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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:57 pm

    Yuri Podоlyaka's channel has been banned for 7 days. In the West, they have started to ban the very watched channels of ordinary people, who have many followers. Yuri Podolyaka now publishes on this channel.

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    Post  par far Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:59 pm

    "The crew of the Bastion coastal missile system from the Black Sea coast launched two Onyx high-precision missiles at designated ground targets on the territory of Ukraine — Russian Defense Ministry."


    https://t.me/intelslava/24457

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    Post  par far Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:02 pm

    "Military commissar Semyon Pegov publishes aerial photography of the port of Mariupol.  It is there that the remnants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions on the western flank are now retreating."


    https://t.me/intelslava/24462



    That is a decent looking plant, once the city is captured in full, Russia proably plans to fix it up and put it back into operation.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:20 pm

    https://m.vk.com/video-206639135_456250180

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:22 pm

    Only the 3K60 BAL coastal missile system has not been used to hit targets in the former Ukraine. All in all, I think that if the Onyx coastal missile system is already capable of hitting targets on the ground, it could be BAL as well. Time will tell whether I am right or not.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:24 pm

    par far wrote:"The crew of the Bastion coastal missile system from the Black Sea coast launched two Onyx high-precision missiles at designated ground targets on the territory of Ukraine — Russian Defense Ministry."


    https://t.me/intelslava/24457

    and i see people claiming that as a sign of Russian runs out of missiles that they now have to use antiship mssile for land attack. Boy, such myth runs deeps eh.  They really-really dont want to see Russia use Precision munitions.

    Podlodka77 wrote:Only the 3K60 BAL coastal missile system has not been used to hit targets in the former Ukraine. All in all, I think that if the Onyx coastal missile system is already capable of hitting targets on the ground, it could be BAL as well. Time will tell whether I am right or not.

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    You right, Egyptian MiG-29M's already use Kh-35 missile against ground target in Libya. There is no reason Bal cannot do that. It's just a matter of whether it has the range or whether it's deployed in Crimea or not.

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    Post  Mir Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:36 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    You right, Egyptian MiG-29M's already use Kh-35 missile against ground target in Libya.  There is no reason Bal cannot do that.  It's just a matter of whether it has the range or whether it's deployed in Crimea or not.

    A couple of years before the Syrian campaign some idiot on The Drive I believe, wrote that Russia does not have any smart weapons capabilities. The Syrian campaign debunked that myth. The one thing that this conflict proved beyond any doubt is the extreme accuracy of the different types of precision weapons in the Russian arsenal. We have seen footage of cruise missile strikes, the Iskanders, Bastions and Oniks en Kitolovs and Krasnopols etc. etc. and they all proved to be super accurate. NATzo do have something to chew on.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:40 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    par far wrote:"The crew of the Bastion coastal missile system from the Black Sea coast launched two Onyx high-precision missiles at designated ground targets on the territory of Ukraine — Russian Defense Ministry."


    https://t.me/intelslava/24457

    and i see people claiming that as a sign of Russian runs out of missiles that they now have to use antiship mssile for land attack. Boy, such myth runs deeps eh.  They really-really dont want to see Russia use Precision munitions.

    Podlodka77 wrote:Only the 3K60 BAL coastal missile system has not been used to hit targets in the former Ukraine. All in all, I think that if the Onyx coastal missile system is already capable of hitting targets on the ground, it could be BAL as well. Time will tell whether I am right or not.

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    You right, Egyptian MiG-29M's already use Kh-35 missile against ground target in Libya.  There is no reason Bal cannot do that.  It's just a matter of whether it has the range or whether it's deployed in Crimea or not.

    I think that the range of the H-35U missile is up to 260 km, although the Russians stated that the missile was tested at greater distances. In any case, from the direction of Crimea, it is possible to carry out strikes safely to Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:41 pm

    Snickered.

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    Post  LMFS Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:42 pm

    Firebird wrote:A few decades ago, NATO putting Nazis in control of the Ukraine would mean nuclear war.
    I sometimes wonder, if Russia's conventional army was weaker... the nuclear threat would be stronger, and the American demons might have tried less evil.
    Its a dangerous belief... but  we are not dealing with rational characters.

    It is just the other way around and the reason why Russia has been reinforcing their conventional deterrence. You cannot wage a war or have any kind of escalation control just with nuclear forces and that opens you to attacks through proxy like we are seeing.

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:50 pm

    So the French colonial meddling in Africa is merely puppet theater. The masters of the universe are the Americans.

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    Post  par far Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:00 pm

    People in Europe will get annoyed of Ukrainians quickly.

    "In the Czech Republic, activists blocked traffic and unfurled banners with the Ukrainian flag

    However, not all drivers appreciated the performance of the protesters and immediately showed where their place is."


    https://t.me/smotri_media/11539

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    Post  Arrow Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:02 pm

    So it was the Russian column that was destroyed Shocked , or the or the propaganda of Ukraine. How do You judge from the destroyed equipment to whom it belonged? What do you think about it?



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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:03 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:Yuri Podоlyaka's channel has been banned for 7 days. In the West, they have started to ban the very watched channels of ordinary people, who have many followers. Yuri Podolyaka now publishes on this channel.

    PiWXKS0XVYY

    None of the videos put out by Podolyaka violate any terms of service. Clearly the west is now an Orwellian toilet where
    information that does not conform to Big Brother's agenda is suppressed.

    Naturally promotion of pedophilia and child genital mutilation is perfectly OK for YouCrap since it conforms to Big Brother's
    agenda.

    Next time some clown tells you about Russia state run "propaganda" media you can laugh in their face.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:05 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:US LT GEN captured

    THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:05 pm

    Arrow wrote:So it was the Russian column that was destroyed Shocked , or the or the propaganda of Ukraine. How do You judge from the destroyed equipment to whom it belonged?

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    The colour of the tracked AA system tells me that this is Ukr equipment. Painting on a "Z" does not make it Russian.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:08 pm

    Arrow wrote:So it was the Russian column that was destroyed Shocked , or the or the propaganda of Ukraine. How do You judge from the destroyed equipment to whom it belonged? What do you think about it?

    Been there a while, look at the rust.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:11 pm

    JohninMK wrote:We need a Seig comment on these comments by a former Seal Team 6 Assault Commander?

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    FILMING A FAKE SURRENDER: Russian sources claim that 267 Ukrainian Marines have surrendered in Mariupol, and they have the video.   But the uniforms are too clean. Nobody is wounded. No one needs a shave, &  the t-shirts are all wrong.  A Navy SEAL explains why this is bogus.


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    Okay my opinion since you asked is this.

    1. The uniforms being clean: This is a bit odd honestly if you are surrounded and under constant attack you aren't going to be able to use a washing machine and when in combat you will be laying on the ground, crawling through dirt etc, maybe the uniforms are dirty but its blending into the clothing or simply bad quality of video, but this is a point I can understand why they are making it

    2. Anyone in the military knows how to shave in the field, it takes minutes to do. So that point was moronic and inaccurate.

    3. By tea shirts he means under standard undershirts for their uni's some of them are wrong that is true but this in the field, they will be using what they have vs whats proper again another inaccurate point.

    Onto the image

    1. The Marines would not be wearing their berets in combat...What kinda seal wouldn't know this?

    2. Far as I can tell all weapons were removed which is all you really need to do, even in Syria or Afghan etc when we captured someone rarely did we take very single thing off them just any lethal instrument.

    3. These men look like they have been freshly captured so there would be no time to label them until your in a more secure area, this looks like the transport process where they will relocate and ID them etc

    4. Camera operator could have dropped the camera or it auto transitioned to a different frame angle, numerous ways to explain that.

    5. This would depend on when they were captured and if the russians separated the injured from the rest, again there are reasonable excuses as to why no one is hurt, though I do understand the point in this one. But I'd need more info to judge it.

    6. Pouch was likely already searched and just closed back up, really silly thing to say.



    Final Conclusion? there are some elements odd here that do not match what men who have been fighting for over a week would have but there are reasonable excuses for that and unless more information. is given, I'd personally say its real.

    I highly doubt a Navy seal actually said any of this, just someone claiming it to try and make their point more legit

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:17 pm

    Gleb Bazov
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    #MARIUPOL—Breathe easy, #Levoberezhny (#LeftBank) district, the last nest of #Azov on the eastern bank of #Kalmius is gone. #DNR #Russia #Donbass

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    Mamuka Mamulashvili, commander of the "Georgian National Legion" in Ukraine: "Yes, we tie their hands and feet sometimes. I speak for the Georgian Legion, we will never take Russian soldiers prisoner. Not a single one of them will be taken prisoner."


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:19 pm

    Further to the comment up thread.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:20 pm

    par far wrote:People in Europe will get annoyed of Ukrainians quickly.

    "In the Czech Republic, activists blocked traffic and unfurled banners with the Ukrainian flag

    However, not all drivers appreciated the performance of the protesters and immediately showed where their place is."


    https://t.me/smotri_media/11539

    I am already annoyed. Both in my country and in the country where I work and pay taxes they already are too much annoying.

    In my own country (Italy) we still have displaced people because of the 2009 earthquake and the various government did very little for them, but now they take our taxpayers money (not mine directly but from my family and friends) to buy weapons for the ukrianians and to help the refugees. Let's not talk about the country where I pay taxes... (I would have never thought that I would have missed Frau Merkel)...

    By the way, a few days ago I got quite annoyed by a Moldovan colleague that was complaining about Russia... (I believe she has relatives in the Ukraine) and saying the usual bullshit about the first war in the middle of Europe and so close to us..

    I replied her that ucraine is not in the middle of Europe, that the war there actually started 8 years ago and that I remember the wars in Serbia and later in Libya, that are both countries quite close to Italy and that the chaos in Libya made by France and America had a lot of negative consequences for all of Europe.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:46 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125
    Ukro Nazi's S-300 was destroyed so they are only left with BUK.

    Maybe all the Russian fighter were shot down with BUK including the Su 34 and Su 27.

    Ukraine still has quite a few systems left yes S-300 it seems are very few if none at all, but OSA, Strela 10, Sa-3, BUK, zsu-23-4 and any other of the older systems could still be lurking around. What we do know is that they are hiding systems and using them in pop up attacks. And they still have 1,000's of MANPADS of various types western and Soviet, and they must have hundreds of various AA guns although these most likely being used in ground support role.


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    Post  Isos Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:46 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    I think that the range of the H-35U missile is up to 260 km, although the Russians stated that the missile was tested at greater distances. In any case, from the direction of Crimea, it is possible to carry out strikes safely to Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev.

    Last figure was 500+km. They seem to have upgraded it with new fuel and new engines. It is a few months old news so it's harfly in production yet.

    Kh-35U is the unified missile that can be launched by any plateform. They already used it from su-34 against ground targets in Syria.

    It's a good thing to have a groubd attack back up but frankly kh-59 is way better for such targets. Abti ship warheads are less effective agaibst ground targets. They are semi-piercing charges, it's a big warhead and around it you have plenty of shaped charges to create holes in a ship and burn it. For ground targets you need lot of explosives.

    However the advantage of the kh-35 over the kh-59 is the truck mounted launcher with 16 missiles. Huge amount of missiles, lot of launchers and it's very cheap and easy yo use since you don't need planes for it. With 500km range missiles it can cover neighbour enemies pretty easily and allow to target 64 for targets at once.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:57 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell says the EU has given €35bn to Putin in energy payments since the start of the war, compared to €1bn given to Ukraine in arms and weapons

    lol!

    The EUCO president Charles Michel says that sanction measures on oil or gas will be needed "sooner or later"

    EU_Commission president Ursula says "we have to look into oil"
    but did not mention gas

    Please provide sources whenever possible. Thanks in advance.

    I don't normally provide links for general news as this is everywhere in western media quick Google shows multiple sources. Unless it's highly significant news, or has videos or pics then I post links, also it's it's appeared only in eastern media as west tends to censor certain news. But this posted by Western media and isn't big big news but it is funny. We have also had issues on the site that certain links or too many links disrupt the forum

    But as requested

    https://www.euronews.com › eu-has...
    EU has spent €35bn on Russian energy since the war began and just €1bn on ...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/eus-michel-ban-on-russian-oil-gas-imports-needed-sooner-or-later-live-updates/a-61373251

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.republicworld.com/amp/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/eus-charles-michel-hints-at-additional-sanctions-on-russian-oil-and-gas-sooner-or-later-articleshow.html&ved=2ahUKEwi_3KSF9P_2AhVbQvEDHWzPBC8QFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0NRurQAR7IcODsOJ-VF5Zs

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