Russian special military operation in Ukraine #12

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Does anyone know what weapon the Russian soldier uses, which appears to shoot exploding grenades at the Ukrainian group?

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/43121

RG-6.
Note the wild throw of the weapon before each shot - its due to cilinder with grenades being articulated with spring tension released to rotate it before each shot in true revolver fashion.
Milkor suffers the sane problem, to my knowledge.

teh_beard wrote:

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Does anyone know what weapon the Russian soldier uses, which appears to shoot exploding grenades at the Ukrainian group?

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/43121

RG-6.
Note the wild throw of the weapon before each shot - its due to cilinder with grenades being articulated with spring tension released to rotate it before each shot in true revolver fashion.
Milkor suffers the sane problem, to my knowledge.

From the results it looks like a formidable weapon.

Zelenski at work. Just in case you didn't see yet 

https://t.me/Anna_News_MSK/9881



and there it goes the soundtrack:

Believe some of these newly delivered weapons are already Destroyed

Updates

1) The US Treasury: In the next stage, we will focus on pursuing those who try to violate sanctions against Russia

2) Russian troops already in Zarichne

3) Putin discusses Russia-Ukraine talks, Middle East with Palestinian leader Abbas

4) Russia now has 76 battalion tactical groups in Ukraine now, a slight increase in recent days, a senior U.S. defense official says

5) The U.S. official says the United States has no evidence that the sunken Russian warship had nuclear weapons when it went down. (contrary to Twitter gossip)

6) First flights carrying $800 million worth of weapons arrived Sunday and will be delivered to Ukraine: U.S. senior defense official

Can anyone explain why the Moskva was needed as an air defense bubble? The S-400 has 4000km range and is far superior to the S-300F. They could've just deployed S-400s and S-300Vs in Kherson. Also a 24/7 Su-30 patrol would've also been enough. In short, Why did the Odessa bay specifically need a 150km radius AD bubble?

https://t.me/ostashkonews/8007

The story of the Moskva:

It was deployed near Romania and Odessa to track the origin of the "Ukrainian" jets doing runs to the east.
It turns out they are operating from Romanian airfields flying out over the Black Sea and north to Odessa.
The Mosvka was employed to track this activity with its 500 km range phased array radar.

Apparently two UAVs attacked the Moskva. One was shot down and the other managed to take out about
half of its radar capacity. This would make it vulnerable to a Neptun or similar attack.

In any case, NATzO was involved in the Moskva incident.

kvs wrote:https://t.me/ostashkonews/8007

The story of the Moskva:

It was deployed near Romania and Odessa to track the origin of the "Ukrainian" jets doing runs to the east.
It turns out they are operating from Romanian airfields flying out over the Black Sea and north to Odessa.
The Mosvka was employed to track this activity with its 500 km range phased array radar.

Apparently two UAVs attacked the Moskva.   One was shot down and the other managed to take out about
half of its radar capacity.  This would make it vulnerable to a Neptun or similar attack.  

In any case, NATzO was involved in the Moskva incident.  

 

How a could a slow drone with weapons with maximum range of 30km at most successfully hit a ship with multiple targeting radars. This is like a WW2 torpedo bomber destroying a modern ship.

limb wrote:

kvs wrote:https://t.me/ostashkonews/8007

The story of the Moskva:

It was deployed near Romania and Odessa to track the origin of the "Ukrainian" jets doing runs to the east.
It turns out they are operating from Romanian airfields flying out over the Black Sea and north to Odessa.
The Mosvka was employed to track this activity with its 500 km range phased array radar.

Apparently two UAVs attacked the Moskva.   One was shot down and the other managed to take out about
half of its radar capacity.  This would make it vulnerable to a Neptun or similar attack.  

In any case, NATzO was involved in the Moskva incident.  

 

How a could a slow drone with weapons with maximum range of 30km at most successfully hit a ship with multiple targeting radars. This is like a WW2 torpedo bomber destroying a modern ship.

Fly below radar horizon until you're right upon it

d_taddei2 wrote:Believe some of these newly delivered weapons are already Destroyed  

Updates

1) The US Treasury: In the next stage, we will focus on pursuing those who try to violate sanctions against Russia

2) Russian troops already in Zarichne

3) Putin discusses Russia-Ukraine talks, Middle East with Palestinian leader Abbas

4) Russia now has 76 battalion tactical groups in Ukraine now, a slight increase in recent days, a senior U.S. defense official says

5) The U.S. official says the United States has no evidence that the sunken Russian warship had nuclear weapons when it went down. (contrary to Twitter gossip)

6) First flights carrying $800 million worth of weapons arrived Sunday and will be delivered to Ukraine: U.S. senior defense official

#1.) This can back fire or it can work for the US, if it back fires(the most likely situation), it will **** the US up.

#3.) The Russian-Israeli relations seem not too good right now, is Israel towing the US line?

Russia cannot take on NATO as yet and doing so would be foolish but this is an extreme escalation if true. Next thing you know drones will be based off airfields in Romania once they run out of Ukrainian pilots and Soviet-era jets.

What's probably needed is not knee-jerk revenge but a gradual expansion of the army through the formation of new battalions/brigades and their manning with some war-experienced vets, new volunteers and reservists, and gradually rotating them into the Ukraine to solidify them as combat formations and give everyone some experience. These can use some of the many vehicles and equipment in storage fitted with quick, cheap upgrades, and modern stuff where it's crucial (comms, UAVs, etc..)
NATO on the contrary will only have more cracks appear in it for as long as they're not directly engaged in the war yet their mercs are taking losses and their economies are suffering from inflation. One mustn't give them an excuse to mobilize society or whatever. The propaganda front and exposing Kiev's crimes is crucial here too.

The economy must not suffer though so any mobilization must still be pretty limited; just wide over the total pool, taking in reservists in parties for duty for a period 6 months or so until they're deposited back to civilian life. Such battalions can be put into reserve when they're not active, ready to be filled if full mobilization is called for.

But yes I don't see any Novorussia or any of that stuff, the entirety of the Ukraine will have to be taken otherwise NATO will find a way of keeping this war running forever. This must be done intelligently, by provoking mass surrenders, by destabilizing the regime in Kiev and solidifying peaceful life and jump-starting the economy in Ukrainian territory that has been taken under control.

par far wrote:
#1.) This can back fire or it can work for the US, if it back fires(the most likely situation), it will **** the US up.

#3.) The Russian-Israeli relations seem not too good right now, is Israel towing the US line?

Israel after a short period of neutrality has voiced blame against Russia for the Bucha incident and voted for its removal from the Human Rights council of the UN

In practice this doesn't mean much and Russia has voted against Israel consistently at the UN anyway so there's no need for an overreaction.

Big_Gazza wrote:

par far wrote:#3.) The Russian-Israeli relations seem not too good right now, is Israel towing the US line?

Israel is the tail that wags the US dog.  The US and their Eurotrash cock-holsters would never have embarked on this Ukro nazi endeavour had the neocon Jews in the US Deep State not hatched the plot and worked so hard within US gov structures to encourage it.  Jews want Ukraine as their 2nd homeland, another land full of goys to dominate and control and to use in order to enrich themselves. Given that Ashkenazis orginate from Ukraine (or at least part of it) and are entrenched as the "nations" economic elites, it was probably inevitable that these bastards would eventually get around to subverting it.

Israel will never be Russias friend, and it should be treated as an enemy nation.  

It's not about being Russia's friend, it's about strategy. You want to try and split the US and its allies as a bloc, and the less are engaged in simultaneous hostilities with, the better.

Hence it doesn't benefit Russia to respond to any Israeli diplomatic provocations at present time, other than through its own diplomatic demarches and messages.

This is a good article saying that the US Navy could experience what happened to the Slava Class cruiser:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/sinking-russias-flagship-might-bad-163928574.html

Big_Gazza wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
It's not about being Russia's friend, it's about strategy. You want to try and split the US and its allies as a bloc, and the less are engaged in simultaneous hostilities with, the better.

Hence it doesn't benefit Russia to respond to any Israeli diplomatic provocations at present time, other than through its own diplomatic demarches and messages.

I can accept that, as along as Russia knows deep down that the jew state is an enemy and that Russia keeps a well sharpened khinzhal ready and available for the opportunity to plunge it hilt-deep into Israels fcking neck....

What's important to understand is that the 15% of countries in the world that are part of the core Western bloc benefit from all the neo-colonialism and shenanigance as it keeps their security and their economies at the top. And they all know it, regardless of their multi-vector policies and trade ties during peace time. That includes Israel, that includes South Korea, Singapore, and so on. And these states can always be relied upon, ultimately, to band together.
Conversely the other 85% are not part of the bloc, or maintain dependence on it for the security of their regimes - countries like Pakistan, Columbia, Georgia and so on. These are states that can be relied upon to resist any pressure from the West to control their affairs, rebel against them outright, or in the case of dependent regimes - have strong grassroots opposition movements.

GarryB wrote:

What's the point for a burned out 40 year old hull?

Perhaps make a memorial out of it

Memorial to what? Incompetence?

Smartest thing to do now is to drop pile of depth charges on the wreckage and forget that the whole sorry thing ever existed

zorobabel wrote:Berdyansk today  

https://t.me/asbmil/1109

Thanks for sharing, I like Berdyansk very much, happy to see that destruction and death didn't visit it apart from some instances.

PapaDragon wrote:

GarryB wrote:

What's the point for a burned out 40 year old hull?

Perhaps make a memorial out of it

Memorial to what? Incompetence?

Smartest thing to do now is to drop pile of depth charges on the wreckage and forget that the whole sorry thing ever existed

Incompetence aside, the ship and its crews served for decades, so it should and probably will be memorialised in some way.
The only thing requiring a drop pile of depth charges is your childish arrogance.