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    Post  11E Sun May 22, 2022 2:00 pm

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    So what's more likely, Ukrainians are good at hiding aircraft, or Russians suck at bombing airports?


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    Sir,
    I really don't know. I think the Ukrainians air force got at least some basics in camouflage and seeing the results and hits of the past months I certainly believe the Russians can bomb effectively.

    Maybe (I'am not an expert in that kind of operations) the Ukr Air Force is operating on non paved runways or highway strips. What I know about MiG-29s is that they have a rugged landing gear with mudguards on the front landing gear and that the main air intake is closed during take of and landing and the air is sucked in from above.

    The Su-24 has a rugged landing gear as well and mudguards. How the air intakes handle unpaved runways I don't know. About the Su-25, there several pictures of them taking off and landing at unpaved runways.  

    If they do this I don't know but it could be an explanation. A single Su-25 hiding in a treeline and taking off from a stretch of highway or grass strip is way more difficult to find than an fixed airfield. Logistically it must be a nightmare because you have to supply fuel, aircraft bombs, ground servicing equipment to every corner of the country.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun May 22, 2022 2:31 pm

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    I believe this 📷 is from Chechnya, during 2 Chechen war.

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    Post  Mir Sun May 22, 2022 2:38 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16  - Page 38 G4lzxd10
    I believe this 📷 is from Chechnya, during 2 Chechen war.

    No it's Bulgarian, but yes all Soviet/Russian aircraft can operate from rough terrain.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun May 22, 2022 2:38 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16  - Page 38 G4lzxd10
    I believe this 📷 is from Chechnya, during 2 Chechen war.

    Looks like a Bulgarian Su-25UB.

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    Post  Hole Sun May 22, 2022 2:55 pm

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    For the members that doubted that the Mi-28/-35 are used in this theater.

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    Post  Hole Sun May 22, 2022 2:56 pm

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    Some good maps.

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    Post  Hole Sun May 22, 2022 2:57 pm

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    Post  Mir Sun May 22, 2022 3:12 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16  - Page 38 010111
    For the members that doubted that the Mi-28/-35 are used in this theater.

    Interesting that they used the training variant but then again it is quite a capable and fully fledged attack helicopter.


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    Post  Regular Sun May 22, 2022 3:13 pm

    Sujoy wrote:After suffering back to back defeats in Afghanistan and Ukraine. After having failed to kill as many people as they wanted to by spreading coronavirus the West (led by U.K) is now spreading a more dangerous bio weapon - monkey pox

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61532083

    Of course the West wants to target Russia with this bio weapon. Russia should seal its borders immediately else the West will use citizens of Asian and African countries to spread this disease in Russia.

    From BBC themselves: "Monkeypox can be spread when someone is in close contact with an infected person. The virus can enter the body through broken skin, or through the eyes, nose or mouth.

    It has not previously been described as a sexually transmitted infection, but it can be passed on by direct contact during sex.

    And the most recent UK cases are in gay or bisexual men which has prompted the UK Health Security Agency to encourage men who have sex with men to be aware of any unusual rashes or lesions."

    Guess what countries will suffer this the most? Sounds a lot like AIDS, many dirty people are at risk.

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    Post  Mir Sun May 22, 2022 3:17 pm

    Regular wrote:
    From BBC themselves: "Monkeypox can be spread when someone is in close contact with an infected person. The virus can enter the body through broken skin, or through the eyes, nose or mouth.

    It has not previously been described as a sexually transmitted infection, but it can be passed on by direct contact during sex.

    And the most recent UK cases are in gay or bisexual men which has prompted the UK Health Security Agency to encourage men who have sex with men to be aware of any unusual rashes or lesions."

    Guess what countries will suffer this the most? Sounds a lot like AIDS, many dirty people are at risk.

    Sounds like some more monkey business to me scratch
    Soon you'll have people lining up for the monkey booster shot...the anal variant.

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    Post  11E Sun May 22, 2022 3:28 pm

    [quote="Regular"]
    Sujoy wrote:After suffering back to back defeats in Afghanistan and Ukraine. After having failed to kill as many people as they wanted to by spreading coronavirus the West (led by U.K) is now spreading a more dangerous bio weapon - monkey pox



    And the most recent UK cases are in gay or bisexual men which has prompted the UK Health Security Agency to encourage men who have sex with men to be aware of any unusual rashes or lesions."

    Guess what countries will suffer this the most? Sounds a lot like AIDS, many dirty people are at risk.

    Good, I'am double protected. One, being from before 1974 I'am already vaccinated against pox and two I'am not in into those freaky sex things.

    I skip the quarantaine and facemask (assmask?) on this one.

    Sincerely
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    Post  Regular Sun May 22, 2022 3:42 pm

    11E wrote:

    Good, I'am double protected. One, being from before 1974 I'am already vaccinated against pox and two I'am not in into those freaky sex things.

    I skip the quarantaine and facemask (assmask?) on this one.

    Sincerely
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    [/quote]

    Sorry, but I spilled my tea after reading this, thank you for a good laugh!

    Also, why I am not surprised that some Ukrainian crazies are already blaming Russia.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-looked-using-monkeypox-biological-27025603

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    Post  lancelot Sun May 22, 2022 5:01 pm

    Regular wrote:Also, why I am not surprised that some Ukrainian crazies are already blaming Russia.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-looked-using-monkeypox-biological-27025603
    "Russia looked into the possibility of using monkeypox as a biological weapon until at least the early 1990s, according to an expert on the subject."

    In other words the Soviet Union had a program on using pox as a biological weapon. Until the early 1990s is basically until the collapse of the Soviet Union. And guess who was also in the Soviet Union. Ukraine. And we know they sent smallpox samples to German labs. Do not know about monkeypox however.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun May 22, 2022 6:01 pm

    LMFS wrote:Threatened species: the German realist  Rolling Eyes

    German general called the supply of Western heavy weapons to Ukraine "meaningless"

    Germany should not supply heavy weapons to Ukraine, it is pointless and dangerous, such a warning was made by the ex-adviser of Angela Merkel, Brigadier General Erich Wad, who had previously called on Berlin to refuse supplies altogether weapons Kiev


    The supply of Western military equipment to Ukraine is meaningless, since this equipment is significantly different from the Soviet one and requires long-term training, and the Ukrainian authorities do not have time for this, Vad said. According to the general, crew training, for example tanks "Leopard" or BMP "Marder" require "long-term training", "weekly training" will not work here. The same applies to other military equipment.

    In addition, by supplying weapons to Ukraine, Germany itself becomes a participant in the conflict, and in the future this may lead to irreparable consequences. Therefore, the general once again called on the German authorities to refuse to supply weapons to Kyiv and focus on peace negotiations with Russia.

    We need to think about the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine from the end. If we do not want a third world war, sooner or later we will have to abandon the military escalation mindset and start negotiations

    - he said.

    Earlier, Vad commented on Kyiv’s numerous statements about the “return of Donbass” by military means, saying that the West underestimates the Russian army, and it is it that now determines the course and direction of hostilities in Ukraine. At the same time, Russia introduced a limited grouping to Ukraine. The general strongly discouraged the Ukrainian General Staff from planning any "decisive counterattacks" against the Russian army, especially with the use of armored vehicles, warning that all this would end in complete defeat, since the Russian army was superior to the Ukrainian army in everything, including weapons.

    https://en.topwar.ru/196631-nemeckij-general-nazval-postavki-zapadnogo-tjazhelogo-vooruzhenija-ukraine-bessmyslennymi.html

    Some high-up (mb Lavrov) mentioned that with the election of Scholz, Germany has lost what remained of its sovereignty

    Which makes sense. He is a total non-entity, and hardly popular even amongst his own parliamentary coalition - he's not capable of giving anyone what they want. Not even of a hard-line against Russia for some parties, anti-business policies for other parties. But that's just what happens when your chancellor and all major political parties are neo-con compliant.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun May 22, 2022 6:10 pm

    One of the few types of missiles that has not yet been used in a special military operation is the 9M370 Burevestnik..

    It will not be used, of course, because it is a nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed missile.
    All 7 weapons systems that Putin first mentioned in March 2018 have already entered operational use or will enter soon. In use ; Avangard hypersonic maneuverable nuclear warhead, H47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic air-launched missile, S-500 "Prometheus", laser weapon "Peresvet". The "Poseidon" nuclear torpedo will soon join them this year, when the submarine K-329 "Belgorod" will be handed over on the Day of the Russian Navy. As for the RS-28 "Sarmat", everything is clear and that heavy ICBM missile is sure to enter operational use. The only weapon that Putin did not mention at the time was the 3M22 "Zircon", which is also close to operational status. Only "Burevestnik" remains ..

    So, all that remains is for "Burevestnik" to hit Ukraine. Just kidding...


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    Post  caveat emptor Sun May 22, 2022 6:22 pm

    We don't even know current status of Burevestnik. Very little news about that one.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun May 22, 2022 6:26 pm

    Losing money is no proof they are not blocking the ports themselves... they block gas supplies and lose millions in gas transit fees too...When you are in an actual war with a country then destroying the resources they can use against you is a no brainer.
    Russia would be stupid not imposing a blockade- exports bring extra $ & heavy arms can be imported by sea. Ukraine doesn't block gas supplies- the RF cut them off only after her $ were frozen in the West & for non-payment. Now buyers must deposit $ or euros in special accounts Russian banks & convert them to rubles to pay for any Russian exports.
    The Russian Empire created its own new reality by making ruble a de-facto hard currency. Oil & gas r black & blue gold!
    From posted pics, it looks like Mi-24/35s r used as convoy escorts, not for ground attack; in this air show, Ka-52 is the star now.
    The RF officially calls this campaign "special mil. operation", not a war, but ideally it should be called local limited preventive war.

    good assesment on Su-57 in special mil. operation: https://life.ru/p/1495593


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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun May 22, 2022 6:35 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:We don't even know current status of Burevestnik. Very little news about that one.

    I agree on that, although it is not impossible for that nuclear powered missile to reach operational status in the future. But well, that's another topic. Everything is already used in Ukraine except "zircon". The use of "burevestnik" would in any case be excluded in a special military operation.

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    Post  thegopnik Sun May 22, 2022 7:17 pm

    The akinci and mius drone spec wise on wiki appear amazing, sadly their engines were to come from Ukraine, lol
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun May 22, 2022 8:23 pm

    Ramsey Kadyrov as a bus driver going to Grozny lol1 lol1 lol1
    Azov criminals first saying no Mariuopl no Ukjroine, then begging then even asking the Pope then just being carried to Grozny ")


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    Post  Kiko Sun May 22, 2022 8:46 pm

    In addition to identify and expose high-ranking NATO officers among the ordinary disguised Ukr POWs, the hardest task shall be with the ordinary merc-disguised ones. Unless Russia's GRU has a full list of military high-ranking officers of all NATO countries.

    It would be a great victory for allied forces if they were detected, identified and exposed.

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    Post  Ispan Sun May 22, 2022 9:22 pm


    Narrative of the past 48 hours, not much happening, possibly because of censorship, consolidation, regrouping, moving up artillery and ammunition, but combats go on and the Severodonetsk pocket is taking form

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/22/noticias-de-la-guerra-22-05-2022/

    Also a short entry on artillery and Western weapons for Ukraine, food for thought

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/22/armas-occidentales-para-ucrania-artilleria-mejorada/

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