I doubt Russia would let Ukraine have their civilian communications up if it was having a material impact on the situation in the ground.
They would leave civilian communications just for the purposes of finding out public opinion.
Regard Ukraine talking about intelligence... first of all they also say they are winning so there is that...
This is my opinion on the development of the Russian Armed Forces after this operation.
As for the price of use of cruise missiles, supersonic missiles or precisely guided anti-tank missiles and the fact that it is also expensive ...Well, it's not, because I'm convinced that Russia produces one Caliber for a price far less than one million dollars. The loss of a military plane is far more expensive, while the construction of attack and strategic nuclear submarines is incomparably more expensive.
It is very American to talk about the cost of war in terms of US dollars.
Missiles are built and are being used to kill nazis so money well spent, much of the missiles could be taken from storage and reserves for this part of the conflict.
The human cost of the conflict is all that will bother them.
The most horrendous thing is that they organized this 'evacuation' on purpose the previous day. Just to have more victims at the train station
But you think they are great and should remain in power because this invasion is stupid.
Your nation is being prepared for more cannon fodder. Volunteers to be sent to the Ukraine. At least I hope that's all it's limited to.
It's best for your people if you join NATO at this stage. Because the alternative is to not be part of NATO, while the US stations some missiles on your territory. Although I think Russia will avoid being provoked here regardless.
Very bad advice there... if Finland wants to remain Finland it should realise joining HATO will just drive a real wedge between you and your rather large neighbour.
If you want to see how effective HATO really is look at what it is doing to actually help Kiev right now.
Essentially it is funnelling weapons to prolong its misery because it does not care about Ukrainians... do you think they care about you?
The point is that Russia is invading the Ukraine to remove a disease... three diseases actually.... bio weapons labs, nuke weapons capacity, and nazism.
If the problem is Poland or a Finland that is part of HATO there is no need to send any troops in at all.... just missiles and warheads.
He wrote to me and gloated about tortured Russian POWs, said that we are all pigs and suck Putin's c*ck, Russia has the stats of Nigeria, and some other not nice things
Well, a little uncalled for. I never advocated for the war or excused its start (and still don't) until the conversation, brief as it was, ended with this outburst.
Which is why the west is no friend of Russia or Russians and you need to look to the rest of the world for people less indoctrinated and brainwashed.
Gloating about anyone being tortured tells you what sort of person he was.... clearly very angry but also obviously powerless and frustrated.
What a small evil little person they have become.
Because a banzai charge of this exhausted, mostly hastily conscripted manpower by now, with their limited ammo, out of their trenches and bunkers, and towards a fortified enemy line where said enemy has overwhelming fire superiority in air-power and artillery - is absolute suicide.
Well lead from the front... perhaps Bojo and the clown can slip on uniforms and lead the charge...
Flaming, if that guy said that to you, then idk what it would take for you to wake up
Ukraine is not our friends, we should be bombing this whole area, not indiscrimately, but heavily where the VSU is
Basing your war strategy on being butthurt over abuse from former friends is not how warfare is successfully conducted.
That friend of FP was obviously a bi queer fruit who is not sure of his gender and therefore hates Putin and all Russians...
That's why they will be ordered to advance
To have all their forces killed rather than surrender in front of the Russian cameras
I don't think you understand how serious this situation is
And most of the forces in that cauldron by now are the people that Kiev managed to forcibly conscript over the past 6 weeks, many with barely any military training.
I hope this is either propaganda or BoJo got dismissed. But you know as well as I do that this is logical from the point of view of Kiev.
Sounds like as good a solution to the current situation as any other....
America is in charge... are you expecting them to stop the death and destruction and just say it was a misunderstanding that got out of hand?
This is what they want.
Ukrainians dead and angry and Russians dead and angry... at each other.
This is a desperate regime. They know if their tens of thousands troops there surrender or are routed, the Ukrainian military is finished, and so are they.
That was the plan.
What Russia can do is keep them pinned with artillery bombardments. That will prevent any advance, and allow Russia to advance and split the pocket into many smaller ones. It can also jam and cut all the lines of communication.
They can also bombardment them with leaflets about Kiev's plans for them. Hasn't worked so far, but it's worth a shot.
Let them advance out of their safe bunkers and walk into machine gun fire and HE.
Didn't know that. Still, I wonder, who or what they are trying to get out of there. I don't think there'd be so much effort to extract them if they were just a few nazi thugs.
They mentioned an American, but also 6 different languages... so maybe British and definitely French and probably German and maybe Dutch... Belgian... your guess is as good as mine.
I do have to say that it's pretty interesting experience when you get angry for Russia wasting lives of it's soldiers in needless land war around Kiev and getting banned for it only for Shoigu himself to go on record couple of days later and say that you have been right all along
The ban was for saying the Russian soldiers involved in this conflict were two brain cell morons for following orders.
Bio weapons, nuclear weapons, and nazis are all good reasons to use its military power... the fact that war was happening anyway this gave them the chance to fire the first shots instead of thousands of civilians being killed when the Orcs launched their attack to take the Donbass and Crimea.
Instead they took some scraps of land and pretended everything was cool while locals were getting slaughtered, FFS they didn't even took the control of Donetsk city, damn place is still getting shelled
The problem of course is that all those years ago those civilians still thought of themselves as Ukrainian and didn't want to join the Russian Federation, whereas the people of the Crimea all thought they were Russian and that the Crimea was Russian territory and wanted to join immediately.
Lugansk and Donbass wanted independence from Kiev but didn't necessarily want to join the RF back then.
The facts: Ukranian population is overwhelmingly composed of Nazis and any effort to spare them of being collateral damage is a waste of time and lives as these last 30 days have shown
I disagree, I think the way Russia has handled itself was much better than western armies have and I think they have opened the eyes of the locals to what BS that Kiev has been filling their ears with these last few decades... Russia is not the enemy.
You could argue that being more brutal might have saved Russian soldier lives, but at what costs... the land and the people are not going anywhere and Russia needs to live with these people as neighbours from now on... knowing they didn't give a shit is one thing, but knowing they risked their lives to spare the lives of Ukrainians in this conflict does not make sense to any westerner of course, but that says more about the west than anything else really.
Nazis need to be killed or put on trial... pretty sure most Ukrainian citizens have come to that conclusion now.
Those who don't understand are probably too far gone... you can't save everyone.
That insanely disciplined radio silence religiously adhered to by entire Ukranian population is one of many evidences of this, one word from Zelensky and they all stopped posting immediately, oppressed civilians my ass..
After a few were publicly executed for reporting damage done by Russian attacks is when it actually stopped and for obvious reasons.
If it's true that Ukraine was planning to attack Donbass Russia should have waited until they started and used that opportunity to launch mass aerial campaign to exterminate attacking VSU and spend at least a month on it until every last thing capable of using firearm was dead before committing any ground troops
A mass aerial campaign? Against an intact Ukrainian IADS?
Amusing you think the better solution would be to bomb them from orbit... America style...
If they fail to do this they will lose not just this war but their own statehood, USA and EU will get the chance to finish what they didn't manage to back in the 90s
They will stop when they are ready to stop, and they wont waste bodies fighting to the Polish border.
Russia is not going to collapse over this... any more than the US collapsed when it was found there were no WMDs in Iraq.
Pussyfooting has to end otherwise Russia will end
Yeah yeah yeah... Putin is weak because he doesn't use military force, and now Putin is weak because he used military force and he should have waited till they had nukes and bio weapons and had already killed thousands more civilians in the Donbass.
You don't get it... if he had waited and Kiev had attacked they would have attacked because the Russians were there already... a Russian invasion was happening whether it actually happened or not... the difference would be if you give the enemy the initiative they might do something unexpected like attack the Crimean bridge with a ship loaded with explosives, or perhaps the naval port of Sevastopol or a range of other Russian targets in the Crimea.
However if the Russian people fall, it wouldn't be the first time in history a tribe ceases to coalesce as a functional group.
For the last 20 years Russia has pulled itself up and grown and developed and become a superpower again... you think the hardship of getting rubles for gas instead of euros will crush their spirits... I understand you are a US strong fanboy, but at least you understand that there is no level of western sanction that could break Russia, you have read your history.
I would say the Americans wont fall either but they will become insignificant if they leave the current 1% that are in charge to lead the ship because full speed towards a light house is simply not good captaincy... it is OK... we are the US.... they will move out of our way...
What Russia should have really done is back Yanukovich. If he was deposed in Kiev, so then evacuate him to Kharkov.
It is funny... you both talk about things like you know what would happen... Russia backing Yanukovich would have destroyed him as a Ukrainian politician... the reason they got rid of him so easily was by saying he was Putins pawn when in fact he was russophobic too... he was just not so dumb as to see a really bad deal and accept it to screw the Russians over.
It's easy to judge in retrospect but yes the Russian strategy was naive.
All you experts think you know so much is it impressive... what if they opened their attack with a Tu-141 delivering a bio weapons attack to Russian territory?
Letting the other side attack first is dumb when the enemy is well armed and equipped unless you don't give a **** about all the potential targets they will strike in the first few hours of the attack.
It's not so simple, a laptop cannot act as a command post for a system like Buk or TOR
It doesn't have to... information via a laptop gives you a direction of approach for any Russian aircraft... rough speed and altitude and they can use the optical backup guidance system to "look" for the target... given a few details it is not that hard... when you spot it power up a missile and launch and then move.
Vastly inferior to an IADS, but effective enough and hard to deal with.
Only difference is that instead of market and mortar shells there was railway station and Tochka missile
Maidan was Maidan square and Georgian snipers shooting both sides...
He admitted to significant losses. When the anchor was talking about 6 generals dead, Peskov replied that it's a misunderstanding of the situation
Peskov has not lied and he hasn't said anything the Russian MoD hasn't admitted to itself; namely the 1300 something losses 20 days ago or so.
Imagine the hate members here would spew if he said 1300 Russian soldiers killed was insignificant...
2 would be significant.
Or as you correctly stated 1 month ago, we will be carved up like other places that puss footed against the US
Bullshit... the west is sending weapons but otherwise is having nothing at all to do with this conflict... they wont be sending conventional forces and any special forces sent will be off the books.
Yours and others obsessions with kill ratios, cratering all VSU everywhere, and whatever are all well and good - but they won't win the war but prolong it, and make post war recovery more difficult. The US did not win in Afghanistan or Vietnam or Iraq. Let's not follow their example.
It think you are misunderstanding that... they have x number of nazis that need to be killed so the more they kill while allowing non nazis to surrender and avoiding civilian casualties means a good kill count is a great thing because it means nazis dead.
Has the Russian air force been staging combat patrols on western ukrainian territory? If not, why is that? I thought Ukrainian air defence is very poor. If they fly high, they won't be vulnerable to Strela 10s, stingers and iglas.
Why? Any aircraft they want to shoot down in that area could easily be covered by S-400s in Belarus... why risk aircraft?
To demoralize the ukrainians, t prevent any western incursion, to destroy western weapons shipments.
How would Russian aircraft detect western incursions or shipments of weapons?
We maybe facing a partition defacto of Ukraine
But a European country has never been partitianed like that before ever... except Yugoslavia and lots and lots of other countries really.