Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

LMFS wrote:Reckoning day coming for the nazi pigs:

I really hope it will be a public trail for this piece of garbage and that he will hang so everyone can see it.

PapaDragon wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:
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Nice to see Russia going full Reagan USA, good branding has been sorely lacking until now  

And just in time for new Top Gun film  

Also good to see some representation for V group, Z group have bee hogging all the glory so far


Speaking of branding I started seeing kids here in Serbia wearing T-shirts with Z logo (that's on top of insane stream of Russian films on TV, Outpost was just on tonight)

Great to hear! , Serbia's future is with Russia.
screw the EU. It's an proxy for Washington.

i know you know, i know Serbia knows.
Its just i do not want to skip of any chance to curb-stomb the monstrosity that is brussels.
https://youtu.be/rQnXo2HMriQ

The West only deserves total humiliation and defeat.

The thing in this conflict, you can not give the enemy time to dig in.
im open for shelling surrender-shells for a day, and after that its the green-light for the TOS-1A's and Infantry to go forward and neutralize the threats.

Russia does this operation well, units are rotated out of the conflict zone, and rotated in.
It guarantees constant,fresh pressure and avoids battle-fatigue on your own side.
Same for rotating the commanders, it was "our/NATO" downfall in Afghanistan.

by the time NATO commanders adapted to an strategy. the commanders left and a new one came into the field.
wreaking havoc with his own strategies.

NATO is an corrupt war-machine, you do not have good commanders.
they all exited the millitary during the Afghanistan campaign.
I am certainly not the only one that saw the Military industrial complex for what it was.
you went on an tour, Saw your guys torn to pieces, saw the corruption. and you got called again for another tour to just experience the same shit.
Just to feed the U.S War Machine.

The guys running Ukraine now?.
Just misguided idiots that swallowed the propaganda pill.
These Westerners came to Ukraine to wage war on Russia, LPR, DPR.
They do not deserve to learn from their mistakes.

PMC's, Trainers, instructors, advisors.
They all deserve to pay the ultimate price at the end of Russian Ordnance.

For all the things NATO has done in the world. This Retribution is highly overdue.
The only end is the total defeat of NATO and the Nazi Kiev Government.

Isos wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Mindless_drone wrote:....They are pulling t62s out of storage. Probably cause they realised they are losing to much frontline stuff...

Had you actually bothered to keep up you'd knew that T-62s are delivered to Republican troops

As for them losing some tanks that's local issue not Russian Army one

They will always get more

Most of the destroyed tanks are actually just damaged anf will be repaired. Once they gain terrain they will recover them easily. Thry will also capture ukrainian tanks.

2 years after the end of the war, once they repaired all of them, they will have more tanks than at the start of the war.

Ukraine had a stock of 1000-1500 tanks.

Before the start of the Russian special operation Ukraine had over 2 000 tanks.

Not long ago it got probably over 200 (232?) from its tributary state of Poland.

It also got some tanks from Czechia.




I think you might be a bit too optimistic about the recovery of the Russian tanks.

limb wrote:

Mir wrote:Special Ops in Ukraine for Dummies and Trolls like Vann, Limb and other Mindless idiots from The Empire of Lies >>

How many months to take Odessa. Wh were 6 russian tanks immobilized by a minefield?

https://twitter.com/TriTro29/status/1545790472089640965?t=O8-tAJwbMaTqBNp50Gvuqg&s=19

Btw zoka on twitter is saying that the svyatogorsk monastery is still held by Ukraine

Don't go that far..

The charts the ignoramus posted is missing the time lines ..

How many months /years for russian army to take Kharkiv ?  A city right next to Russian border?

How many Russian soldiers lives later?  15k?  20k? 30k? 50k?

How many Months /years take for Russian airforce to smash Ukraine artillery ?

How many months or years for Russian airforce to achieve air superiority for real?
and smash Ukraine artillery ?    


Does people in this forum aware ,that  ukraine artillery can only fight . IF the airspace above them is safe?

so apparently Ukranians feels very very safe , using artillery , because there is no where to be see
the missing in action  Russian airforce in the front line.   The only thing close to Russian airforce fighting ukraine is the few Su-25s throwing unguided rockets ,at random places in hopes that they get lucky and one hit something..

The only reason RUssian army is advacing is because their strong artillery forces..  but at same time
their speed is disastrous , because of the mediocre Close Air support of Russian airforce.  Ukranian drones allowed left and right to freely flight over Russian positions.. All is great..

IF russia did things rights.. and had the correct tactics and correct airforce.. none of this bullshit
trench war developed by NATO would have worked..delaying for months the Russian army operations. because strike drones can hit right inside any trench using laser guide missiles when flying above them.

Russian military is simply forced to do it all . 99% of the kills with artillery and cruise missiles..
because of the colossal failure of the Russian airforce.. No combined arms operations , very few use of strike drones , no glide bombs.. very little use loitering/kamike munition or missiles armed with
tv/camera guide missiles.. And very poor documentation of their victories in video..  absolute zero use of manpads against Ukraine drones.  is like the Russia everyone knows cease to exist. and is being  ruled by incompetence .

indeed World records totally useless and meaningless ,when you see how easy is for ukraine to bomb Russian cities with low flying choppers or strike drones and return.  

Don't make excuses people.. Russia for sure is the less bad military in Ukraine ,but that doesn't means that Russian airforce is doing great.. is pretty bad..  Airforce is supposed to be the one bombing first , smashing ukraine artillery and air defenses.  Not a single fucking video of an Su-35 ,Su-34 , Su-30 smashing artillery ,even less air defenses.. .    

All that i have seens is russia depending heavily in cruise missiles and artillery ,stand off weapons
to push back the ukies.. because russian airforce is not doing its job that is supposed to do..
in close air support.

Surprises that Zelensky could be planning in august , major escalation.

1) Chemical war.. with lots of civilians killed in donbass.. and maybe Russian cities too..
that could explain why NATO provide chemical equipment to Ukie Troops.

2) The recruit of 50,000 ISIS fighters from middle east ,to help ukraine Nazis to win , with dozens of thousands of suicide bombers.

3) mass scale drone war , with thousands of mini suicide drones in mass guided by artificial intelligence..

NATO is perfectly capable to neutralize the Russian slow advancing army with superior tactics and weapons , specially if Russia military don't have an airforce that could really support them.

Hopefully the fool president , Vladimir Putin and his outdated generals ,would not be caught with pants down again by surprise and prepare for such things..

But like i said all this kind of tactics Ukraine have been using trench warfare , and now potentially
chemical or Isis suicide bombers. Could only be possible if Russia continues sucking so bad in close
air support.. Which is the only way to target moving targets. like soldiers and artillery can be.

There is another possibility Vann, that Zelensky is blowing hot air and that he just wants the cash and weapons to keep flowing in.  Taxpayers are funny especially in election years.  They want to know that the billions in aid they are footing the bill for is going to be utilized well.

Now if Ukraine does launch an offensive, it will get its ass kicked because while Russia may not do close air support as well as you'd like, Ukrainian air power is shot down the moment it gets into the air.  Second, Russian strategic rockets actually nail military installations and c and c.  Ukraine lobs rockets hoping something hits and by and large they get shot down.  Third, Russia has been inflicting casualties at a 10 to 20 to 1 ratio.  It's not a clean war but it's not an early GPW slaughter house for the Russian army and their tactics work just fine.  Fourth, if Ukraine does try to stage a chemical weapons attack to get NATO into the war well Russia won't be the only nation to have a lot to fear.

Quick question for Vann, based on history, which side is more likely to become bored and for get about Ukraine a) Russia or b) Nato and the west ? Russia knows this, so slow roll it. Ukraine fatigue has already set in. The weapons donations are getting smaller and smaller when they really need to get bigger. The economic impact of sanctions are coming home to roost resulting in Western unrest.

Russia is not even using its strength in donbass operation

Putin and the Kremlin stated that nothing has even started yet

NATO would do worse than Ukraine, without numbers, and without the soft spot Russia has for Ukraine

No restraint would be shown to NATO, and the tailored tactics of the SMO are not what would be used against NATO

Don't confuse kindness for weakness

This method is a mercy killing for Ukrainian army while saving as many civilians as possible

Too much propaganda is flooding this forum

Zelensky claims a million strong army poised.
https://www.rt.com/russia/558740-ukraine-ready-to-recapture-south/

Why would you announce this publicly, ruin the element of surprise, before you deploy the army?

Perhaps NATO are going to send in troops and pretend they are Ukrainian.

I'm gonna start blocking people responding to Vann and other trolls. No need to flood this thread in responses to an established and well known troll. It is no longer a debate, it's just circular logic with the guy.

Anyway

https://t.me/intelslava/32790

Looks like Russia is supplying DNR forces with Tochka-U from storage.

https://t.me/intelslava/32790

Tochka U was given to the LDPR

What we see here is a fully fledged Missile Brigade of the LDNR

This will be used to degrade the Ukrainian buildup near the front line, it's perfect to hit troops concentrations and critical weaponry without spending an Iskander or a Kalibr on such close range targets, that are still out of range of Rocket artillery or MSTA B

At the same time Izd 305E, Kh29, Kh59, and Kh31 are working on other targets entirely , and drones as well

So Tochka U will certainly increase the density of fire on Ukrainians

https://t.me/intelslava/32794

The Russian hacker group RaHDIt and the Ukrainian "Beregini" were able to obtain secret operational documents about the actions of the Ukrainian army and the real situation at the front.

The hackers also managed to establish channels for receiving "from the Armed Forces of Ukraine" up-to-date information on the operational situation in the combat zone of the situation at the front.

According to hackers, American intelligence supplies Kyiv with radar data, as well as satellite images, including the territory of Russia, which is then subjected to rocket and artillery attacks on civilians, a member of the RaHDIt hacker group told RIA Novosti.

Gas supplies via Nord Stream stopped from 0700 Moscow time on Monday - data from the pipeline operator

Ouch!!!

Nord stream 2 anyone ?



Vladimirovka was taken, positions are being built along Soledar Seversk and Bakhmut at the same time

Arkanghelsk wrote:Gas supplies via Nord Stream stopped from 0700 Moscow time on Monday - data from the pipeline operator

Ouch!!!

Nord stream 2 anyone ?



Vladimirovka was taken, positions are being built along Soledar Seversk and Bakhmut at the same time

Me being on the short-stick of this gas crisis.
things are catastrophic here in Europe.
Social projects like elderly homes, hospitals,daycares and on the economic spectrum industries heavily reliant on gas already got warnings of gas rationing.
gas reserve bunkers can not be stocked up.
Alloy industries already have to scale down production, they can no longer compete with asian industries because of the high energy price spike.

Canada has approved the return of the Gas turbines to Russia for the Primary Nord Stream 1 trough Germany to Russia.

Economy's are grinding to a halt here, Germany has already the first trade deficit for the first time in 30 years.
Coal plants in europe are going to 100% production to compensate, Nuclear power plants in Germany that where supposed to be decomissioned are remaining in production.

Medvedev is right, Winter is comming for Europe.



Personally, i dont care. the EU deserves to suffer for supporting Nazi's.
Same for the Deaf and Blind of the population here supporting that Bandera Scum.

Its of course sad for all the low income households here that can no longer pay for their energy bills.
Not as sad as Nazi's that could go about their genocidal business in eastern ukraine for 8 years.

And you know the "leaders" here in Brussels that nobody elected and are just there in Brussels to fill their own pockets with dollars, and are deaf to the troubles of the general EU public.
"slava ukraini".

Airbornewolf wrote:

Me being on the short-stick of this gas crisis.
things are catastrophic here in Europe.
Social projects like elderly homes, hospitals,daycares and on the economic spectrum industries heavily reliant on gas already got warnings of gas rationing.
gas reserve bunkers can not be stocked up.
Alloy industries already have to scale down production, they can no longer compete with asian industries because of the high energy price spike.

Canada has approved the return of the Gas turbines to Russia for the Primary Nord Stream 1 trough Germany to Russia.

Economy's are grinding to a halt here, Germany has already the first trade deficit for the first time in 30 years.
Coal plants in europe are going to 100% production to compensate, Nuclear power plants in Germany that where supposed to be decomissioned are remaining in production.

Medvedev is right, Winter is comming for Europe.



Personally, i dont care. the EU deserves to suffer for supporting Nazi's.
Same for the Deaf and Blind of the population here supporting that Bandera Scum.

Its of course sad for all the low income households here that can no longer pay for their energy bills.
Not as sad as Nazi's that could go about their genocidal business in eastern ukraine for 8 years.

And you know the "leaders" here in Brussels that nobody elected and are just there in Brussels to fill their own pockets with dollars, and are deaf to the troubles of the general EU public.
"slava ukraini".

Behavior there in EU will self correct after winter, the blind dead and dumb will be very aware after this

So don't worry, those states will come around to their senses shortly and vote appropriately for survival

Belisarius wrote:anyone else noticed that the Su-35 got more than 10 air kills in the last 5 days?

Yup.
What's more, this time we are talking about the functioning airforces of the opponent, equipped with planes almost on pair with the VKS.
Ukrainians owned the industry capable to make both maintenance and modernization of the planes, they have produced their own missiles, etc.
Since the Vietnam war, that was not part of a game. No US-led conflict was unleashed about an enemy so much on pair.

mnztr wrote:Quick question for Vann, based on history, which side is more likely to become bored and for get about Ukraine a) Russia or b) Nato and the west ?  Russia knows this, so slow roll it. Ukraine fatigue has already set in. The weapons donations are getting smaller and smaller when they really need to get bigger. The economic impact of sanctions are coming home to roost resulting in Western unrest.

Based on History , that Russia never learns from its past mistakes , notice the humiliating defeat in Armenia ,vs Azerbaijan, that armenia got smashed there including armenian territory and Russia hellicopters too flying over Armenian airspace and Putin did nothing. Just like in Syria ,that a dozen of officer in a intel plane killed  by Israel . just like their killed pilot by Turkey airforce , and so and so..
Based on the past.. NATO knows they can play games to slap the face of Russia , and Putin will do nothing if he have a way to justify it was an "Accident".  

Based on what NATO did in Syria ..
they recruited 75,000 ISIS Soldiers there ,that invaded from IRAQ , and got all american equipment and weapons without NATO firing a single shot.  And t his is not mentioning the other 100,000 soldiers from Alqaeda and Free Syrian army working for NATO.. basically NATO was arming 200,000 jihadist there in Syria..  

Based on what NATO did on the near past Syrian war.  Anything is possible.

And if US and UK and all its European allies feel ,this is the only chance ,they have to defeat Russia
in Ukraine.. without starting a direct war with Russia using nukes..  If i were to bet,, They are going to double down ,and invest more than ever in Ukraine conflict . Biden already announced 1 billion dollars economic aid for ukraine .. for continuation of the war..  So the anglo zionist west will not give up without a real fight with Russia in Ukraine..  So if mr Putin and his cronies , don't take seriously the ukraine threat and don't fix the mountain of Shit happening with Russian mediocre performance of its airforce in close air support.. protecting their army..

Then my prediction is there is a lot more pain , nasty surprises awaiting Russia in Ukraine.
More warships sink, chemical attacks and bio attacks on Russian cities in Russia main land..
NATO airforces using F-35 ,firing cruise missiles on russian positions across poland or romanian borders , and would not be surprising either if NATO get a million man army , if not in summer , then by  the end of year offensive.

Russia is facing a world  war 3 ,  by proxy ,and if Russia wins in Ukraine and capture all its territory , then it will be next to impossible to take on Russia by NATO again , with a Russia unified with Belarus and Ukraine and Russian military now in control of transnistria corridor and another to friendly hungary , to Russia can bleed /divide Europe , and NATO too , by winning in Ukraine and by creating a land bridge to Serbia through Hungary door,. That could also create a door for Russia to do bussines with all europe under its belly.

So understimating NATO would be a big mistake.. they can still can cause a lot of damage to Russia economy and russian army , if they re-start old conflicts. like armenian and syria and Serbian war and ukraine invades Transnistria and arrest /capture all russia soldiers in transnistria,to later change them for arrested NATO mercenaries and former generals. .

BBC is already throwing stories of Afghan commanders helping Ukraine to  fight Russia.



So maybe this is just the start ,or a second round war , of Russia versus ISIS..This time the jihadist armed with latest NATO weapons ,and replace Ukranians . US was in saudi arabia just this week.. so it could be for asking soldiers. to fight Russia. Is highly unlikely NATO will give up so easily ,they will throw a lot more trainned military soldiers and even more dangerous weapons.. highly probable. that Russia would start losing a lot more Soldiers ,when NATO change tactics. and become more aggressive.

other surprises  Russia could see..

is RUsian planes in Ukraine side  used as kamikazi planes bombing  Russian positions.
So i expect dangerous and far more aggressive scalation of the west , for the destruction of Russian military.

I just read about Elensky's plans to reconquer their lost territories with almost 1 million men, but he did not explain how they are going to deal with Russia's superiority in artillery equipment. How long can Ukraine even sustain their mobilization? The EU has its own economic problems and is not ready to pump Ukraine with billions of Euros each month to compensate their mobilization. Banderastan is about to become a failed state.

@Limb

You mention 6 Russian tanks caught in a minefield? What happened to the other "thousands" that were destroyed according to some mindless idiot?

BTW big cities like Odessa and Kiev are (mostly) left alone by the Russians for now. The reason is simple (apart from saving civilians).
Europe is getting tired of this "war" (BJ lost his job already) and so are the Ukrainian people. The city gates will be opened soon to welcome their Russian liberators.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Gas supplies via Nord Stream stopped from 0700 Moscow time on Monday - data from the pipeline operator

Ouch!!!

Nord stream 2 anyone ?

Annual planned shutdown for maintenance for a couple of weeks. The EU is now using a chunk of stored gas and no doubt praying that Russia restarts the flow, if not ...............

Erk wrote:Zelensky claims a million strong army poised.
https://www.rt.com/russia/558740-ukraine-ready-to-recapture-south/

Why would you announce this publicly, ruin the element of surprise, before you deploy the army?

Perhaps NATO are going to send in troops and pretend they are Ukrainian.

Its nothing but pure BS intended to cheer up the banderite true believers and to keep their Orc slaves fighting. Even Baghdad Bob wouldn't have made such patently ridiculous claims! The Overlords of Ukropistan are in full panic mode and it shows

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine

High-precision long-range sea-launched Kalibr missiles near Radushnoye in Dnepropetrovsk Region have destroyed ammunition depots for HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems, M777 howitzers and 2S7 Pion self-propelled guns supplied to Ukraine by the US.

High-precision ground-based weapons near Chasov Yar in Donetsk People's Republic have destroyed temporary deployment point of 118th Brigade of Territorial Defence of AFU.  The attack has resulted in the elimination of more than 300 nationalists.

As a result of surgical strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the positions of nationalist battalions and foreign mercenaries in Osnovyanskyi and Slobodskoye districts in Kharkov, about 250 militants and up to 25 armoured vehicles have been destroyed.

The enemy suffers significant losses in all directions.

Critical situation in 25th Separate Airborne Brigade of AFU operating near Seversk. Its combat losses amount over 70 per cent of its personnel. Brigade commanders deliberately mislead relatives of the dead soldiers by reporting them as missing or deserting.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces have neutralised command post of 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade near Artemovsk in Donetsk People's Republic, 10 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, including Aidar nationalist battalion near Kharkov, as well as depot where over 200 tonnes of foreign-made anti-tank missile systems and missiles for them were stored.

Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery have neutralised 27 AFU command posts, 53 areas of Ukrainian artillery units at firing positions, as well as 156 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration.

3 ammunition depots near Komsomolskoye and Partizanskoye in Nikolaev Region, as well as 1 Osa AKM anti-aircraft missile system near Seversk have been destroyed.

Su-35s fighter jet of the Russian Aerospace Forces has shot down 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force near Bogatyr in Donetsk People's Republic.

In addition, Russian air defence means shot down 12 rockets of Uragan multiple-launch rocket system near Izyum in Kharkov Region, Novodachnoye, Yubileinoye, Slavyanoserbsk in Lugansk People's Republic, Novaya Kakhovka in Kherson Region and Kherson city.

In total, 243 Ukrainian airplanes and 137 helicopters, 1,506 unmanned aerial vehicles, 354 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,020 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 741 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,132 field artillery and mortars, as well as 4,149 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #report
@mod_russia_en

https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2687

Big_Gazza wrote:

Erk wrote:Zelensky claims a million strong army poised.
https://www.rt.com/russia/558740-ukraine-ready-to-recapture-south/

Why would you announce this publicly, ruin the element of surprise, before you deploy the army?

Perhaps NATO are going to send in troops and pretend they are Ukrainian.

Its nothing but pure BS intended to cheer up the banderite true believers and to keep their Orc slaves fighting. Even Baghdad Bob wouldn't have made such patently ridiculous claims!  The Overlords of Ukropistan are in full panic mode and it shows

Look at this from another perspective.
That would mean, that Russkies fight 5:1 ratio and winning

Why none of this is being reported here ,. by the bullshit all is great for Russian army forums ?


Igor strelkov is reporting Himars are causing major significant losses to Russia ,
storages sites , command centers with precisions..



So let me guess saturation attacks effective to bypass Russian air defenses , who would have guessed?  

Where are those S-400 bullshit records now?  Where the hell are russian air defenses ?

I want to know  , what really happens the losses in both sides.. not propaganda.. not just information to cheerlead one side and minimize the other  . Why the Russian ministry don't deny this claims
of the Himars hit on dozens on Russian fuel and storage sites  

This no longer looks like a one side battle, but the the start of a major Public relations disaster.
because NATO is now saying is going to increase significantly himars supply for Ukraine . and they claiming Himars are destroying left and right Russian supplies and command centers in Donbass.  there is total silence from Russian military of all this claims of the major damages Himars  are causing .  If t his turn to be truth , there should be heads rolling..  

apparently in the map ,the marks on red ,are the dozens of successful strikes of Himars on russian positions in past week  ,smashing russian military with precision.

Map of 30 HIMARS Strikes (July 9)

The map below shows 30 HIMARS strikes on Russian Ammunition Depots, Command Centers, Transportation Hubs, and Oil Depots

Ukrainian Forces received HIMARS MLRS launchers in late June and currently posses at least 8 HIMARS
#UkraineWar #Ukraine

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1545905051721416710?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1545905051721416710%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=



If this is confirmed to be true..  
Then this is major confirmation of how amazing NOT  are russian defenses against Himars missiles..     and this weapons can indeed turn the tide of the war in favor of NATO..
Why is the Russian defense ministry not denying this claims of massive destruction of their storage of fuel and ammo? and command centers? how many generals killed to to himars strikes?
is this is now supposed to be the new normal ?  Dozens of Russian storage sites and command centers destroyed , with generals killed every day  and replace them with new ones?

If this info correct. this could halt entirely the Russian operation... if they continue losing their fuel and ammo depots.. hopefully the amazing silence of the Russian speak , and deny this claims.

Is anyone aware , that artillery can't fight , when the enemy fly their strike drones or combat planes above them ? and strike at them?  Where the hell is russian airforce ?    where are the amazing russian air defenses ? can't intercept himars?

The Russian army destroyed the installation of the latest NATO Brimstone missiles

Ukrainian fighters are launching British missiles from a truck disguised as a civilian.

Russian troops spot the launches, after which the launcher is destroyed by artillery
https://t.me/intelslava/32793