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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #12

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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:28 am

    Yandex' imagery of the place has the same resolution, though taken in the summer.

    Anyway, what does it matter?

    Suspect the intent is to encourage attacks.

    It doesn’t in reality , they wont show anything the Americans can’t see anyway, but it would be a political and dickish move from another private enterprise enslaved to the CIA. They usually honour countries that request sensitive sites to be blurred. I myself copied it from a tg group so take what you will from it.

    The result will be Russian sources stop blurring western locations like Israel or US or UK or whatever... just further proof if any was needed as to who controls what and their interests at the moment.

    Damn, already the third time I can not gowith my son... 2 times due to COVID and this year Russia declared my country as unfriendly state

    With no accountability for western politicians and leaders they have no reason to do what is right for the people in their countries... they just do as they are told which is almost never in their countries interests... but it is the same for all political parties because the US has dirt on everyone, that is why their spy agencies are so massive... they watch allies and know where the bodies are buried so they can control them and make them do things that are against public opinion in their own countries.

    Novorosinform REPORTED:Military Aid From #Europe is Destroyed,The Former Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada announced that an arsenal of Weapons and ammunition Delivered By the West to #Ukraine was destroyed by #Russian Missile strikes last night at the #Lviv Railstation.

    What a lucky turn of events.... Twisted Evil

    They are in the middle of a war and they waste time with theatrics

    Get some military academy cadets to prance around in Moscow and send those 11k grunts an 77 aircraft to help out in Ukraine

    They don't need extra men... they are not short of men, what they need is time.

    And there should always be time to celebrate the destruction of the Nazis during WWII... they paid a heavy price then and they think that was worth it too, this time around the price is tiny in comparison but it is still a heavy price to pay for shit that should not still be a problem.

    Sadly there is evil in the world and they create and promote such things... part of this operation will kill nazis, but the political portion is essentially breaking Russia away from the west which means cutting ties with nazi lovers which is just as important if not more so.

    So the question now presents itself. Instead of a Eurasian Union... what about a New Soviet Union?
    After all, if not for crooked alcoholic Yeltsin and halfwits like Kuchma, the Soviet Union would have survived... just with free market politicals and a myriad of political parties.

    Russia was probably the biggest loser in the Soviet Union setup... it was the worst colonial power because its colonies tended to have a much better standard of living compared with most in Russia. But they still complained of course.

    Russia does not need to expand, just good trade relations with the south and east of Ukraine and everything will be fine.

    Personally I'm not particularly fond of the "parade cult". IMO they should just hold it every 5 years or so, ie on the 80th anniversary next. Other years, mark May 9th with a more solemn ceremony, but do keep the "immortal regiment" march annual.

    Remembering a war where they lost 30 million people is hardly a parade cult... perhaps if the west also remembered WWII properly it wouldn't be getting a partial repeat right now... more respect for the horror of war and they wouldn't be so keen to start them.

    Frankly, that's just kind of silly. It's not exactly rocket science, and there are plenty of domestic manufacturers of piston engines in other weight/power classes already. They should have been tasked with this many years ago.

    Of course, going for readily available off-the-shelf stuff is far quicker and more cost effective than to develop and produce an entierly new product at all times, that goes without saying.

    But for important weapons systems, in a country like Russia that must have expected more and more sanctions coming over the past 8 years (as they have), come on.

    They are building new factories to make UCAVs and still you complain... there are likely a few different engine types they could use from motor bike engines and other types as well.... making thousands of Orions would make little sense if they don't have the crews to operate them.

    That's absolutely treasonous.

    Why?

    How many do you think they could possibly use at one time?

    5) The U.S. official says the United States has no evidence that the sunken Russian warship had nuclear weapons when it went down. (contrary to Twitter gossip)

    As far as I know by non verbal agreement both the Russians and US stopped taking nuclear armed weapons on their ships and subs (except obviously SSBNs and their SLBMs).

    This is like a WW2 torpedo bomber destroying a modern ship.

    If a modern warship didn't realise what that torpedo bomber was most modern western ships would be very vulnerable to torpedo attack.

    By the time it launched its attack you could shoot it down easily enough but those torpedoes could still hit you.

    BTW if a drone took out half of its radar capacity then that would explain the explosion and fire... if two Uran missiles hit it there would have been rather more devastation.

    the US will get Pakistan fully in its orbit, but India and its 1.5 billion consumers are probably going to side with their traditional trading partner as will China. That is two very large markets and I just don't think Biden has enough to offer as a carrot and the stick won't work

    I just hope the US throws its weight like it normally does in that special arrogant way only they can to make India realise that China isn't their enemy... their enemy is the west led by the US.

    It's not about being Russia's friend, it's about strategy. You want to try and split the US and its allies as a bloc, and the less are engaged in simultaneous hostilities with, the better.

    Agree but spliting the US and Zion is unlikely.... easier to split the US from the EU and probably more productive...

    Conversely the other 85% are not part of the bloc, or maintain dependence on it for the security of their regimes - countries like Pakistan, Columbia, Georgia and so on. These are states that can be relied upon to resist any pressure from the West to control their affairs, rebel against them outright, or in the case of dependent regimes - have strong grassroots opposition movements.

    Exactly... what you are talking about in western terms is the first world (the west), the second world (Russia and China and other communist states like Vietnam and Cuba and North Korea) and the third world (anyone else not in those two groups). Russia and China and India will never be allowed to join the west and the third world is also banned from joining the west, and the west is fixated with what they admit is containment and isolation of second and third world countries preventing them joining the first world of comfort and leisure. Problem for them is that the second world is going to develop and grow with the third world and pretty soon they might reach levels where joining the western world would be a step down for them... many will claim the west has all the money but it is fake money based on nothing but printing presses in the US and when countries stop trading in US dollars or Euros and stop accepting them their value will drop to nothing and they wont be rich any more.

    Conversely there is nothing stopping Africa from becoming as wealthy as Europe... Asia is already developing fast and central and south america can all develop and grow too and Russia and China and India can join in that development and growth too so everyone wins... except the bitter and twisted west who has gone home and taken their ball but everyone else just made their own balls and are playing together now.

    Memorial to what? Incompetence?

    Smartest thing to do now is to drop pile of depth charges on the wreckage and forget that the whole sorry thing ever existed

    They could refloat it and recover any dead on board and then move it to a suitable place near Sevastopol away from sea traffic and sink her as a memorial to this stupid war the US created for Russia and Ukraine. Divers could visit the wreck and remember what censored the Americans are.

    Holding an AK-74 set to full auto like that... Though I guess he's okay because the mag is wrongly fitted too (rear release latch engaged but the forward hook isn't, he inserted it the wrong way...

    You can also see the hammer is forward, it is visible in that image...

    Also the Ukrainians would absolutely post drone camera footage of them targeting the Moskva if they did.

    Also the key problem I have with such a story.

    But then they love to pretend drones are more capable than they actually are... look at the BS regarding Turkish drones in Syria and NK and in Ukraine...

    Man that Kh-29 doesn't waste any time getting started

    It is a rocket powered 300kg HE warhead bomb... Maverick is like 50 kgs, so 6 Mavericks on target at once. A Kh-25ML is about 90kg HE so about three Kh-25s... very potent... often used against very heavy structures like the foundations of heavy bridges or bunkers.



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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:45 am

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    The Russian Ministry of Defense says all civilians remaining in the Azovstal plant can leave it from 14:00 to 16:00 local time today along the agreed corridor. Ukrainian soldiers can also surrender during this period.

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    This is very rare footage, Grads coming back to earth.


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    Post  MMBR Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:06 pm

    NYT: "To Push Back Russians, Ukrainians Hit a Village With Cluster Munitions". After the liberation of this village, Kyiv "discovered evidence of the killing of civilians."

    Source: https://twitter.com/anatoliisharii/status/1516115953641091073?cxt=HHwWgsCj8arbqYoqAAAA  

    What else did they think was going to happen if they hit a village with cluster bombs - that they only explode when in contact with soldiers?

    Where did Ukraine get its cluster munitions - aren't they internationally banned for a couple of decades now? Its amazing that no one in the western media or human rights organizations see the irony of this


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:08 pm

    My highlight, not seen it mentioned before

    Kieran Corcoran Yahhoo hews

    Mon, April 18, 2022, 11:52 AM·2 min read

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy promoted Ukraine's top naval commander in what officials suggested was a reward for sinking the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

    Oleksiy Neizhpapa was elevated from the rank of Rear Admiral to Vice Admiral on April 16, according to a decree on Zelenskyy's website.

    It did not give a reason for the promotion. But Victoria Strakhova, an adviser in Zelenskyy's administration, said in a Facebook post that "everybody knows" the "lightning operation" that prompted the move. Anton Gerashchenko, another Ukrainian official, made the same connection on his Telegram channel. Both were gesturing towards the destruction of the Moskva, a Russian missile cruiser, which was its flagship in the Black Sea that the country shares with Ukraine.

    Russia has not acknowledged the claimed Ukrainian attack but US officials confirmed that the missile strike was genuine.

    The Moskva was the largest warship to be destroyed since World War II. Its loss represented a huge blow to Russian military prestige and a massive morale boost to Ukraine. Russian media has studiously avoided reporting any details of the Moskva's destruction, as noted by the BBC's Russia editor Steve Rosenberg.

    The Moskva gained early infamy in the war for its role in conquering Snake Island, where Ukrainian defenders refused to surrender and told the warship to "**** off" before being captured.

    Russia was so confident of the ship's prowess that it stationed a priceless Orthodox Christian relic on board, a purported piece of the "true cross" on which Christ was crucified.

    It is not clear whether the relic went down with the ship,
    as Insider's Mia Jankowicz reported.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:17 pm

    text transferred to the navy section ..


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:19 pm

    The strange thing is that there is no evidence from the Ukrainians about the much talked about attack on the Moskva.
    Not drones taking off, not missile fire.
    And that they spend publishing anything.
    On the other hand, something that lowers the level of military forums is the type of rambling that occurs in cases like this.
    With zero evidence and only based on rumours, pages and pages of comments are filled.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:21 pm

    Large RU forces apparently advanced 20km from Kreminna to Torske in 12 hours without meeting much resistance, then they drove UA out of the latter town just now. Almost gotten half way to Slavyansk from where they started yesterday.

    Even the Russian MoD has now announced "phase 2".

    Meanwhile in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, UA militants are getting nervous and it shows in an uptick of crimes against civilians. Looting, stealing cars, killing people who object.




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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:26 pm

    There is a thread for russian navy so stop spoiling this one. And russia doesn't need China they have plenty of classes for small ship and corvettes. They have Gorshkov and Grigorovitch as frigates. They have ivan gren and modification for landing forces.

    All of them have been designed from a to z and are being build or have been build. So if they want them just order more.

    Reality is that thry don't want to spend on the navy. Like the Moskva and other successfull anti ship missile hits showed, surface ship are targets.

    What they need is submarines and a powerful air force as well as long range missiles and satelittes.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:27 pm

    kvs wrote:
    It was deployed near Romania and Odessa to track the origin of the "Ukrainian" jets doing runs to the east.
    It turns out they are operating from Romanian airfields flying out over the Black Sea and north to Odessa.
    The Mosvka was employed to track this activity with its 500 km range phased array radar.

    Just to mention this, no confirmation I have seen from Russian MoD.

    If true there must be a possibility that the (surprise?) attack on the Moskva could have been in response to this event.


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    1—On April 16, 2022, near #Odessa, #RF air defences shot down a military transport plane delivering a large shipment of military aid from the West.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:32 pm

    If it is useful to station warships at Sea (for example , to make use of Radar , for higher resolution images ) where they can be possibly hit with Sea- skimming missiles , then an easy way to protect ships , is to erect a steel plate on Barges around ship , at least as high as Hull of the ship . This barrier can be stationed near enough to ship , so that skimmers can not dive down quickly enough , after climbing this fence ! Alternatively station old ships , filled with expanded foam blocks , so they do not sink , if hit , around fighting ships . Can be done now . Same Barges or ships , can hang down steel net chain , under it , to stop Torpedo !
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:38 pm

    Isos wrote:There is a thread for russian navy so stop spoiling this one. And russia doesn't need China they have plenty of classes for small ship and corvettes. They have Gorshkov and Grigorovitch as frigates. They have ivan gren and modification for landing forces.

    All of them have been designed from a to z and are being build or have been build. So if they want them just order more.

    Reality is that thry don't want to spend on the navy. Like the Moskva and other successfull anti ship missile hits showed, surface ship are targets.

    What they need is submarines and a powerful air force as well as long range missiles and satelittes.


    I intentionally published that text because I got tired of reading about the cruiser that sank.
    * Airforce, yes; anti ship missiles, yes; submarines and satelittes, yes..
    I do not agree about ships. Yes, projects 22800 and 21631 are good but only if they are close to home ports. Anti-submarine weapons do not exist on these ships, at least at the moment, while the air defense system is only close defense. As for the frigates, I do not agree at all, because the speed of their construction is still worryingly slow. Corvettes are another story, but only when it comes to the Amur Shipyard.

    That's right, I will not write about this below this topic - I agree with that.
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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:42 pm

    Pro tip for engaging Malcolm Nance, he's a pundit so for a clean head shot aim for his ass as that is where his brain is.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:marqs
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    This is very rare footage, Grads coming back to earth.



    Eh, if only the Russians could have sent them the song "Highway to Hell".
    After such an artillery strike, there is no doubt that many Banderistan fighters were killed.

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:49 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Isos wrote:There is a thread for russian navy so stop spoiling this one. And russia doesn't need China they have plenty of classes for small ship and corvettes. They have Gorshkov and Grigorovitch as frigates. They have ivan gren and modification for landing forces.

    All of them have been designed from a to z and are being build or have been build. So if they want them just order more.

    Reality is that thry don't want to spend on the navy. Like the Moskva and other successfull anti ship missile hits showed, surface ship are targets.

    What they need is submarines and a powerful air force as well as long range missiles and satelittes.


    I intentionally published that text because I got tired of reading about the cruiser that sank.
    * Airforce, yes; anti ship missiles, yes; submarines and satelittes, yes..
    I do not agree about ships. Yes, projects 22800 and 21631 are good but only if they are close to home ports. Anti-submarine weapons do not exist on these ships, at least at the moment, while the air defense system is only close defense. As for the frigates, I do not agree at all, because the speed of their construction is still worryingly slow. Corvettes are another story, but only when it comes to the Amur Shipyard.

    That's right, I will not write about this below this topic - I agree with that.

    China has no experience patroling outside its water even if it has 40 destroyers and helicopter carriers and 2 aircraft carriers.

    Nothing they can aid russian navy with.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:55 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Isos wrote:There is a thread for russian navy so stop spoiling this one. And russia doesn't need China they have plenty of classes for small ship and corvettes. They have Gorshkov and Grigorovitch as frigates. They have ivan gren and modification for landing forces.

    All of them have been designed from a to z and are being build or have been build. So if they want them just order more.

    Reality is that thry don't want to spend on the navy. Like the Moskva and other successfull anti ship missile hits showed, surface ship are targets.

    What they need is submarines and a powerful air force as well as long range missiles and satelittes.


    I intentionally published that text because I got tired of reading about the cruiser that sank.
    * Airforce, yes; anti ship missiles, yes; submarines and satelittes, yes..
    I do not agree about ships. Yes, projects 22800 and 21631 are good but only if they are close to home ports. Anti-submarine weapons do not exist on these ships, at least at the moment, while the air defense system is only close defense. As for the frigates, I do not agree at all, because the speed of their construction is still worryingly slow. Corvettes are another story, but only when it comes to the Amur Shipyard.

    That's right, I will not write about this below this topic - I agree with that.

    China has no experience patroling outside its water even if it has 40 destroyers and helicopter carriers and 2 aircraft carriers.

    Nothing they can aid russian navy with.

    I wouldn't be sure about that, except when it came to submarines.
    Forget it, we won't talk about it here anymore, because I wrote why I published that text. My suggestion is to transfer everything related to the cruiser "Moscow" to the section "Project 1164 or SLAVA class Cruiser". There is time to discuss this in the future and after the special operation is over. I removed my original post and WE CONTINUE TO HIT BANDERISTAN.

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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:31 pm

    Isos wrote:
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    ALAMO wrote:In some reports, it was stated that half of NLAWs won't work due to battery issues.
    That is why they don't use them in real.

    As I have said, the whole "western deliveries" are much overhyped and work as a propaganda campaign.
    Ukraine produced much more potent and comfort to operate ATGMs in waste numbers.

    In the last days there were reports in NATO countries that the stocks are down. It´s "defend Ukraine or ourselves" now. That´s what the freakshow in Washington wanted. Sell more weapons to countries like Germany, Spain and even France. Or open new bases in countries like Slovakia, Slovenia and so on.


    With a 10% inflatiin soon in the US, selling weapons will be good but opening new multi billion dollars bases abroad very unlikely.

    Bases are the way of the Empire to keep the minions under its thumb.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:34 pm

    * The Ukrainian army targeted the Russian village of Golovchino with BM-21 systems. Three civilians were wounded, no one was killed. Moscow's retaliation for this and a strike on "decision-making centers" is possible.

    * On the entire front, all the way to the Kherson region, there is a constant artillery fire of the Russian army. According to sources from the field, such artillery fire has not been recorded so far and the positions of the Ukrainian army near Barvenkovo, Liman, Popasnaya, Gorlovka, Avdeevka, Gulaypole, Kurakhovo are being "destroyed with the ground".
    A strong artillery strike by the Russian army is on the border of the Dnipropetrovsk and Kherson regions, on the right bank of the Dnieper River. Aviation strikes are incessant. According to the information of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, 1260 targets of the Ukrainian army were hit and that is a record so far.
    The infantry of the Russian army is advancing from the direction of the Izym region and is moving in the direction of Barvenkovo ​​and towards Slavyansk. Also, the Russian army is advancing in the direction of Liman and Yampolya and in the area near Gulaypole and Velikaya Novoselka. No major infantry attacks were reported in other areas.
    Given the powerful artillery strikes in the next one to two days, the advance of Russian infantry is expected in the direction of Popasnaya, Gorlovka, Avdeevka
    The advance of the Russian army towards the Nikolaev area can be expected, because Russian artillery is "making noise" in that direction as well.
    The goal is to previously occupy the Karachun hill (elevation; 168 meters), where the positions of the Ukrainian army are located. Those positions are under terrible blows from the Russian army, also with Iskander missiles. The position on that hill is very important and the Russian army will try to reach this elevation. After capturing this elevation, it will be much easier to perform and strike at the positions of the Ukrainian army near Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. On the other hand, the advance towards Slavyansk and Kramatorsk will go from Liman and Yampole, from where units of the LPR and the Russian Army will perform together.






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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:34 pm

    JohninMK wrote:My highlight, not seen it mentioned before

    Kieran Corcoran Yahhoo hews

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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy promoted Ukraine's top naval commander in what officials suggested was a reward for sinking the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

    Oleksiy Neizhpapa was elevated from the rank of Rear Admiral to Vice Admiral on April 16, according to a decree on Zelenskyy's website.

    It did not give a reason for the promotion. But Victoria Strakhova, an adviser in Zelenskyy's administration, said in a Facebook post that "everybody knows" the "lightning operation" that prompted the move. Anton Gerashchenko, another Ukrainian official, made the same connection on his Telegram channel. Both were gesturing towards the destruction of the Moskva, a Russian missile cruiser, which was its flagship in the Black Sea that the country shares with Ukraine.

    Russia has not acknowledged the claimed Ukrainian attack but US officials confirmed that the missile strike was genuine.

    The Moskva was the largest warship to be destroyed since World War II. Its loss represented a huge blow to Russian military prestige and a massive morale boost to Ukraine. Russian media has studiously avoided reporting any details of the Moskva's destruction, as noted by the BBC's Russia editor Steve Rosenberg.

    The Moskva gained early infamy in the war for its role in conquering Snake Island, where Ukrainian defenders refused to surrender and told the warship to "**** off" before being captured.

    Russia was so confident of the ship's prowess that it stationed a priceless Orthodox Christian relic on board, a purported piece of the "true cross" on which Christ was crucified.

    It is not clear whether the relic went down with the ship,
    as Insider's Mia Jankowicz reported.

    The soldiers at snake island never said that.

    No drone footage means no drone. If no drone was there then the whole rest of the story is a lie.

    https://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-11/
    Includes a look at the Moskva story.

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    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #12 - Page 39 Su-34_10
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    Su-34 launching Kh-29 missile

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    Post  mavaff Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:37 pm

    Too much speculation on Moskva sinking right now, let the guys make their investigation and we will know what happened from either their words or their actions.

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    Post  Serberus Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:52 pm

    🇺🇦🇬🇧Great Britain refused to exchange two captured mercenaries for Viktor Medvedchuk.
    This position was voiced by the former chairman of the Conservative Party and Minister for Northern Ireland, Brandon Luce.
    "The British should not have gone to Ukraine at all, it is illegal," the politician said.
    The UK has previously warned its own about criminal liability for sending to fight in Ukraine.
    On the eve of the mercenaries Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, who surrendered in Mariupol, appealed to Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
    Both asked to exchange themselves for the Ukrainian politician Medvedchuk.

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