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    Post  ludovicense Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:11 pm

    Prof Zenkus
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    BREAKING: Zelensky asks for $7 billion a month in aid.

    Oh hell fvcking no.


    ...................

    The black hole is now coming in the form of increasing extortion from Zelensky and his gang: Not long ago he was asking for 5 billion a month.
    The account grows non-stop. Let's see where this ends up.

    But one thing I'm sure: a good part of that money will not reach the tip. Many came out rich with him.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:12 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:
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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13 - Page 20 Fq9d1i10
    Cool


    Gotta love that upgrade to the BMP-1. Great fairly cheap way to make the ifv more effective since the hull is basicly (as far as I am aware) unchanged.

    Cheap battlefield taxi. Same firepower as the BTR-82A. Maybe they could add some extra protection in a second upgrade.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:23 pm

    Hole wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13 - Page 20 Fq9d1i10
    Cool


    Gotta love that upgrade to the BMP-1. Great fairly cheap way to make the ifv more effective since the hull is basicly (as far as I am aware) unchanged.

    Cheap battlefield taxi. Same firepower as the BTR-82A. Maybe they could add some extra protection in a second upgrade.

    Something like a mix of spaced and plate armor.

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    Post  0nillie0 Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:25 pm

    Hole wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Cool


    Gotta love that upgrade to the BMP-1. Great fairly cheap way to make the ifv more effective since the hull is basicly (as far as I am aware) unchanged.

    Cheap battlefield taxi. Same firepower as the BTR-82A. Maybe they could add some extra protection in a second upgrade.

    Any somewhat meaningfull upgrade in armor will screw up the buoyancy and likely remove amphibious capability completely, while also reducing overall mobility. They could add cheap RPG screens but are they really that effective?
    Better to upgrade more BMP-2 with Berezhok and more BMP-3 with new sights.


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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:25 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
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    mnztr wrote:Anyone notice Medvedevs  political rehabilitation? He has been on TV a lot .

    People keep forgetting that he was the president when Russia stomped Georgia and it took Putin coming back from Beiling to get him to cool off and not roll into Tbilsi

    Dmitry is crazy


    Exactly. People don't understand that Medvedev is more hard liner than Putin and probably more effective leader overall. There is an overfixation with Putin but truth is, although Putin succeeded in low hanging fruits and although he is a very decent character, never exceeded expectations.

    Funny how the general opinion about him is exactly the opposite.
    Including the Ossetian perspective, where they openly (a president of SO) claim that Dima's inability to make decisions cost lives and delayed the operation by 24h.
    The question in being is, if he was restricted with decision making by the Putin, or his own character - but the fact remains.
    On another occasion, he was typed on a meeting with Obama, whispering that "everything will be provided to the boss, and he will make a decision", so that speaks much for itself.




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    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia




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    Post  VARGR198 Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:29 pm

    Hole wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13 - Page 20 Fq9d1i10
    Cool


    Gotta love that upgrade to the BMP-1. Great fairly cheap way to make the ifv more effective since the hull is basicly (as far as I am aware) unchanged.

    Cheap battlefield taxi. Same firepower as the BTR-82A. Maybe they could add some extra protection in a second upgrade.

    Don't think they would uparmor it though. High mobility and ability to ford rivers seems more important to Russian IFVs and APCs. They also do have some heavier armored vehicles for if they need them such as the Terminator and the Armata T15

    Changing just the turret probably makes this upgrade more affordable and interesting for foreign BMP-1 operators.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:37 pm



    Hole wrote " Why should they be allowed to keep Odessa? They could still trade, they will just have to pay customs fees , " well we have to consider all possibilities and variables , where the belligerent sides , maximise / minimise variables , including military strength . Therefore under worst conditions , hostilities will bring about a situation , where access to ports or water resources are curtailed . In these conditions then , the only remaining solution becomes war again . However by being strategic in our thinking , no side , by resorting to war , has easy route to exterminate the other . The Ukrainians can not ( easily ) build Dams , without Russians approval , since Russians are next to River . And Russians can not ( easily ) stop trade by Ukraine , through Odessa , since they are far away from it .
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    Post  par far Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:39 pm

    "I have very bad news for Ukraine. It turns out that the land corridor to the Crimea, the goals of control over which were announced today in our Defense Ministry, is Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Melitopol, Kherson region.

    Also, the second goal of the operation includes a corridor to Transnistria, i.e. Kherson region, Nikolaev and Odessa. Together with the cities."

    https://t.me/intelslava/26436?single

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    Post  par far Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:41 pm

    "Ukr tried to knock out our tank, but in a second he received an answer."


    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/44368

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    Post  par far Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:46 pm

    "The situation in the east of Ukraine by the end of April 22, 2022

    North direction
    ▪Allied forces are fighting on the outskirts of Liman and Svyatogorsk.
    ▪The second day there is a battle for the crossing of the Aidar River in the settlement of Zarechnoye (Kirovsk).
    ▪In Popasnaya, the Popasnaya-1 station and the surrounding buildings are occupied.

    Mariupol
    ▪Up to 2,000 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Azov National Regiment, up to 400 foreign mercenaries are blocked at the Azovstal plant.
    ▪The infliction of fire damage from heavy artillery and rocket systems continues.
    ▪The cleanup of the area of ​​auxiliary production of the plant and the station "Sortirovochnaya" continues. Control was established over the building of the lime shop - the main building in the area.

    Positional battles are going on in the southern direction, active fire destruction of enemy positions and warehouses is being carried out.

    Map in high resolution

    #map #Donetsk #Zaporozhye #Lugansk #Mariupol #Russia #Ukraine #Kharkov
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    Post  Ispan Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:54 pm

    It has taken me hours to piece together the reports and make something that it's readable. It has everything, reports from the fronts, news, and analysis.


    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/04/22/noticias-de-la-guerra-22-04-22-informe-especial/

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    Post  ludovicense Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:57 pm

    par far wrote:"The situation in the east of Ukraine by the end of April 22, 2022

    North direction
    ▪Allied forces are fighting on the outskirts of Liman and Svyatogorsk.
    ▪The second day there is a battle for the crossing of the Aidar River in the settlement of Zarechnoye (Kirovsk).
    ▪In Popasnaya, the Popasnaya-1 station and the surrounding buildings are occupied.

    Mariupol
    ▪Up to 2,000 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Azov National Regiment, up to 400 foreign mercenaries are blocked at the Azovstal plant.
    ▪The infliction of fire damage from heavy artillery and rocket systems continues.
    ▪The cleanup of the area of ​​auxiliary production of the plant and the station "Sortirovochnaya" continues.  Control was established over the building of the lime shop - the main building in the area.

    Positional battles are going on in the southern direction, active fire destruction of enemy positions and warehouses is being carried out.

    Map in high resolution

    #map #Donetsk #Zaporozhye #Lugansk #Mariupol #Russia #Ukraine #Kharkov
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    Up to 2,000 soldiers from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Azov National Regiment, up to 400 foreign mercenaries are locked up in the Azovstal factory: I wonder how much food is stored in this factory? How long will they last? That's a lot of mouth for two meals a day...

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    Post  Regular Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:02 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:

    Any somewhat meaningfull upgrade in armor will screw up the buoyancy and likely remove amphibious capability completely, while also reducing overall mobility. They could add cheap RPG screens but are they really that effective?
    Better to upgrade more BMP-2 with Berezhok and more BMP-3 with new sights.

    I am afraid the buoyancy bit is only relevant to marines as we can see that this is not needed today. This is why Kurganets-25 need addons to be properly amphibious (swimming comes as a bonus, not priority)

    But you are totally right about mobility. Not to mention maintenance.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:52 pm

    limb wrote:
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    I'm pretty sure the US used more PGMs during 20 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    I will not vouch for a 20-year period, but try to compare any comparable period of time: for example, in what two months has the United States used such a number of precision weapons anywhere?
    Serbia 1999

    We were finding unexploded bombs older than Vietnam War

    There was a lot but how much was precision is another story

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:57 pm

    Russia reveals sunken warship’s crew losses

    During struggle for the ship's survivability, one soldier died and another 27 crew went missing, the Ministry of Defense has said

    Not bad, sad for sailor, but at least all the crew except 1 survived.

    Very good result

    “In the course of the struggle for the ship's damage, one serviceman was killed, another 27 crew members were missing. The remaining 396 crew members were evacuated from the cruiser to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet in the area and taken to Sevastopol," the ministry said.

    What do they mean missing? They would have been listed KIA if dead no?

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    Post  VARGR198 Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:02 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russia reveals sunken warship’s crew losses

    During struggle for the ship's survivability, one soldier died and another 27 crew went missing, the Ministry of Defense has said

    Not bad, sad for sailor, but at least all the crew except 1 survived.

    Very good result

    “In the course of the struggle for the ship's damage, one serviceman was killed, another 27 crew members were missing. The remaining 396 crew members were evacuated from the cruiser to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet in the area and taken to Sevastopol," the ministry said.

    What do they mean missing? They would have been listed KIA if dead no?

    Missing in Action. Their bodies were not found so although probably dead cannot be confirmed.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:16 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Traditional evening cruise missiles incoming. Some already struck targets in the Nikolaev region.

    And tradition must be upheld, no stopping



    Hole wrote:...Why should they be allowed to keep Odessa? They could still trade, they will just have to pay customs fees.

    No keeping anything anymore especially not Odessa, that's the next priority location after Donbass is wrapped up

    Train is rolling now so it's either Polish border or total failure



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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:19 pm

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    ‼🇷🇺Во время пожара на крейсере “Москва” героически погиб старший мичман Иван Вахрушев.

    Он руководил своей командой, вывел матросов из огня и спустился заглушить котельную, но выбраться уже не успел...

    Сегодня с моряком простились в Севастополе, рассказал губернатор Развозжаев.

    The honored sailor from Moskva, senior midshipman Ivan Vakhrushev

    Led sailors to evacuate and went to shut down the boiler room

    He did not make it

    He is honored in Sevastopol

    This is the identified 1 killed in Moskva

    396 crew were evacuated due to the heroism of his actions

    27 are MIA

    According to MOD

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:22 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:So this is basically what the official plan is now in terms of Russian goals for Ukraine, taking over the blue parts (except Crimea, which is already a part of Russia).
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    Horseshit, this isn't even consolation prize

    They just get another Western Germany this way



    Hole wrote:Jokes aside, I got some gruesome pics of dead Ukrops, left in trenches. They´re buried by the Russian Army, of course.

    Post raw links, just don't embed them


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    Post  par far Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:23 pm

    The clown is fucked.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/44372

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    Post  par far Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:25 pm

    "We conducted another detachment of volunteers to participate in a special operation in Ukraine. Hundreds of true patriots from all over the country will soon arrive in the deployment zone and fight with the Bandera and nationalist evil spirits.

    Each of the volunteers completed a full training course at the Russian University of Special Forces in Gudermes. Professional instructors taught them the basics of martial arts.

    Dear BROTHERS - the Chairman of the Parliament of the Chechen Republic Magomed Daudov @MDaudov_95 and the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Chechen Republic Ruslan Alkhanov saw off the glorious journey. We wish good luck to our glorious warriors and glorious victories! AKHMAT-POWER!"



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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:32 pm

    ludovicense wrote:....Up to 2,000 soldiers from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Azov National Regiment, up to 400 foreign mercenaries are locked up in the Azovstal factory: I wonder how much food is stored in this factory? How long will they last? That's a lot of mouth for two meals a day...

    2000 Ukrainians should be enough to feed 400 foreign mercenaries for quite a while  

    Not as long if they go other way around...  study

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:12 am

    Roll up those sleeves, time for the Force-Z shots.

    Ukrainian troops ambushed by RF and DPR



    Kharkov Region, RF captured large munition base from ukrainian forces.



    DPR SF footage during Mariupol operation.



    RF SF close range attack on Ukrainian troops and BMP



    More updates here:

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:28 am

    billybatts91 wrote:So this is basically what the official plan is now in terms of Russian goals for Ukraine, taking over the blue parts (except Crimea, which is already a part of Russia).
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    That's a minimum. I would say it's far better to take all the key oblasts that have any strategic and economic value. This will help the Novorussia, while depriving Ukraine of key industries making them suffer and require life support from EU, UK, USA for decades making this costly for them as a form of punishment. Odessa, and Transnistria is a done deal question is will Gagauzia follow Transnistria? I think it might.


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