Russian special military operation in Ukraine #12

littlerabbit wrote:I was thinking a lot about this "Moskva" battle cruiser thing...it could be 2 possible enemy attacks, with sea mines or with missiles. You can't control sea mines...but if it was missile attack, we have to ask why now, why not at the beginning of war? There is one explanation running around my mind and it could be connected with Mariupol. Roumors said that serious NATO/US military officiers are stranded/captured there. NATO countries tried to make a deal with Moscow, but Putin refused. Maybe this is NATO answer to that?!  

The 3rd solution is actual malfunction of the old ship.

Anyhow, this is a big blunder to BSF command. If the cause of disaster is 1st or 2nd theory, the BSF command shouldn't let it's flagship running around so close to nazi positions...especially we all know it's old and not modernized. Considering it couldn't help much with denazification efforts, it's even more illogical to put "Moskva" there.

If it's the 3rd theory correct, BSF command is to blame again. What was inoperative ship doing in the battle zone?!

The point is, ship is not that important as more than 500 souls on it. Lives are always more important than some old ship.

But, since it is a war raging on Russian borders, those 500 sailors can man up 2 Gorshkovs frigates and a corvette. Considering Gorshkov class frigate is more potent than old Slava class cruiser, the calculus is quite clear. What if all or the most of those sailors got killed?

Someone must take the resposibility for this enormous blunder.

What do you guys think?  I would appreciate any feed back on this issue.

par far wrote:Polite people came to the Sberbank Security Service in Berdyansk.

https://t.me/SIL0VIKI/46910

par far wrote:"Among the prisoners in Ukraine there are military personnel of NATO countries, said Klimov, deputy head of the United Russia commission.

"We already have prisoners among the military personnel of NATO countries, we will show all this when we conduct trials, and the whole world will see what really happened," he said."


https://t.me/intelslava/25348

PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:"Among the prisoners in Ukraine there are military personnel of NATO countries, said Klimov, deputy head of the United Russia commission.

"We already have prisoners among the military personnel of NATO countries, we will show all this when we conduct trials, and the whole world will see what really happened," he said."


https://t.me/intelslava/25348

Why keep it secret then?

Post their names and photos right now otherwise I'm just gonna assume that they plan on releasing them for some negotiation bullshit as everyone expects

littlerabbit wrote:I was thinking a lot about this "Moskva" battle cruiser thing...it could be 2 possible enemy attacks, with sea mines or with missiles. You can't control sea mines...but if it was missile attack, we have to ask why now, why not at the beginning of war? There is one explanation running around my mind and it could be connected with Mariupol. Roumors said that serious NATO/US military officiers are stranded/captured there. NATO countries tried to make a deal with Moscow, but Putin refused. Maybe this is NATO answer to that?!  

The 3rd solution is actual malfunction of the old ship.

Anyhow, this is a big blunder to BSF command. If the cause of disaster is 1st or 2nd theory, the BSF command shouldn't let it's flagship running around so close to nazi positions...especially we all know it's old and not modernized. Considering it couldn't help much with denazification efforts, it's even more illogical to put "Moskva" there.

If it's the 3rd theory correct, BSF command is to blame again. What was inoperative ship doing in the battle zone?!

The point is, ship is not that important as more than 500 souls on it. Lives are always more important than some old ship.

But, since it is a war raging on Russian borders, those 500 sailors can man up 2 Gorshkovs frigates and a corvette. Considering Gorshkov class frigate is more potent than old Slava class cruiser, the calculus is quite clear. What if all or the most of those sailors got killed?

Someone must take the resposibility for this enormous blunder.

What do you guys think?  I would appreciate any feed back on this issue.

Hole wrote:
Kramatorsk


Ilyich factory

Stealthflanker wrote:For some reason i really worried about Kherson now.

Podlodka77 wrote:The fucking ship has reduced our patience. Let's move on, people.
MIR, there is no need to argue about the little things. I think you're an OK guy.
And where s that AMERI-****, RTN ?
This is his "American" vision of the future.

par far wrote:

Hole wrote:
Kramatorsk


Ilyich factory

The Russians are following their plans, they went soft into Ukraine. The original plan was to go in soft and see the how the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian military would respond.

After seeing the response, Russia may go onto to the plan they had in case that plan did not work(Russia probably has back up plans for every plan) and go harder and with the bombing of these plants and videos of dead Ukrainian/Nazis/western mercenaries, it looks like Russia is going harder.

Another thing that is happening is that the Ukrainian military or what is left of it, is running out of soldiers and western mercenaries might now want to come and die for nothing. This is why the Ukrainians are sending kids aged 14- 17 into war.
 
There so many arm chair generals on here(this is not directed at you Hole) and on the internet in general, thinking they have know the Russian plans. The funny thing about these internet arm chair generals is that they most likely have never fired an assaults rifle in their life, let alone be involved in a actual conflict.