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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #10

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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:10 pm

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    Post  jhelb Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:25 pm

    Do we have some clarity on what missile was used to shoot down the Su 35? Or was just electronic warfare that was employed.

    As an aside was in Germany this week, thousands of Russians living in Germany are taking to the streets in support of Russia.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:55 pm

    Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the long-serving rabble-rousing leader of Russia's parliamentary opposition LDPR party, died on Wednesday in Moscow, aged 75. He had spent over two months in hospital, suffering with coronavirus.

    Known for his outspoken nationalist views, he had long been the country's most popular non-governmental political figure, according to opinion polls. A staple on national television shows, his aggressive views on foreign policy and populist utterances on domestic concerns appealed to a considerable constituency.

    His death was announced on Wednesday by State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin, who led deputies in a minute's silence.

    Zhirik died
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:57 pm

    Kremlin: Withdrawal of Russian Forces From Kiev Region is Gesture of Goodwill to Facilitate Talks With Ukraine

    The withdrawal of Russian forces from the Kiev region is a gesture of goodwill to create favourable conditions at the Russia-Ukraine talks, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told French broadcaster LCI.

    He added that Russia is interested in Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "accepting" the conditions that were proposed at the negotiations and aims to end the military operation based on those conditions.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:07 pm

    EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell says the EU has given €35bn to Putin in energy payments since the start of the war, compared to €1bn given to Ukraine in arms and weapons

    lol!

    The EUCO president Charles Michel says that sanction measures on oil or gas will be needed "sooner or later"

    EU_Commission president Ursula says "we have to look into oil"
    but did not mention gas

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:08 pm

    jhelb wrote:Do we have some clarity on what missile was used to shoot down the Su 35? Or was just electronic warfare that was employed.

    As an aside was in Germany this week, thousands of Russians living in Germany are taking to the streets in support of Russia.

    There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125

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    Post  ludovicense Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:17 pm

    AZ Military News
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    ⚠🚨⚠In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden got stuck on Azovstal. They are contacting the Russian troops right now with a request to help them leave, organize a corridor to exit


    .....

    Very close to confirming what I suspected.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:35 pm

    Is Russia going to encircle Uki troops on Donbass now?
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    Post  Regular Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:36 pm

    ludovicense wrote:AZ Military News
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    ⚠🚨⚠In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden got stuck on Azovstal. They are contacting the Russian troops right now with a request to help them leave, organize a corridor to exit


    .....

    Very close to confirming what I suspected.

    There will be no corridor. I doubt about contact, could be a ruse for Azov to escape. Most likely they will have to join the rest of POWs and wait till they are identified and eventually - released. No one will execute them.

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    Post  Erk Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:44 pm

    Regular wrote:
    ludovicense wrote:AZ Military News
    @AZmilitary1
    ⚠🚨⚠In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden got stuck on Azovstal. They are contacting the Russian troops right now with a request to help them leave, organize a corridor to exit


    .....

    Very close to confirming what I suspected.

    There will be no corridor. I doubt about contact, could be a ruse for Azov to escape. Most likely they will have to join the rest of POWs and wait till they are identified and eventually - released. No one will execute them.

    It would be smart for the Russians to capture whoever the VIPs are, and get them on film, expose to the world.
    I am surprised Ukraine left the helicopter rescue until the last minute. They had weeks to get them out.

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    Post  ludovicense Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:58 pm

    Regular wrote:
    ludovicense wrote:AZ Military News
    @AZmilitary1
    ⚠🚨⚠In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden got stuck on Azovstal. They are contacting the Russian troops right now with a request to help them leave, organize a corridor to exit


    .....

    Very close to confirming what I suspected.

    There will be no corridor. I doubt about contact, could be a ruse for Azov to escape. Most likely they will have to join the rest of POWs and wait till they are identified and eventually - released. No one will execute them.

    Don't underestimate the power of politics. Nobody knows what actually happens behind the scenes.

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    Post  Mir Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:19 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    jhelb wrote:Do we have some clarity on what missile was used to shoot down the Su 35? Or was just electronic warfare that was employed.

    As an aside was in Germany this week, thousands of Russians living in Germany are taking to the streets in support of Russia.

    There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125

    The nosecone clearly indicates an Su-35S. The pictures do look a bit surreal but I do believe it to be for real. It appears the fighter hit the ground belly first so it was going down in a uncontrolled spin. Could even have been a technical issue?

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:34 pm

    Erk wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    ludovicense wrote:AZ Military News
    @AZmilitary1
    ⚠🚨⚠In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden got stuck on Azovstal. They are contacting the Russian troops right now with a request to help them leave, organize a corridor to exit


    .....

    Very close to confirming what I suspected.

    There will be no corridor. I doubt about contact, could be a ruse for Azov to escape. Most likely they will have to join the rest of POWs and wait till they are identified and eventually - released. No one will execute them.

    It would be smart for the Russians to capture whoever the VIPs are, and get them on film, expose to the world.
    I am surprised Ukraine left the helicopter rescue until the last minute. They had weeks to get them out.

    They were expecting Macron & co. to organize an evacuation

    Russia didn't allow it

    I suspect any NATO officers will be transferred to the Crimea, questioned on camera briefly, and then quietly let go; with a Turkish vessel being let into the Crimea to pick them up

    No footage will be released immediately at least, but it'll be kept around as a lever of pressure.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:35 pm

    Serberus wrote:
    Australia has in all but name declared war on Russia, they are not a NATO member state, its a military aircraft delivering weapons  to kill Russians, a legitimate target imo. But Russia wont do it.

    These tossers are a not even a paper tiger, like many of the US protectorates, just acting belligerently and way above their own means devoid of reality, I would love nothing more than to see them brought back down to earth.

    they are wetting their pampers because of Chin security guarantees with Salomon Islands lol1 lol1 lol1 and China is supporting Russia . And her such a nice unsinkable aircraft carrier ...




    And here Mariupol update Very Happy

    https://t.me/intelslava/24451?single

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:37 pm

    Mir wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    jhelb wrote:Do we have some clarity on what missile was used to shoot down the Su 35? Or was just electronic warfare that was employed.

    As an aside was in Germany this week, thousands of Russians living in Germany are taking to the streets in support of Russia.

    There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125

    The nosecone clearly indicates an Su-35S. The pictures do look a bit surreal but I do believe it to be for real. It appears the fighter hit the ground belly first so it was going down in a uncontrolled spin. Could even have been a technical issue?

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    I bring to question the claim it was shot down with a SA-3.  The wreckage would be far greater and more spread out.  This looks to be more like hit with something smaller, pilot ejected, and plane hit the ground.

    Regardless, the plane is destroyed but doesn't matter as it is replaceable.  The pilot isn't.

    Just to clarifiy my statements earlier regarding why Russia doesn't go all in and flatten the country like the collective west does:

    https://t.me/intelslava/24444

    These are the people who live on the ground. Very much alive and understandable people. They are our brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, grandparents, sons and daughters. The Russian government knows this and while the more die hard nationalists on this board whom I shall not name, want to bring Ukraine down to the level of Mogadishu, it far better to liberate them than destroy them.


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    Post  flamming_python Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:38 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Mir wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    jhelb wrote:Do we have some clarity on what missile was used to shoot down the Su 35? Or was just electronic warfare that was employed.

    As an aside was in Germany this week, thousands of Russians living in Germany are taking to the streets in support of Russia.

    There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125

    The nosecone clearly indicates an Su-35S. The pictures do look a bit surreal but I do believe it to be for real. It appears the fighter hit the ground belly first so it was going down in a uncontrolled spin. Could even have been a technical issue?

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    I bring to question the claim it was shot down with a SA-3.  The wreckage would be far greater and more spread out.  This looks to be more like hit with something smaller, pilot ejected, and plane hit the ground.

    Regardless, the plane is destroyed but doesn't matter as it is replaceable.  The pilot isn't.

    The pilot is reportedly captured.

    And who gives a shit about the plane - yes all this stuff is replaceable.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:41 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell says the EU has given €35bn to Putin in energy payments since the start of the war, compared to €1bn given to Ukraine in arms and weapons

    lol!

    The EUCO president Charles Michel says that sanction measures on oil or gas will be needed "sooner or later"

    EU_Commission president Ursula says "we have to look into oil"
    but did not mention gas


    Tiny correction:
    EU gave Ukro nazistan 1bln
    and bought from Russia for 35bln

    So actually EU paid nazis to kill Russians and Ukrainian anti fascists.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:43 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Mir wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    jhelb wrote:Do we have some clarity on what missile was used to shoot down the Su 35? Or was just electronic warfare that was employed.

    As an aside was in Germany this week, thousands of Russians living in Germany are taking to the streets in support of Russia.

    There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125

    The nosecone clearly indicates an Su-35S. The pictures do look a bit surreal but I do believe it to be for real. It appears the fighter hit the ground belly first so it was going down in a uncontrolled spin. Could even have been a technical issue?

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #10 - Page 13 0-fpbg10

    I bring to question the claim it was shot down with a SA-3.  The wreckage would be far greater and more spread out.  This looks to be more like hit with something smaller, pilot ejected, and plane hit the ground.

    Regardless, the plane is destroyed but doesn't matter as it is replaceable.  The pilot isn't.

    The pilot is reportedly captured.

    And who gives a shit about the plane - yes all this stuff is replaceable.

    The Pilot may be as good as dead or at least will never be able to fly a plane again. Hopefully some more level headed individuals in Ukraine will not bring harm to him but I doubt that as reason has left the military and nationalists head long ago.

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    Post  0nillie0 Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:48 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell says the EU has given €35bn to Putin in energy payments since the start of the war, compared to €1bn given to Ukraine in arms and weapons

    lol!

    The EUCO president Charles Michel says that sanction measures on oil or gas will be needed "sooner or later"

    EU_Commission president Ursula says "we have to look into oil"
    but did not mention gas

    Please provide sources whenever possible. Thanks in advance.
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    Post  jhelb Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:46 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125
    Ukro Nazi's S-300 was destroyed so they are only left with BUK.

    Maybe all the Russian fighter were shot down with BUK including the Su 34 and Su 27.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:55 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:There is some members saying it wasn't a su-35 and some saying it is, it's a bit of a debate. I posted a link a couple of pages back with an article saying it was taken down by a upgraded version of SA-3/ S-125
    Ukro Nazi's S-300 was destroyed so they are only left with BUK.

    Maybe all the Russian fighter were shot down with BUK including the Su 34 and Su 27.

    We do not know that all the S-300 are gone. They also have OSA with the BUK, all potentially lethal.

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    Post  par far Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:56 pm

    "The mayor of Volchansk (Kharkiv region) Anatoly Stepanets has previously prevented local residents from receiving humanitarian aid from the Russian military.

    Now he is detained by law enforcement agencies."

    https://t.me/intelslava/24442

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    Post  par far Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:57 pm

    "🇷🇺🇺🇦 Footage from Snigirevka, Mykolaiv region: The Russian Guard seized a huge amount of weapons and ammunition that the Armed Forces of Ukraine distributed to the civilian population during the retreat. Snigirevka, a city with a population of just over 12 thousand people (before the start of the special operation in Ukraine), is one of the first large settlements in the region that completely came under the control of the Russian Armed Forces."


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