Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21

https://t.me/intelslava/33539

My favorite plane, su25sm3 firing s25 guided rockets on targets

Su25sm3 is the undisputed champion

Su35 and su34 got knocked down

But su25 is a fucking beast , eating MANPADS and SAM , with jamming system, it's just a monster, flying low

Beautiful

The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

Lavrov

https://t.me/levigodman/4183

The detail of this map is very nice, you can see what it takes to approach the urban centers

The small settlements are like islands floating around,  

Seversk they will go to capture the surrounding settlements

In Soledar , the settlement in front of Novay Kamyanka is also good to capture, like a mini severodonetsk, without rivers or bridges to cross

The Ugledar powerplant is very important, it gives way to the south of Artemovsk/ Bakhmut

Ukrainians are dying to defend that zone

The Zelensky line is important to delay the fall of donbass

Also it appears more progress was made in Avdeyevka, Russian army is already in the city

Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

Lavrov

https://t.me/levigodman/4183

Full interview with Lavrov, for those interested:

https://t.me/rtdrussian/565

I don't understand, why Russia is not pushing harder towards Odessa already.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

The detail of this map is very nice, you can see what it takes to approach the urban centers

The small settlements are like islands floating around,  

Seversk they will go to capture the surrounding settlements

In Soledar , the settlement in front of Novay Kamyanka is also good to capture, like a mini severodonetsk, without rivers or bridges to cross

The Ugledar powerplant is very important, it gives way to the south of Artemovsk/ Bakhmut

Ukrainians are dying to defend that zone

The Zelensky line is important to delay the fall of donbass

Also it appears more progress was made in Avdeyevka, Russian army is already in the city

Important area is Chasovy Yar and its vicinity, with commanding heights over Kramatorsk and surroundings.

SolidarityWithRussia wrote:I don't understand, why Russia is not pushing harder towards Odessa already.

They need more manpower for that. To take Nikolaev first and then proceed to Odessa.

caveat emptor wrote:

Important area is Chasovy Yar and its vicinity, with commanding heights over Kramatorsk and surroundings.

First is zelensky line, then comes slavyansk/kramatorsk

Captured Polish T72

SolidarityWithRussia wrote:I don't understand, why Russia is not pushing harder towards Odessa already.

Why would you attack Odesa? Take the easy territory above and starve it out. If they can take all the approaches it will be so much easier.

Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

Lavrov

https://t.me/levigodman/4183

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html#more

Hole wrote:

Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

Lavrov

https://t.me/levigodman/4183

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html#more

The longer the range of the weapon the further the Russians have to move forward to protect themselves from it. Looks like the western borders it is then.

https://tass.com/defense/1412703
Kiev regime’s leaders to be inevitably punished - Russian Defense Ministry

MOSCOW, February 27. /TASS/. The Kiev regime’s ringleaders and their minions will be tracked down and inevitably and properly punished, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov told a news briefing on Sunday.

"All faces, voices, telephones, whereabouts, IP-addresses and messages among all Ukrainian Nazis, who are responsible for humiliation and torture of our comrades are being identified and put on record. The same concerns the ringleaders of the Kiev regime and their minions, who call for torture of Russian soldiers in violation of the prisoners-of-war treatment convention. All of you will be tracked down and inevitably and properly punished," he said.

Hardware news.

The 2S25 Sprut-SD has been approved for production.

The Sprut-SD is an amphibious,  air droppable tank destroyer, complete with a 2A75 125mm tank gun, 3rd generation gunner thermals, CITV, and independent remote control machine gun for the commander. Several units were spotted operating in Ukraine



I will repost this in ground forces under sprut, but can someone explain why this is a good vehicle for Ukraine? Wouldn't BMP 3 do this job? The armor is light , and the gun is bigger, but why send sprut against MBT?

Is this strictly for VDV? To give them heavier firepower on airdrops?

https://t.me/zastavnyii/926

Apparently Lavrovs word prompted some followers to suggest that the yellow area will be absorbed

JohninMK wrote:

Hole wrote:

Belisarius wrote:The geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories

Lavrov

https://t.me/levigodman/4183

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html#more

The longer the range of the weapon the further the Russians have to move forward to protect themselves from it. Looks like the western borders it is then.

Yes. As I stated before, go up to the polish border and build a wall. Let NATO decide if it wants to continue the war from within Poland. Which won´t happen.

Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

limb wrote:Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

There was plenty, during July on trains going to Kherson

Arkanghelsk wrote:Hardware news.

The 2S25 Sprut-SD has been approved for production.

The Sprut-SD is an amphibious,  air droppable tank destroyer, complete with a 2A75 125mm tank gun, 3rd generation gunner thermals, CITV, and independent remote control machine gun for the commander. Several units were spotted operating in Ukraine



I will repost this in ground forces under sprut, but can someone explain why this is a good vehicle for Ukraine? Wouldn't BMP 3 do this job? The armor is light , and the gun is bigger, but why send sprut against MBT?

Is this strictly for VDV? To give them heavier firepower on airdrops?

To be precise the 2S25 was in production for a while some years ago until the VDV decided to go for a completely new chassis (roadwheels, suspension and so on).
The new version was developed from the BMD-4M and is called 2S25M1 or Sprut-SDM1. It is for the VDV and will be used as a light tank or mobile AT gun (it was called that way back
in the 90´s when the design first appeared).

From Levi, I think this is from Medveded.

Hole wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Hardware news.

The 2S25 Sprut-SD has been approved for production.

The Sprut-SD is an amphibious,  air droppable tank destroyer, complete with a 2A75 125mm tank gun, 3rd generation gunner thermals, CITV, and independent remote control machine gun for the commander. Several units were spotted operating in Ukraine



I will repost this in ground forces under sprut, but can someone explain why this is a good vehicle for Ukraine? Wouldn't BMP 3 do this job? The armor is light , and the gun is bigger, but why send sprut against MBT?

Is this strictly for VDV? To give them heavier firepower on airdrops?

To be precise the 2S25 was in production for a while some years ago until the VDV decided to go for a completely new chassis (roadwheels, suspension and so on).
The new version was developed from the BMD-4M and is called 2S25M1 or Sprut-SDM1. It is for the VDV and will be used as a light tank or mobile AT gun (it was called that way back
in the 90´s when the design first appeared).

But why is it going into production now? What usefulness does it have for VDV that BMD 4 didn't have

Arkanghelsk wrote:

limb wrote:Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

There was plenty, during July on trains going to Kherson

Those looked like unupgraded T-80BVs still with the IR searchlight, and T-72 obr.1989

limb wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

limb wrote:Why aren't we seeing any footage of T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs anymore?

There was plenty, during July on trains going to Kherson

Those looked like unupgraded T-80BVs still with the IR searchlight, and T-72 obr.1989

The t72s had kontakt 5, but t80 with kontakt 1 is still good enough for BTG support

However tanks do not play a large role in the battles of Donbass

Artillery is more important and hence the BTG main advantage , the fire support from MLRS, SPG, and towed howitzer as well as various special weapons attached to the battalion

The goal of the BTG is to fix the enemy by fire

The BTG is light and superior in firepower solutions, that's why a battalion with light manpower can control vast spaces of Ukraine , each BTG controlling 5 to 10km of space

In fact the BTG usually maneuvers by fire, so cauldrons are usually operationally enveloped by artillery

Meaning the men can choose to attack on a flank, while the other is a wall of fire preventing the enemy from moving

That's why Ukrainian brigades cannot outmaneuver the BTG which has a manpower disadvantage of 3 sometimes greater

That means a 2000 man brigade of teraborona, national guard, volunteers, and regular forces cannot hold out against a 700 man infantry force

Especially if they take 70% losses simply sitting in trenches and buildings

In this case tanks are not important , more so is the constant tempo of fire

Then the VSU has to rotate these fucked up brigades with another unit, and then another 2 weeks of pummeling said brigade

Until they run out of manpower unfortunately

War to the last Ukrainian

Arkanghelsk wrote:

But why is it going into production now? What usefulness does it have for VDV that BMD 4 didn't have

I hope that they will learn lessons from this war. They don't need to equip all VDV units with these weapons. For airdrop operations they need maybe few brigades. Rest can fight as light infantry with some lightly armoured wheeled vehicles (like Tigr with Arbalet and such) to which you add standard heavy tanks and other vehicles as needed. In a war with near peer opponent, there's almost zero chance they'll do airdrop behind enemy lines. Operating all VDV units with full attachment of these vehicles is very expensive.