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    Post  Hinex1988 Mon May 02, 2022 6:58 pm

    MoD Russia, [5/2/2022 11:27 PM]
    🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

    ▫The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

    💥High-precision air-based missiles have hit 36 Ukrainian military assets during the day.

    ▫Among them: 5 command and control posts, including the battalion command and control posts of the 95th Airborne Assault and 81st Airmobile Brigade; 25 strong points, areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, including Aydar Nazi formation near Aleksandrovka; 1 missile-artillery arms and ammunition depot near Pokrovskoe in Dnepropetrovsk Region has been destroyed.

    ▫4 S-300 missile launchers and 1 reconnaissance and targeting radar have been also destroyed near Mezhevaya.

    ✈💥Operational-tactical and army aviation of the Russian Aerospace Force have hit 13 strong points and areas of concentration of AFU manpower and military equipment.

    💥During the day, missile troops have hit 4 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 2 command posts, including 1 command post of the Ukrainian 93rd Mechanized Brigade near Podalovka.

    💥Artillery units have hit 2 command posts, 8 artillery batteries, 12 strongholds and 28 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration.

    ▫Up to 170 nationalists, as well as 36 units of weapons and military equipment have been destroyed.

    💥Russian air defence means have shot down 3 Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles near Zmeinyi Island.

    ▫4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehickes have been also shot down near Chervonyi Oskol and Nevskoe in Kharkov Region, as well as Vesyoloe in Donetsk People's Republic.

    ▫In addition, 5 Smerch rockets have been intercepted near Izyum, Topolskoe and Malaya Kamyshevakha.

    📊In total, 146 aircraft and 112 helicopters, 690 unmanned aerial vehicles, 285 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2,760 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 316 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,236 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,578 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

    #MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
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    Post  diabetus Mon May 02, 2022 7:08 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    What really pisses me off is that that bridges on Dnepr are still standing. Just today, according to Rybar, at Lozovaya another 7 SPG was delivered from the west. Granted ,maybe they didn't come from the west of Dnepr, but isolating everything east of Dnepr will speed up demise of Ukr army in Donbas. Diesel and ammunition will become very scarce. It is a no brainer. I really have a problem understanding logic behind some of the decisions.

    The problem is that if you drop all the bridges and roads etc then Kiev will start whining about Holomodor II... Russians trying to starve Ukrainians again...

    If the bridges were militarily significant, if effective and powerful weapons were moving forward in bulk then of course they would drop them or at least damage them... but the fact of the matter is that without Leopard Is and M113s a lot of the Orc forces are going to stay in their bunkers... send them these vehicles and load them up with Orc meat and drive towards the enemy... they will be trivial to destroy and max range... the Orcs wont even see what hit them and all the supporting troops moving forward with the armour will be taken out by air power and artillery... the result is getting Orcs killed faster and showing western support for what it is... just accelerating the deaths of Ukrainians.
    Sorry Garry, but that botched logic will not work. According to Rybar just in two nights of April 30 and May 1, Ukrainians managed to tramsport around 2000 new soldiers and 50 units of various tech. 
    Aside from local counterattacks Ukrainians are not changing tactics and most of their forces are on defense or use hit and run and ambush tactics. 
    They don't show any willingness to go on offensive and talks about one are mostly used in propaganda purposes. Your wishful thinking of them attacking amd getting destroyed is just that. I'm thinling that US is planning their operations and that they are showed more than willing to protract this conflict as long as possible and make Russians bleed.
    Russians dexision makers succumbing to new Holodomor bs used for propaganda purposes, would be another victory for Ukraine in psychological warfare.  
    Your claim that bridges are maybe not militarily significant in a country that's crossed by major river with multiple dams, i will not comment. 
    Almost always ,in war, military is not only one that makes decisions. And many times military and politicians views clash. I believe this is one case of that. Instead of isolating to a largest possible degree Donbas and East Ukrainian groupings and destroying them easier, you allow them to replenish and bring fresh troops while increasing death toll and losses of your soldiers is a "3D chess", i don't want to even try to understand or justify.  
    Dancing around and playing "high moral ground" shtick has produced some really bad results in Ukraine so far.




    The "high moral ground" is an excuse for the so-called "Russians" who are either partially or fully of ethnic Ukrainian origin, protecting their really own people.


    Too bad that those whining ethnic Ukrainians do not care about such considerations with regard to other ethnicities/nationalities:

    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html




    Putin himself is responsible for many of the bad decisions.

    He has been a Ukrainophile until recently, perhaps he still is?


    How come the major grouping of the Ukrainian forces west of the Donbas has not been carpet bombed?





    because artillery is available.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 02, 2022 8:43 pm

    Hinex1988 wrote:MoD Russia, [5/2/2022 11:27 PM]
    🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

    💥Russian air defence means have shot down 3 Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles near Zmeinyi Island.


    Interesting that they are still using their TB-2 out at sea. Must have been important with 3 out at Snake Island.

    Still got shot down. Functioning as suicide drones Laughing Laughing

    EDIT Just found this

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    Post  Isos Mon May 02, 2022 9:07 pm

    Why no S-400/pantsir on that island yet ?

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    Post  psg Mon May 02, 2022 9:16 pm

    Seen pictures of that airbase in odessa, where those tb2 was operating from, yesterday and today got kalibrated, but looking at the pics on telegram you can clearly see a whole bunch of mig29's parked up. They need to be hit ASAP plus beskid tunnels, the bridge in odessa which was previously hit, got struck again, this time it is destroyed.

    A few tor m2 and some panstir s2, with s300/s400 should be set up there. Area denial.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 02, 2022 9:33 pm

    Sad but inevitable

    02.05.2022, Donetsk.

    Dozens of human bodies were found under the rubble of the Mariupol drama theater building, head of the Donetsk People’s Republic Denis Pushylin said at a briefing in Donetsk on May 2, the Donetsk News Agency (DAN) reported.

    Pushilin said that he hoped very much that reports of numerous victims of the explosion of the theater building were untrue, but that “several dozen bodies have already been found. The removal of the rubble continues.”

    He said that unexploded shells and “a number of other technical issues” are making it difficult to remove the rubble. Pushilin told journalists that employees of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Donetsk People’s Republic and employees of the Investigative Committee of Russia are currently working at the site.

    The building of the Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theater in Mariupol was completely destroyed in mid-March as a result of its explosion committed by Ukrainian Nazis. The Nazis had organized one of their strongholds with firing points in this building, where the militants of the Azov battalion had also gathered and forcibly detained civilians. According to reports, several hundred civilians may have been in a bomb shelter built under the theater building.

    Source: Rossa Primavera News Agency

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon May 02, 2022 9:48 pm

    Holy effing sh*t.

    I didn't realize how messed up the "infowar" situation actually was until just now. Went and bought myself a new phone the other day, and fired it up now. Was immediately blasted by "news headlines" from stock apps of Russians killing and raping everything in their way, stealing everything they get their hands on etc.

    So that's what the average euro is being told, apparently.

    Just wow.


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    Post  lyle6 Mon May 02, 2022 9:50 pm

    psg wrote:Seen pictures of that airbase in odessa, where those tb2 was operating from, yesterday and today got kalibrated, but looking at the pics on telegram you can clearly see a whole bunch of mig29's parked up. They need to be hit ASAP plus beskid tunnels, the bridge in odessa which was previously hit, got struck again, this time it is destroyed.

    A few tor m2 and some panstir s2, with s300/s400 should be set up there. Area denial.

    Empty planes are just piles of Aluminium. Blow them up they'd just get more.

    They want to get the planes with the pilots inside. Far harder to replace flesh and blood and decades of training.

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    Post  VARGR198 Mon May 02, 2022 10:03 pm

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon May 02, 2022 10:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Hinex1988 wrote:MoD Russia, [5/2/2022 11:27 PM]
    🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

    💥Russian air defence means have shot down 3 Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles near Zmeinyi Island.


    Interesting that they are still using their TB-2 out at sea. Must have been important with 3 out at Snake Island.

    Still got shot down. Functioning as suicide drones  Laughing  Laughing

    EDIT Just found this


    As I said earlier today. Militarily irrelevant target, and 2 million dollars wasted, but Twitter likes etc, and Kiev isn't paying anyway.

    If NATO countries paid ISIS for... Oh wait, they did.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon May 02, 2022 10:21 pm

    Bayraktar company needs any sign of success.

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    Post  Hole Mon May 02, 2022 10:23 pm

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    Odessa victims, 8 years ago.
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    Post  Hole Mon May 02, 2022 10:25 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Bayraktar company needs any sign of success.

    Looks more like the simulator program struck again.

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    Post  franco Mon May 02, 2022 10:48 pm

    When did they update the National Guard totals last? Seem to be stuck...
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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 02, 2022 11:05 pm

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    How many more bridges are there?

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    Below for illustration where the North bank of the Seversky Donetk is (blue line). Russia want's to control the whole area towards the Seversy Donets. Ukrainian forces blew up a bridge towards Slavyansk from Liman, they can't be resupplied and the forces will be stuck.
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    Post  kvs Mon May 02, 2022 11:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Sad but inevitable

    02.05.2022, Donetsk.

    Dozens of human bodies were found under the rubble of the Mariupol drama theater building, head of the Donetsk People’s Republic Denis Pushylin said at a briefing in Donetsk on May 2, the Donetsk News Agency (DAN) reported.


    Nobody asks what civilians were doing in the building in the middle of a free fire zone.   Were they watching a play or something?
    Not bloody likely and are proof that Azov murdered them for propaganda theater.

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    Post  franco Mon May 02, 2022 11:41 pm

    Mercenaries in Ukraine: 5 categories of "soldiers of fortune" in the "square"

    On February 27, Ukrainian President Zelensky officially announced the recruitment of volunteers for the Foreign Legion created in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. A special website was created in English, where everyone could apply. A transit point for mercenaries was created in Lvov. According to the press service of the Lviv administration, they received over twenty thousand applications.

    According to Major General Konashenkov , today more than seven thousand mercenaries from 63 countries of the world, from America to Sudan, are operating in Ukraine.

    A whole legion. According to the forecasts of Russian experts, the US has already spent more than $11 million just on the maintenance of American "soldiers of fortune" (there are more than three hundred of them in Ukraine according to the most conservative estimates). The costs, of course, fell on the American budget.

    According to Konashenkov, more than a thousand of them have already died in battles. These are only those whose corpse is documented. About a hundred, according to some information, were captured and became "clients" of the Investigative Committee, where they give lengthy interviews with varying degrees of sincerity. Over a thousand went missing (most likely, they found their last shelter in Ukrainian collective graves).

    The rest are still doing energetic jogging through the forests and fields of Ukraine to the invigorating accompaniment of Russian artillery.

    Ukraine seems to have become a real vacuum cleaner for "wild geese" from all over the world. And they supply this human material for disposal in the “square” dozens of large private military companies. The largest of them are the infamous and widely known American ones.

    Black Water and Black Water Security Consulting (recently renamed Academy). This is actually the second army of America, which also includes its own Foreign Legion. The number of employees of the company is kept secret, but according to data slipping in the American press, it ranges from half a million to seven hundred and fifty thousand people.

    Black Water was organized by retired high-ranking military men, and the company is the main counterparty of the Pentagon. The range of services - from advice on the purchase of weapons to the planning of military operations and the protection of ships and airbuses. And, of course, the recruitment of "wild geese" for work in all countries of the world.

    England has its own no less famous PMC - G4S. It is located in the city of Crawley. The company's branches are registered in 125 countries.

    These two companies (not counting hundreds of smaller ones) are now rowing mercenaries around the world to be sent to Ukraine. All of them were "strongly recommended" to focus not on the professionalism of recruits, but on the mass character. This is cheaper, and society is freed from unnecessary "passionaries", and, according to recruiters, it drags out the conflict in Ukraine itself. And this is the strategic goal of suppliers of live goods.

    The wages of the future “wild geese” also fell sharply. If earlier the "issue price" of intellectual mercenaries who can work with high-tech weapons reached $2,000 a day, then mercenaries without experience can be rented for $500. And even without insurance. For countries with a low standard of living and rampant unemployment, this is quite decent money, so there is no end to those who wish.

    In the same Latin America, a whole line of local unemployed, drug addicts, fugitives from justice, outright gangsters and other "cream of society" sometimes line up at G4S recruiting points.

    Some socially dangerous characters go to the bunk immediately after recruitment - as soon as they leave the company office. This is especially practiced by local "pinkertons" in Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela. Here, detectives constantly hang out in queues, periodically pulling out of them and “packing” the next catch into the company car. Because of this, mass fights with shooting periodically break out in the queues, but, as a rule, more experienced detectives who work with the skill of bouncers in a nightclub win. As a result, the local prison is enriched with another "valuable personnel", and Ukraine is deprived of another mercenary.

    All mercenaries are divided into several psychotypes.

    First. Revelation of criminals who decided to change the concrete hotel for army bunks. Their logic is as simple as a shot. Maybe you'll be lucky. And I'll wriggle out of the teeth of justice, and earn extra money.

    Type two. Professional military. Depending on the situation, they have to change their disguise and perform the same functions as in the army, only as part of irregular military units. They work as instructors for local warriors - when you need to master complex equipment, but most often they are engaged in command and staff activities - they develop military operations, supervise the activities of sabotage and reconnaissance groups. Sometimes they directly command military formations - when local officers drop out in battles.

    Such mercenaries in officer uniforms are now languishing in the rat holes of Azovstal. Moreover, among them there are, according to some sources, generals. And it is for them that high-ranking European officials are fighting with such persistence.

    Category three - classic "wild geese", dogs of war. For the most part, these are either former officers or sergeants. They have two motives for becoming "wild geese". These are people, as a rule, either dismissed to the reserve by seniority, or for any offenses - fights, abuse of power, sexual harassment, endless AWOL, "flights" in the service or outright racism. But, being expelled from the army, they suddenly realized that the army is their life. And war is generally their element. Again, for two reasons. The first is an acute unwillingness to work in civilian life. It turns out to be hard, dull, monotonous work. You can, of course, get into crime, "bank" drugs, rob banks and arrange street shootouts with rival gangs - this is much more exciting. But this business is fraught with a quick landing in a "concrete hotel". The second reason is the emotional and adrenaline addiction to shooting, running around, jumping, ambushes, fast chases and equally quick retreats. You do what you love, and you get paid for it.

    The fourth category is people who simply really need money. And urgently. Were mired in debts, loans and some financial obligations. And mercenaries were always, everywhere and at all times well paid. Except, perhaps, the Ukrainian case.

    Recently, another fifth category has appeared - selfie mercenaries. They choose places where it is not too hot, take a lot of brutal selfies in military uniforms and with all kinds of weapons, and then at the first opportunity they break the contract and return home. And sometimes they stay to serve - if there is no special shooting and upheavals.

    A significant part of the "wild geese" are sadists who like to mock defenseless civilians.

    There are sexual perverts. Unfortunately, there are enough of them in Ukraine. Ukrainian women are known halfway around the world for their beauty and sexuality, and tired of their unsightly beefy women, sometimes causing not sexual attraction, but dumbfounded, turning into a stupor, the British and Americans are rushing to the “square” in search of sharp sexual impressions. Some people end up marrying local girls. By the way, the wives of the British captured in Mariupol were local Ukrainians.

    And more recently, ideological Russophobes have appeared among the mercenaries with their brains dislocated by xenophobia from hatred of everything Russian. Their life motto, blue dream and lifelong credo is to kill Russians. These are in the mass people with a heavy historical memory and a bitter legacy of past grievances - Croats, Poles, Latvians, Georgians and Lithuanians.

    But Ukraine meets them unkindly. In the same Yavorovo, according to the recollections of the “wild geese”, covid and unsanitary conditions are rampant. The food is out of the ordinary. And recently, the training ground was chosen by the Russian "Caliber". The last volley claimed, according to various estimates, from 50 to 200 lives "who came to the war."

    In the Ukrainian army, they are treated accordingly. Ukrainians are well aware of why and for what purpose the “soldiers of fortune” came to them. And in another situation, they could easily be on the other side of the barricades. In addition, mercenaries do not shine with courage and leave the battlefield at the first opportunity. They came here for money, not for their own death. This causes acute irritation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are ready to shoot them in the back.

    In Mariupol, a Turkish mercenary who decided to surrender to the Russians was shot, and the corpse was thrown into a trash can. Symbolically. Many more foreign lovers of banknotes smelling of gunpowder and blood will have to end their lives in the garbage heap - literally and figuratively.

    https://svpressa-ru.translate.goog/war21/article/333119/?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon May 02, 2022 11:48 pm

    kvs wrote:
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    caveat emptor wrote:I believe that destruction of forces in East Ukraine would be a final blow. It would completely destroy the morale of the remaining troops and reservists. Most of the troops in the East are best trained, with most experience. Almost all nationalist battalions are in Donbas and around Kharkov.

    As long as the regime is getting paid they will  try to fight. For show, at least. But the quality of the troops is getting lower and lower, which means the Russian Forces will achieve their goals easier and with less casualties while the casualties on the side of the Wehrmacht will skyrocket.

    I think NATzO and its Kiev stooges are planning to organize a NATzO supported army in western Ukraine.   I was initially
    convinced that the LNDR cauldron would be the last stand but I now agree more with Mercouris and his South Vietnam
    comparison.   This goes together with the analysis that the Kiev regime is not using its best forces in the east.
    So there is no clear progression to more poorly trained Ukr soldiers.    Other analysts think that Poland will intervene.
    This would be consistent.
    Do you mind telling me what are those best units? As fas as I'm aware, in Donbas we currently have 81st,93rd,25 th, 54th,79th, 24th brigades. I'm not sure where 95th from Zhytomir is, but those are some of the best units with extensive battlefield experience since 2014. Also, most of the neonazi units like Aidar, Donbas and Azov are there.


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    Post  limb Mon May 02, 2022 11:59 pm

    Why didn't the Russian generals order the destruction of  all large rail bridges on the dnepr? Apparently there are many functioning ones and the Ukrainians are still bringing reinforcements from the west through them. What would happen if Russia tried to destroy the rail tunnels in Transcarpathia ?

    Also what's the reason that the Russian air force is only launching 200  sorties per day?

    How do Ukrainian saboteurs pass through the Russian border too?


    Look at this pristine Ukrainian tunnel that is the transit point for western weapons for 3 months now. The Russian generals are very merciful and don't seem to care.

    https://t.me/epoddubny/10286?single

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    Post  franco Tue May 03, 2022 12:09 am

    JohninMK wrote:
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    How many more bridges are there?

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    Below for illustration where the North bank of the Seversky Donetk is (blue line). Russia want's to control the whole area towards the Seversy Donets. Ukrainian forces blew up a bridge towards Slavyansk from Liman, they can't be resupplied and the forces will be stuck.

    A trip up the river via google map reveals 2 bridges around Sviatohirs'k and another at Studenok.

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    Post  limb Tue May 03, 2022 12:24 am

    I pray that Kharkov is taken by September.
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    Post  Erk Tue May 03, 2022 1:56 am

    limb wrote:Why didn't the Russian generals order the destruction of  all large rail bridges on the dnepr? Apparently there are many functioning ones and the Ukrainians are still bringing reinforcements from the west through them. What would happen if Russia tried to destroy the rail tunnels in Transcarpathia ?

    Also what's the reason that the Russian air force is only launching 200  sorties per day?

    How do Ukrainian saboteurs pass through the Russian border too?


    Look at this pristine Ukrainian tunnel that is the transit point for western weapons for 3 months now. The Russian generals are very merciful and don't seem to care.

    https://t.me/epoddubny/10286?single
    You better get on to the Russian military right away and tell them what to do, they obviously haven't read the NYT about only 200 sorties per day, and don't know about the bridge and tunnel.

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    Post  kvs Tue May 03, 2022 2:30 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    Do you mind telling me what are those best units? As fas as I'm aware, in Donbas we currently have 81st,93rd,25 th, 54th,79th, 24th brigades. I'm not sure where 95th from Zhytomir is, but those are some of the best units with extensive battlefield experience since 2014. Also, most of the neonazi units like Aidar, Donbas and Azov are there.

    The quality of the troops being taken prisoner in the east since March has been less than "the best". We are informed about
    the brigade designation but that is not proof that the composition is the original one. It is not credible that the Ukr troops
    around Kiev are all third rate. Same goes for the Nikolaev-Odessa region.

    The Kiev regime is not throwing its best forces into the cauldron. It had some of them there initially but filled out with lower
    grade troops. Even if the LDNR cauldron is boiled off, it still has substantial forces (around 100,000) that it can assemble
    in the west. NATzO planners must be preparing the Kiev regime for a second round and with direct support. Otherwise
    the war is over before the end of summer.

    The Nikolaev-Odessa operation will not be a cakewalk.

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