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    Post  Serberus Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:38 pm

    Erk wrote:
    mavaff wrote:...
    Putin fresh new order:

    Putin ordered to cancel the assault on Azovstal in order to save the lives of Russian military personnel, as well as completely block the enterprise.

    "There is no need to climb into the catacombs, it is necessary to block the industrial zone in Azovstal so that the fly does not fly


    M....
    Starve them out, the Russians would want to make sure there are no tunnels running away from the site.

    The right decision imo, no sense in losing men to a pointless assault on an enemy with nowhere to go.
    If its true there are 2000 or so left, how much water and food could they possibly still have , even if rationed?

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:54 pm

    I guess that was the point.
    Some of the prisoners taken there stated that Azov stripped the regular army from all the supplies they had there.
    Asked why they have not resisted - the answer was that they are much more heavily armed if compare to regular army units.
    And some claimed that water supply is already very low, plus they seem to lack a fresh supply there.
    Mix some concrete, leave one exit only, and wait ...

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:05 pm

    The big topics in the forums about the operation in Ukraine:


    The sinking of the Moskva.
    Russia's mistakes in this war.

    Regarding the ship, I already said that it would be convenient to wait until we have more verifiable information, before continuing to speculate with mines, drones, anti-ship missiles and others.
    With regard to Russia's mistakes, it should be noted that a few weeks ago they published a news story stating that one of the causes of the operation was that they had information about the Ukrainian preparations to attack Donbas.
    It is logical to think that there was also information about the Ukrainian forces: training, weapons, distribution, fortifications, etc, etc.
    To state that "they encountered more resistance than expected" is something that does not add up.
    We know what the issue of the networks is like: rumors or directly invented information are thrown around and thousands of "keyboard soldiers" jump to repeat them like a parrot.
    Sometimes, many are confused thinking that knowing the qualities of the different weapons makes them "military experts".
    It is not like this.
    You have to have a bit of analytical skills and not be left with "information" served on a platter.
    That leads to making mistakes.

    Luckily, those who manage the Operation in Ukraine are not outsiders, but TRUE MILITARY.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:21 pm

    Point is plan B is going well

    Everyone knows that plan A failed

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    Post  Giulio Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:29 pm

    But, if I correctly understood the situation, the A plan failed because of Ukrainian decision to go ahead and not so much for a Russian "failure". So, by now, I think it would have been better for the Ukrainians to have allowed the Russian plan A to succeed. In my opinion.

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    Post  Sujoy Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:44 pm


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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:00 pm

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:03 pm

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    Post  franco Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:12 pm

    sepheronx wrote:So propaganda is being spread to my own children regarding the conflict in Ukraine.  I have posted about it in the western propaganda thread.  I would appreciate if some individuals could help me obtain information with links so I can pen a response to my childs school to tell them their cheap propaganda will not be tolerated.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8723p125-western-propaganda-2#377082

    Good luck with that. Our country is completely under the control of the neofacist liberals (for lack of a better word). Not only do they don't know, they don't want to nor do they care. The truth is what our leaders decide it will be and all other viewpoints put you into the "cancel club". I have 4 grown children plus 7 grandchildren and I was told the other day that I needed to get with the mainstream on Ukraine... truly there are "zombies" out there and they are the vast majority of our society. Sad really!

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:31 pm

    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:So propaganda is being spread to my own children regarding the conflict in Ukraine.  I have posted about it in the western propaganda thread.  I would appreciate if some individuals could help me obtain information with links so I can pen a response to my childs school to tell them their cheap propaganda will not be tolerated.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8723p125-western-propaganda-2#377082

    Good luck with that. Our country is completely under the control of the neofacist liberals (for lack of a better word). Not only do they don't know, they don't want to nor do they care. The truth is what our leaders decide it will be and all other viewpoints put you into the "cancel club". I have 4 grown children plus 7 grandchildren and I was told the other day that I needed to get with the mainstream on Ukraine... truly there are "zombies" out there and they are the vast majority of our society. Sad really!

    Same here in the Amerikkkan Reich. The good news is that I can always bring up Iraq and similar moral failings on the part of the political establishment here and those cannot be discounted. A lot of people, not the majority, but a lot of people, see Ukraine for what it is a scam where a tragedy is being used to make Wall Street and the MIC money.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:46 pm

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    Post  0nillie0 Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:49 pm

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    Good to see upgraded BMP-3 in use. Some addon armor would be nice though, like fitted on the ones for Iraq.

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    Post  zorobabel Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:16 pm

    RU forces ambushing a Ukrainian patrol

    https://t.me/milinfolive/81648

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    Post  RTN Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:19 pm

    Low IQ Shoigu back from the dead and giving his half baked advice. This fellow was never in the military. Just an ordinary Putin henchman.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:27 pm

    Serberus wrote:

    The right decision imo,  no sense in losing men to a pointless assault on an enemy with nowhere to go.
    If its true there are 2000 or so left, how much water and food could they possibly still have , even if rationed?

    I got people said that they will attack Russian forces for supplies, but well they didnt say anything about what to do when attrition happens, not all of their raid will be successfull. Let alone if Ukrainie can "liberate" these people.

    Kweires Airbase in Syria was besieged for full year yet Russians and Syrian forces can still resupply them from air and they apparently still have flyable MiG-21's.

    But anyway clearly people cheering Ukraine will glorify Azov battalion for "holding out".

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    Post  Serberus Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:34 pm

    RTN wrote:Low IQ Shoigu back from the dead and giving his half baked advice. This fellow was never in the military. Just an ordinary Putin henchman.

    Based on the content of your comments, you are well versed in what qualifies as a low IQ.

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    Post  Sujoy Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:45 pm

    H I Sutton states in his blog that there is "strong circumstantial evidence" that russian submarines are launching cruise missiles at Ukraine

    http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Submarines-Launching-Missiles-Ukraine.html

    But Klub missiles launched from Russian subs especially in the Black Sea will probably have to fly over NATO airspace.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:56 pm

    Sujoy wrote:H I Sutton states in his blog that there is "strong circumstantial evidence" that russian submarines are launching cruise missiles at Ukraine

    http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Submarines-Launching-Missiles-Ukraine.html

    But Klub missiles launched from Russian subs especially in the Black Sea will probably have to fly over NATO airspace.

    No, how it needs to cross NATO airspace ? There is already like 2 Kalibr capable Kilo boats in black sea.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:17 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    par far wrote:Gonzalo Lira was murdered RIP.

    He had chances to get out, he should have taken them.

    This puts the limelight on people like Patrick Lancaster, this is a very dangerous thing now.

    "Our information has been confirmed.  The journalist was killed by Nemichev's volunteer battalion."

    https://t.me/intelslava/26133

    I believe this Nemichev unit was responsible for the Russian soldiers torture as well. Hopefully these assholes are taken out.

    There is no evidence for GL having being murdered other than Kiev psy-ops tool Botzman's (or whatever his name is) mocking tweet and Scott Ritter's supposition based on it

    All we know is that he's missing for 5 days now

    The most likely scenario is that he was kidnapped by them and will be held for the duration of the war, but I doubt they'd dare to murder a citizen of their master the USA.

    U think neo Nazi's don't kill civilians? U think neo Nazis don't kill foreign citizens? When I was in Kiev in 2014 neo Nazi's chucked two Indian students in front of the metro train. I wasn't witness to it but I was walking down the steps to the metro when police told us the station was closed, the news reported the incident. Now if they can do this in normal day to day life then during war they can do far worse. And do u think USA cares one bit about this pro Russian journalist?


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:21 pm

    Aerospace Forces aviation destroyed 73 military facilities in Ukraine during the day
    https://ria.ru/20220420/ukraina-1784578629.html

    if this is daily so how many hundreds more it still to be destroyed?


    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:H I Sutton states in his blog that there is "strong circumstantial evidence" that russian submarines are launching cruise missiles at Ukraine


    But Klub missiles launched from Russian subs especially in the Black Sea will probably have to fly over NATO airspace.

    No, how it needs to cross NATO airspace ? There is already like 2 Kalibr capable Kilo boats in black sea.

    You dont get it, the whole Black sea is NATO airspace Very Happy BTW RN can also let sub crews to get more experience with launching subCalibrs, why not?

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:23 pm

    sepheronx wrote:...I decided against it. But I will make sure to keep an eye on it. I dont want to get my child or myself into trouble.

    Just explain things to her yourself and tell her that she can ignore that nonsense at school

    If anyone tries to give her a test or a grade connected to that make sure she knows that she is free to ignore it or flunk it

    Only thing that matters is that she knows that she has your personal blessing to get an F in that case

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:28 pm

    ALAMO wrote:I have one thought concerning this wishlist.

    Still about 6.3mln 25 mm ammo.
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