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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:50 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Any map updates for Donbass? Or any good websites for such

    You can perhaps look here?
    https://southfront.org/

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:56 pm

    limb wrote:

    Any civil engineers here who can explain how much time would ut take to fix the bridge so tanks can go through it?

    How deep is the dniepr there? Can tanks snorkel through some points.

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    It is not one bridge, but two paralell bridge.
    The bridge has two kind of section, one is close to the shore, with simple vertical beams under the road, other is the three long spand box support section.

    The box supported long spand section received hits, means the bridge load  bearing capability degraded by the width of the sum of the holes.

    It is relativly easy to calculate the value.


    The simiples quick fix is to install a metal frame  structure onto the current bridge roads, self supporting that can stand independently of the concrete structure bellow.

    If they push it then it is a matter of weeks to install it, most likelly the military has pre-fabricated sections for this exact purpose.


    And by the shape of the middle section it is stronger than neccessary, means it has lot of allowance for extra structures.

    If there is an independent metal structure on the top of it htne it will be  extremly hard to damage it with missiles.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:18 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:It's about time for Odessa's liberation. Transnistria should not be forced to wait too long for Russia's protection from the increasingly aggressive moves of the Western bloc.

    About the HIMARS: According to Sputnik News they are now operated by Nato staff members, because Nato does not trust Ukrainians any more. If that is true, then the rumors are true that Nato is stupid enough to start escalating this conflict to a direct war with Russia instead of accepting their own failure to establish a useful Ukrainian puppet. One can only hope for the sake of humanity that Russia's strength and the growing weakness of the West will deter them.

    We are far from any Odessa operation lots of ground still needs to be taken before that

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:45 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/swodki/137673?single

    Here the problem of the antonovsky bridge shelling is explained

    The bridge must be preserved or else resupply must go through Kakhovskaya power station dam, which will take 120km to get from M17 highway to Kherson from Dzhankoy

    It is necessary to push these forces to Nikolayev and maneuver north of Nikolayev
    Then you can cut off both Odessa and Nikolayev as well as reach Pridnestrovie
    Problem is that Ukrainians are hitting bridge over Ingulets on the road from Kakhovka to Kherson.
    Odessa is still months away and I'm not sure if there are enough forces in the theater, rn, to take Nikolaev and surroundings. Seeing Ukrainians are hitting those bridges, it might mean that they are really going to try some bigger offensive there.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:49 pm

    With that said, bridges are structurally intact, which means that fixes can be pretty quick if need be.
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    Post  franco Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:51 pm

    Mir wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:Any map updates for Donbass? Or any good websites for such

    You can perhaps look here?
    https://southfront.org/

    https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps

    https://twitter.com/DeuNachrichten

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    Post  Belisarius Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:49 am

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Another American M777 howitzer destroyed
    https://t.me/intelslava/33780?single

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:02 am

    Well Kiev,...how is the war going for you?.

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    RF SF head out to scout Ukrainian fortifications



    RF artillery takes out Ukrainian armor trying to hide



    Odessa Brigade, it is formed exclusively from Ukrainian volunteers



    RF SU 25's over Ukraine



    LPR artillery forces Ukrainians to abandon their positions



    @belisarius, you where a bit quicker than me posting that destroyed M777 Razz.
    I got one more to add to that tough Wink.

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    More NATO equipment in pieces.

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    and some Robotic Z

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    BMPT Terminator.
    Amazing looking machines  Cool

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    Post  Sujoy Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:04 am

    Modularized pods seems to be the way forward for any modern multiple-launch rocket system (MLRS).

    Even the Chinese are now deploying the PHL-16 MLRS compatible 500 km range short range ballistic missile on their border with India. The Chinese are basically emulating the Americans with their M142 HIMARS compatible PrSM SRBM system.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:47 am

    Sujoy wrote:Modularized pods seems to be the way forward for any modern multiple-launch rocket system (MLRS).

    Even the Chinese are now deploying the PHL-16 MLRS compatible 500 km range short range ballistic missile on their border with India. The Chinese are basically emulating the Americans with their M142 HIMARS compatible PrSM SRBM system.

    Not really. Those systems have two different roles. I would rather keep ballistic missile launchers separeted from the rocket launchers. MLRS have less range so are closer to the front where they can be destroyed mire easily than BM launchers that are kept further away from enemy.

    China has copies of russian MLRS, russian Iskanders, US MLRS , US missiles... they copy everything. But that doesn't mean everything is in service. They have plenty of projects that went as far as prototypes and are not used by PLA. Thry offer them for export but once ordered there is still lot to do to make them operational.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:48 am

    The headquarters of the FSB in the Kursk region under fire from the armed forces of Ukraine.

    https://vk.com/video-123538639_456287192


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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:35 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21 - Page 15 M7775110
    Well, by the looks the gun was lightly damaged.  Laughing

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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:45 am

    M-777 was so much hyped... I don't get why. It's just a field artillery gun similar to Msta-B or others that Ukraine has in mass. It adds nothing more. Actually ukraine has IIRC guided shells for its soviet systems.

    HIMARS at least has a respectable range, very good accuracy and can run away quickly to hide which make it nasty if used correctly.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:04 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    Problem is that Ukrainians are hitting bridge over Ingulets on the road from Kakhovka to Kherson.
    Odessa is still months away and I'm not sure if there are enough forces in the theater, rn, to take Nikolaev and surroundings. Seeing Ukrainians are hitting those bridges, it might mean that they are really going to try some bigger offensive there.


    That would also mean a large formation that would be easy to spot. Ukraine constantly sending soldiers and equipment to Kherson and they all get hit by artillery and they flee. Tons of drones and planes flying over the area too.

    There won't be a large offensive. They don't have the manpower nor the equipment to do it. At best they will just continue to hit with artillery.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:01 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    That would also mean a large formation that would be easy to spot. Ukraine constantly sending soldiers and equipment to Kherson and they all get hit by artillery and they flee. Tons of drones and planes flying over the area too.

    There won't be a large offensive. They don't have the manpower nor the equipment to do it.  At best they will just continue to hit with artillery.

    I would agree with you, but they don't care about the soldiers. And they need virtual victories to keep the money and weapons flowing.
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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:25 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:
    Problem is that Ukrainians are hitting bridge over Ingulets on the road from Kakhovka to Kherson.
    Odessa is still months away and I'm not sure if there are enough forces in the theater, rn, to take Nikolaev and surroundings. Seeing Ukrainians are hitting those bridges, it might mean that they are really going to try some bigger offensive there.


    That would also mean a large formation that would be easy to spot. Ukraine constantly sending soldiers and equipment to Kherson and they all get hit by artillery and they flee. Tons of drones and planes flying over the area too.

    There won't be a large offensive. They don't have the manpower nor the equipment to do it.  At best they will just continue to hit with artillery.
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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:26 am

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    More pics from that unlucky gun

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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:27 am

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:52 am

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    Post  zorobabel Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:07 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:Any map updates for Donbass? Or any good websites for such
    No major map updates in the last two weeks. Somewhat worrying, but hopefully not an indication of stalemate.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:08 am

    Arrow wrote:The headquarters of the FSB in the Kursk region under fire from the armed forces of Ukraine.

    https://vk.com/video-123538639_456287192



    Amazing. The Orcs managed to miss all the buildings with every single rocket and did nothing except to make some work for the gardeners (who will probably appreciate the overtime work Razz )

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:09 am

    caveat emptor wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21 - Page 15 Img_2035

    So 4 foreign militants killed

    I suspect there's a lot more who they're not admitting to of course. Strikes in Konstantinovka and I think in Nikolayev over the past 2 weeks specifically targeted combatants from the Ukrainian foreign legion and according to Russian claims at least destroyed a huge batch of them. As of late, strikes on the HIMARS systems would have killed some foreign specialists, possibly on the M777 howitzers too.

    Wonder why the Western state media chose to make these particular mercs public


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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:10 am

    Hole wrote:
    Well, by the looks the gun was lightly damaged.  Laughing

    Russian attacks (on civilian targets) required a tactical withdrawal...   lol1

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:11 am

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    There's a meltdown in progress it seems. The US Helsinki Commission may need to be evac'd for 10km around just to be on the safe side.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:14 am

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/15596

    🇺 The UN said that Russia may not have violated the agreement on the export of Ukrainian grain by shelling the port of Odessa. The words of an unnamed representative of the organization are quoted by The New York Times.

    According to the official, "technically, Russia may not have violated the deal, since it did not commit to avoid attacks on those parts of Ukrainian ports that are not directly used for grain exports."

    Yea, you got that right unnamed cuck🌚

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