, the cargo has already arrived at Rzeszow Airport.  They will execute all the Armed Forces of Ukraine under the full control of the officers of the British Ministry of Defense, as was the case with the attack on the cruiser Moscow.
The first target is the Crimean bridge, but this is the most unlikely operation, since Crimea is closed by echeloned S 400 systems and a number of new air defense systems, and then the newest S 500 division.
The second goal is a prisoner of war camp in the village of Yelenovka, where the Nazis from Azovstal and the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are located.
The British want to frame the MLRS strike as an attempt by the Russian Armed Forces to hide "the execution and torture of prisoners, and then hype Bucha's temnik."  The third target is Sevastopol, the center of the city or the base of the Black Sea Fleet is being discussed, but there is a risk of falling into the air defense coverage area on Zmeiny Island, since the range of the MLRS set now will be enough only when launched from the Odessa region.
Kyiv is not yet considering a missile attack on Kursk or Belgorod, since the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has an understanding that the price of this strike will be the destruction of the government quarter
https://t.me/russica2/46486

Hole wrote:
Sappers are working in Donetsk

Ukrainians dumped anti-personnel mines into central Donetsk, a car has already run into one. Dunno how, usually cassettes of these have to be delivered via airpower

https://t.me/vicktop55/5372

flamming_python wrote:

Hole wrote:
Sappers are working in Donetsk

Ukrainians dumped anti-personnel mines into central Donetsk, a car has already run into one. Dunno how, usually cassettes of these have to be delivered via airpower

https://t.me/vicktop55/5372

As I said, Uragan works fine.
https://missilery.info/missile/uraga/9m27k3

And it's not the first time:
https://topwar.ru/199344-ukrainskij-terror-minami-pfm-1-lepestok.html

flamming_python wrote:

Hole wrote:
Sappers are working in Donetsk

Ukrainians dumped anti-personnel mines into central Donetsk, a car has already run into one. Dunno how, usually cassettes of these have to be delivered via airpower

https://t.me/vicktop55/5372

Footage from the centre of Donetsk which was attacked by Ukrainian forces who deployed PFM-1 AP mines. A T-72B Mod. 1985 demines the road by running over the mines.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16567

T-72B3 UBH and a T-80BV headed towards the Bakhmut line to show some Ukrops what for.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16561

kvs wrote:When NATzO forces run down their stocks of expiring weapons (e.g. by sending them to Ukria) it is called being smart.
But when Russia does the same, it is called Russia running out of weapons.   Tiresome to listen to this drivel.   Russia should
use every freaking missile rotting in storage that it has.   All such equipment has a shelf life.   Maybe a bar of gold can sit
on a shelf until the shelf and the building crumble away and the continents rearrange themselves and until the Earth is
swallowed by our Sun in its red giant phase.

I don't get the idea to react for some wet ejaculation of obvious troll
Both Soviet and Russian-made weaponry proved outstanding versatility in this conflict.
They use an array of weapons, depending on a target structure, hardness, distance, etc.
Calling an ASM "secondary" weapon proves a lack of knowledge only.
It is a HE warhead with substantial weight, with some incendiary elements in mind. A perfect weapon of choice, for low demanding targets.

The true point is, that Russkies proved a force factor multiplier. They can use any weapon system they will find suitable.
All of them proved to be deadly, and universal, and the scariest factor is that they have thousands of those in storage.
And hundreds of those in regular production lines.

Those bloody bastards released more precision-guided missiles in 4 months than "mighty US" in all the conflicts they have started in the last 30 years.
Combined.
Sure that the opponent was more serious than all the US faced combined either    

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
Off topic, but... Do ship carried anti-aircraft missiles have a secondary anti-ship capability?

Most of them do.
Even low-level missiles like Igla etc can be used against ground/sea targets, as only they can get a lock on. My lads trolled the buddies locking on a men in field with Grom.
Shtorm system was built with ASM role in mind, and with a 120+ kg warhead it was a better ship killer than half of dedicated NATO systems of the time
Same applies to Volna and Rif.

flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/mapsukraine/1170


* What probably happened is the following, in Ukrainian media there is a huge emphasis on 'Buryats' as being the evil orcs that Putin is using against Ukrainians. They probably saw this guy on the video of Russian channels and ordered themselves a hat from Aliexpress of the same style and put this act together. To further blame the buryats as they've done the same in Bucha (which was all a lie).

Nazis showing their nazism. Maybe Chechens can be considered "notorious", but Buryats? If Russia had blacks in its army, then we would have bitching about blacks.
But maybe not since that would go against NATzO narratives a tad too much.

Maybe someone should remind them, that they are Buddhists

Totally random BTW, but the DNR flag just screams "freedom from oppression, finally" to me whenever I see it now. Like, even if it's just on some car number plate or whatever.



Whatever the case, and whatever anyone thinks of all of this, I decided to go down there to try to help everyday people that had their lives fucked up by this all. Awaiting a green light from the authorities (it's tricky).

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Whatever the case, and whatever anyone thinks of all of this, I decided to go down there to try to help everyday people that had their lives fucked up by this all. Awaiting a green light from the authorities (it's tricky).

Stay safe and take precautions. I don't think you need me to tell you that it's not safe to go there no matter in whatever capacity.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:...Whatever the case, and whatever anyone thinks of all of this, I decided to go down there to try to help everyday people that had their lives fucked up by this all. Awaiting a green light from the authorities (it's tricky).

Watch yourself and remember: real war is nothing like how it looks on TV or Internet, it's dead serious business

Auschwitz II?

https://www.rt.com/russia/559916-evacuation-mandatory-donetsk-heating/

Kiev has ordered mandatory evacuations from the parts of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) that remain under the control of Ukrainian forces. Deputy Prime Minister Irina Vereshchuk explained on Saturday the decision by saying that it would be impossible to provide the region’s residents with heating in the cold months.

PhSt wrote:https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16631

The headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet was attacked, presumably using a drone.

Five people were injured and a state of emergency has been declared.

If true, this is unacceptable. Russia needs to drop some FOABS to make a clear statement to the Ukro Nazis

Best defence against such attacks should be disproportionate retaliation.

Ukraine's National Security council has included Chairman of India's National Security advisory board in the list of people promoting Russian propaganda.

https://thewire.in/world/ukraine-accuses-three-indians-of-russian-propaganda

Looks like Colonel Summer is determined to get a medal like General Winter did last year. It looks increasingly likely that all barge traffic will have to stop, as it did in 2018.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/rhine-levels-germany-forecast-drop-lower-barges-reduce-cargo

Who gives you such third rated information? There is no big deal in modifying an AShM into a land attack cruise missile. A secondary feature of almost all Russian & NATO AShM is land attack capability. Just the midcourse navigation has to be changed.

Each missile is different... land attack cruise missiles often have sophisticated navigation systems to allow them to fly paths through terrain and to bypass known air defence locations or major radar sites of the enemy, or to fly down narrow mountain valleys to hide from ground based radar and to approach the target from an unexpected direction... this is much easier for a land attack missile because there are various natural land based waypoints like forks in rivers and roads that can be used to verify the missiles current position which would be totally useless in open ocean.

You are correct in the sense that some large anti ship missiles can be used against ground targets, like the Indian use of IR guided Russian SS-N-2 missiles against Pakistani Oil storage tanks in the evening after being heated by the sun all day they remained good IR targets after the sun went down.

Equally large buildings and bridges can also be hit by radar guided anti ship missiles simply because their large radars can discern large buildings and large bridges in specific locations, but the work on the Brahmos went a bit further and included a vertical dive from altitude to make interception rather difficult too.

The guidance and targeting systems were modified and improved to allow proper use against ground based targets of all types including targets with nothing sticking up above the ground including munitions bunkers and HQs and Comms centres.

Their anti ship missiles were already vastly more capable than western missiles with their ability to operate in a group and to work as a team totally autonomously during an attack.... to look at the radar picture of the target area and determine what targets are visible and based on the number of missiles that happened to be in the pack to allocate missiles to targets based on their identity, so maybe three missiles for a carrier and two for each AEGIS cruiser and one for everything else as an example depending on how many ships are detected in the group and how many missiles are attacking at the time.

Each star is for a successful strike on target.

Each star is an attack, but the number in the star is missiles launched?

3, 3, 3, 4, 7, 3, 8, 8, 5, 6.

Off topic, but... Do ship carried anti-aircraft missiles have a secondary anti-ship capability?

Most of their heavier missiles certainly have surface to surface capacity, S-300, Buk, TOR, Pantsir, as well as older missiles can be used against surface targets and are reportedly very accurate... not just Soviet and Russian missiles... the US Navy used to boast that its Standard SAMs could be used as supersonic anti ship missiles if needed, and most heavy SAMs on both sides can use nuclear warheads either to deal with large groups of aircraft or very large surface targets that a HE warhead would not inflict enough damage on to stop.

Obviously if they are pushing AEGIS Ashore they will stop mentioning the very very long range SM-6 can be fitted with a nuclear warhead for use against ground targets and that of course the normal SM-2ER missiles could also be used in the same capacity in addition to being able to carry tomahawk cruise missiles... all of which directly violated the INF treaty of course.

You can use them in an anti ship role, but won't make much of a difference. The warhead and fuel tank are too small.

Some of the bigger missiles have rather big warheads... S-300 has a 150kg HE warhead and BUK has a 50kg warhead, both of which could take out a large section of a ship... their accuracy in command guidance mode is good enough to hit an aircraft or missile target so poking the nose of one into a ships bridge should be straight forward...

Russia’s use of air-launched anti-ship missiles with only and limited secondary land-attack capability to attempt to strike Ukrainian targets suggests its dedicated land-attack cruise missile inventory is running low.

The fact is that they have a wide variety of weapons for the job at hand and they are spoiled for choice and are using a variety of tools for specific jobs.

Some have very long range and others no so long range, so different targets are better dealt with a suitable weapon system... Kinzhal being very high speed is good for deep bunkers for instance, perhaps to the west of the country where the air defence might be more intact.

Just let it sink in, the entire "collective west" supports these morons.

Worse... I would say collective west supports these war criminals...

Ukrainians dumped anti-personnel mines into central Donetsk, a car has already run into one. Dunno how, usually cassettes of these have to be delivered via airpower

Those plastic butterfly mines they used in Afghanistan... launched by rocket or delivered by helicopter or aircraft, they contain a liquid explosive... when they are launched the mines are frozen... once they thaw out the liquid explosive becomes dangerous and will explode at a touch.

The western reporters came across a Muj with a big hole in his forehead and worked out he had been throwing stones at the mines to set them off before he tried walking through an area that had been seeded with them... one of the mines he hit just right and the explosion blew the stone right back at him at high speed and penetrated his forehead and killed him on the spot...

They used to love the rain because heavy rain will set them off too...

A T-72B Mod. 1985 demines the road by running over the mines

Best way to clear them... they are made of plastic and the liquid explosive wont damage a tank track... a street roller would be better as you wouldn't need to keep going up and down a lot to get them all.

A small calibre rifle would also be effective... a .22lr with a good scope could shoot them from 30m or so which should be a safe distance.

People from Zaporoshye waiting in long lines to get into the liberated parts of the region. How will western media try to spin this...?