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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 02:33 am

    https://t.me/intelslava/33539

    My favorite plane, su25sm3 firing s25 guided rockets on targets

    Su25sm3 is the undisputed champion

    Su35 and su34 got knocked down

    But su25 is a fucking beast , eating MANPADS and SAM , with jamming system, it's just a monster, flying low

    Beautiful

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    Post  Belisarius 21/07/22, 03:36 am

    The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

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    https://t.me/levigodman/4183

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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 03:46 am

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    The detail of this map is very nice, you can see what it takes to approach the urban centers

    The small settlements are like islands floating around,  

    Seversk they will go to capture the surrounding settlements

    In Soledar , the settlement in front of Novay Kamyanka is also good to capture, like a mini severodonetsk, without rivers or bridges to cross

    The Ugledar powerplant is very important, it gives way to the south of Artemovsk/ Bakhmut

    Ukrainians are dying to defend that zone

    The Zelensky line is important to delay the fall of donbass

    Also it appears more progress was made in Avdeyevka, Russian army is already in the city

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    Post  caveat emptor 21/07/22, 03:58 am

    Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

    Lavrov

    https://t.me/levigodman/4183

    Full interview with Lavrov, for those interested:

    https://t.me/rtdrussian/565

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia 21/07/22, 03:59 am

    I don't understand, why Russia is not pushing harder towards Odessa already.

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    Post  caveat emptor 21/07/22, 04:00 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    The detail of this map is very nice, you can see what it takes to approach the urban centers

    The small settlements are like islands floating around,  

    Seversk they will go to capture the surrounding settlements

    In Soledar , the settlement in front of Novay Kamyanka is also good to capture, like a mini severodonetsk, without rivers or bridges to cross

    The Ugledar powerplant is very important, it gives way to the south of Artemovsk/ Bakhmut

    Ukrainians are dying to defend that zone

    The Zelensky line is important to delay the fall of donbass

    Also it appears more progress was made in Avdeyevka, Russian army is already in the city

    Important area is Chasovy Yar and its vicinity, with commanding heights over Kramatorsk and surroundings.
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    Post  caveat emptor 21/07/22, 04:01 am

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:I don't understand, why Russia is not pushing harder towards Odessa already.
    They need more manpower for that. To take Nikolaev first and then proceed to Odessa.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 04:02 am

    caveat emptor wrote:

    Important area is Chasovy Yar and its vicinity, with commanding heights over Kramatorsk and surroundings.

    First is zelensky line, then comes slavyansk/kramatorsk

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    Post  VARGR198 21/07/22, 04:45 am



    Captured Polish T72

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    Post  mnztr 21/07/22, 05:44 am

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:I don't understand, why Russia is not pushing harder towards Odessa already.

    Why would you attack Odesa? Take the easy territory above and starve it out. If they can take all the approaches it will be so much easier.

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    Post  Hole 21/07/22, 06:16 am

    Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

    Lavrov

    https://t.me/levigodman/4183

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html#more

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    Post  JohninMK 21/07/22, 06:53 am

    Hole wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

    Lavrov

    https://t.me/levigodman/4183

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html#more

    The longer the range of the weapon the further the Russians have to move forward to protect themselves from it. Looks like the western borders it is then.

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    Post  JohninMK 21/07/22, 07:01 am

    https://tass.com/defense/1412703
    Kiev regime’s leaders to be inevitably punished - Russian Defense Ministry

    MOSCOW, February 27. /TASS/. The Kiev regime’s ringleaders and their minions will be tracked down and inevitably and properly punished, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov told a news briefing on Sunday.

    "All faces, voices, telephones, whereabouts, IP-addresses and messages among all Ukrainian Nazis, who are responsible for humiliation and torture of our comrades are being identified and put on record. The same concerns the ringleaders of the Kiev regime and their minions, who call for torture of Russian soldiers in violation of the prisoners-of-war treatment convention. All of you will be tracked down and inevitably and properly punished," he said.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 07:56 am

    Hardware news.

    The 2S25 Sprut-SD has been approved for production.

    The Sprut-SD is an amphibious,  air droppable tank destroyer, complete with a 2A75 125mm tank gun, 3rd generation gunner thermals, CITV, and independent remote control machine gun for the commander. Several units were spotted operating in Ukraine

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21 - Page 7 Img_2140

    I will repost this in ground forces under sprut, but can someone explain why this is a good vehicle for Ukraine? Wouldn't BMP 3 do this job? The armor is light , and the gun is bigger, but why send sprut against MBT?

    Is this strictly for VDV? To give them heavier firepower on airdrops?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 08:10 am

    https://t.me/zastavnyii/926

    Apparently Lavrovs word prompted some followers to suggest that the yellow area will be absorbed

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    Post  Hole 21/07/22, 08:10 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

    Lavrov

    https://t.me/levigodman/4183

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html#more

    The longer the range of the weapon the further the Russians have to move forward to protect themselves from it. Looks like the western borders it is then.

    Yes. As I stated before, go up to the polish border and build a wall. Let NATO decide if it wants to continue the war from within Poland. Which won´t happen.

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    Post  limb 21/07/22, 08:11 am

    Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?
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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 08:15 am

    limb wrote:Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

    There was plenty, during July on trains going to Kherson

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    Post  Hole 21/07/22, 08:18 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Hardware news.

    The 2S25 Sprut-SD has been approved for production.

    The Sprut-SD is an amphibious,  air droppable tank destroyer, complete with a 2A75 125mm tank gun, 3rd generation gunner thermals, CITV, and independent remote control machine gun for the commander. Several units were spotted operating in Ukraine

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21 - Page 7 Img_2140

    I will repost this in ground forces under sprut, but can someone explain why this is a good vehicle for Ukraine? Wouldn't BMP 3 do this job? The armor is light , and the gun is bigger, but why send sprut against MBT?

    Is this strictly for VDV? To give them heavier firepower on airdrops?

    To be precise the 2S25 was in production for a while some years ago until the VDV decided to go for a completely new chassis (roadwheels, suspension and so on).
    The new version was developed from the BMD-4M and is called 2S25M1 or Sprut-SDM1. It is for the VDV and will be used as a light tank or mobile AT gun (it was called that way back
    in the 90´s when the design first appeared).

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    Post  Hole 21/07/22, 08:19 am

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    From Levi, I think this is from Medveded.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 08:21 am

    Hole wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Hardware news.

    The 2S25 Sprut-SD has been approved for production.

    The Sprut-SD is an amphibious,  air droppable tank destroyer, complete with a 2A75 125mm tank gun, 3rd generation gunner thermals, CITV, and independent remote control machine gun for the commander. Several units were spotted operating in Ukraine

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21 - Page 7 Img_2140

    I will repost this in ground forces under sprut, but can someone explain why this is a good vehicle for Ukraine? Wouldn't BMP 3 do this job? The armor is light , and the gun is bigger, but why send sprut against MBT?

    Is this strictly for VDV? To give them heavier firepower on airdrops?

    To be precise the 2S25 was in production for a while some years ago until the VDV decided to go for a completely new chassis (roadwheels, suspension and so on).
    The new version was developed from the BMD-4M and is called 2S25M1 or Sprut-SDM1. It is for the VDV and will be used as a light tank or mobile AT gun (it was called that way back
    in the 90´s when the design first appeared).

    But why is it going into production now? What usefulness does it have for VDV that BMD 4 didn't have
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    Post  limb 21/07/22, 08:25 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    limb wrote:Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

    There was plenty, during July on trains going to Kherson

    Those looked like unupgraded T-80BVs still with the IR searchlight, and T-72 obr.1989
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    Post  Arkanghelsk 21/07/22, 10:26 am

    limb wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    limb wrote:Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

    There was plenty, during July on trains going to Kherson

    Those looked like unupgraded T-80BVs still with the IR searchlight, and T-72 obr.1989

    The t72s had kontakt 5, but t80 with kontakt 1 is still good enough for BTG support

    However tanks do not play a large role in the battles of Donbass

    Artillery is more important and hence the BTG main advantage , the fire support from MLRS, SPG, and towed howitzer as well as various special weapons attached to the battalion

    The goal of the BTG is to fix the enemy by fire

    The BTG is light and superior in firepower solutions, that's why a battalion with light manpower can control vast spaces of Ukraine , each BTG controlling 5 to 10km of space

    In fact the BTG usually maneuvers by fire, so cauldrons are usually operationally enveloped by artillery

    Meaning the men can choose to attack on a flank, while the other is a wall of fire preventing the enemy from moving

    That's why Ukrainian brigades cannot outmaneuver the BTG which has a manpower disadvantage of 3 sometimes greater

    That means a 2000 man brigade of teraborona, national guard, volunteers, and regular forces cannot hold out against a 700 man infantry force

    Especially if they take 70% losses simply sitting in trenches and buildings

    In this case tanks are not important , more so is the constant tempo of fire

    Then the VSU has to rotate these fucked up brigades with another unit, and then another 2 weeks of pummeling said brigade

    Until they run out of manpower unfortunately

    War to the last Ukrainian

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    Post  caveat emptor 21/07/22, 10:39 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    But why is it going into production now? What usefulness does it have for VDV that BMD 4 didn't have

    I hope that they will learn lessons from this war. They don't need to equip all VDV units with these weapons. For airdrop operations they need maybe few brigades. Rest can fight as light infantry with some lightly armoured wheeled vehicles (like Tigr with Arbalet and such) to which you add standard heavy tanks and other vehicles as needed. In a war with near peer opponent, there's almost zero chance they'll do airdrop behind enemy lines. Operating all VDV units with full attachment of these vehicles is very expensive.

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