Russian special military operation in Ukraine #10

Podlodka77 wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

kvs wrote:Warning graphic!


What a real murder scene looks like.   Not a single one of the "dead bodies" in Bucha lying on the street had any evidence
of spilled blood.   BTW, the same was true at Racak.   None of the dead "civilians" were killed in place.   They were dead UCK
dressed in civilian clothes and arranged to stage a scene.

MI6 and the frothing at the mouth British were probably involved at Racak as well.  

KVS, god damn it.

Dont take it personal, I really do not mean it like that.
I was doing everything myself to prevent this kind of content on here.

@ GarryB, to be clear. I do not judge KVS.
I understand absolutely why he posted it, and why he is enraged.
I was inches away from posting it myself...the brutal version. not even KVS his one.
I 100% understand his motivations and i honestly agree with it on an personal level.
But this remains an open forum, from an 3rd party supplier where there are obligations to keep to.

This war is absolutely brutal. with extreme graphic content out there.
Ukrainians do not shy away from anything.
We have situations now where Russian troops are executed, and those still convulsing holding on to life are made fun off.
and slowly tortured to near death, and executed again by Ukrainians.

What do you want to do?. that we "ban" that kind of execution/torture content here?.
Or that we are open about the information here?.

I understand both decisions, but you have to make one of the two decisions here.
And i understand its a shitty decision. As there is no pleasing everyone.

Perhaps you have an 3rd alternative to this issue?.

Sorry Garry, welcome to the War itself showing its true forms on your Forum.

KVS is an OK character and he is not a coward (like some others), it seems to me, but I don't like such links either. It is not clear to me and I wrote that a couple of weeks ago, that is, how can someone put a "like" under such a link. Do you like seeing Russian soldiers brutally killed? It's not clear to me. It's not KVS's fault, I'm surprised by those who put "like".

kvs wrote:To the sensitive people.  I recall posting with warnings similar videos in 2014/15.   There was never any rule on this forum not to post
links to graphic videos as long there was a warning attached.   If people want restrictions linking any graphic video then they can
petition the mods.   But I do not see what this achieves.   If the argument is that it is murder porn, then people looking for such porn
will find it elsewhere.   Here it has a context and is evidence.  

kvs wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:WATCH: Zelensky Defends Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in Fox Interview - ‘They Were Defending Our Country’

The clown is not innocent, he is complicit in this too

Just like Russia today declared Washington's vassals as protectorate, Zelensky is unnecessary to negotiate with and should be terminated by kalibr

He is complicit as a vassal carrying out the orders of the imperialists

And should be removed, as you would remove a commanding officer of enemy platoon

Yes he's not the general, but killing him would give a good lesson to those who think fueling this war and praising azov

The negotiations are theater.   Nobody in the Russian government is taking Zelensky seriously.   He is a sock puppet and the clowns
who have their hand up his ass are openly saying that they do not want any deals with Russia.  

Arkanghelsk wrote:

kvs wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:WATCH: Zelensky Defends Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in Fox Interview - ‘They Were Defending Our Country’

The clown is not innocent, he is complicit in this too

Just like Russia today declared Washington's vassals as protectorate, Zelensky is unnecessary to negotiate with and should be terminated by kalibr

He is complicit as a vassal carrying out the orders of the imperialists

And should be removed, as you would remove a commanding officer of enemy platoon

Yes he's not the general, but killing him would give a good lesson to those who think fueling this war and praising azov

The negotiations are theater.   Nobody in the Russian government is taking Zelensky seriously.   He is a sock puppet and the clowns
who have their hand up his ass are openly saying that they do not want any deals with Russia.  

Good , no negotiations,  the sock puppet should be blown up anyway

Broski wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Ukrainians have fought a good defensive battle

Using Ukrainian citizens as human shields, just like ISIS does.

Arkanghelsk wrote:The problem will be after destroying the VSU in donetsk, will medinsky and peskov shriek for more negotiations?

Already many like Ugrant and scum like chubais have resigned

But Peskov says they are not traitors

This peskov is an interesting kind of patriot

Airbornewolf wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

The Ukrainian regime is panicking due to the surrender of its marines in Mariupol

So now releases a bunch of snuff videos of Russian prisoners of war. I think these were recorded earlier in the war, it's not a co-incidence that we now have 3-4 videos released at once.

But it is our commander's military incompetence which allows prisoners to get captured and I hope these idiots are put on tribunal

I remember the Chechen war material. In most cases when Russians were captured, it was due to some mistake of their commander's that caused the situation. In some cases, it was due to demoralization or desertion.

Flamming, your got your moments of common sense that i really appreciate and like
This is not one of them.... and after some footage of today, i get somewhat agitated.

Your own countrymen get literally torn apart by savages while being POWS, and that is the RF commands fault?.
Brains removed with industrial tools, executions that failed, torture, execution again. troops fingers cut off, removal of sex organs?.

An RF major being tortured and beaten for two days straight untill he died of blood loss in front of his men?.

At witch point do you understand you are dealing with monsters that need to be purged from this world?.
or put in an labour camps to suffer for the rest of their natural lives?.
There are no excuses for the Ukrainians.

They either wave an white flag, or they get exterminated with any conventional means available. no exceptions.
And i mean that exactly as i say that: "Extermination".
Perhaps RF command should make clear tough, these Ukro "troops' still fighting are not "their people".
No surrender, keep the last bullet for yourself. Fight till the end.

it is time you recognize that what is the Ukraine government and Army. is the exact evil of WW2 Germany.
Bio-weapon research, desire for nuclear weapon use on Russia, etc.
Just dressed in an EU jacket and getting all the support of NATO and the US.

There has to be something in all of this that resonates with you being an Russian!?.

Arkanghelsk wrote:The problem will be after destroying the VSU in donetsk, will medinsky and peskov shriek for more negotiations?

Already many like Ugrant and scum like chubais have resigned

But Peskov says they are not traitors

This peskov is an interesting kind of patriot

flamming_python wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:The problem will be after destroying the VSU in donetsk, will medinsky and peskov shriek for more negotiations?

Already many like Ugrant and scum like chubais have resigned

But Peskov says they are not traitors

This peskov is an interesting kind of patriot

Peskov didn't say that Urgant was not a traitor, he said that he was a patriot

Of which country he's a patriot of though, Peskov didn't specify

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Some patriot, a rainbow patriot for sure

But it begs a question, what is peskov even talking about

flamming_python wrote:
The Ukrainian regime is panicking due to the surrender of its marines in Mariupol
So now releases a bunch of snuff videos of Russian prisoners of war. I think these were recorded earlier in the war, it's not a co-incidence that we now have 3-4 videos released at once.
But it is our commander's military incompetence which allows prisoners to get captured and I hope these idiots are put on tribunal
I remember the Chechen war material. In most cases when Russians were captured, it was due to some mistake of their commander's that caused the situation. In some cases, it was due to demoralization or desertion.

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
The Ukrainian regime is panicking due to the surrender of its marines in Mariupol
So now releases a bunch of snuff videos of Russian prisoners of war. I think these were recorded earlier in the war, it's not a co-incidence that we now have 3-4 videos released at once.
But it is our commander's military incompetence which allows prisoners to get captured and I hope these idiots are put on tribunal
I remember the Chechen war material. In most cases when Russians were captured, it was due to some mistake of their commander's that caused the situation. In some cases, it was due to demoralization or desertion.

The problem is, that they will get an effect opposite to desired.
The very first material publicized already put people in Russia into a gore mode.
What's more, it spread widely in China, bringing outrage and shock reactions.
More Ukros will show this kind of content, more the Russian society will be demanding harsh measures.
Kremlin is already kind of hostage towards sympathies of its own society, the applause for operation is flying high.
I suppose we will witness a kind of Spring Hurricane operation soon, as the general command would require rapid operation only to show what was the real reason behind withdrawing forces. And I expect a long lines of POWs very soon.

flamming_python wrote:

I think 'harsh measures' are what the Ukrainian regime tries to provoke. And the segment of ultra-patriots that can be counted upon to demand them - I'm looking at you Arkhangelsk - must be sidelined.

You win by not doing things in their interests. It requires discipline. But the myth of the Russian soldier, as a person who will never stoop to Nazi methods of war - is strong enough here. Maybe objectively, not true in every case, you always get psychos - but ultimately both officers, and their men, and society at large realize that acting like savages will make us no better than the enemy, and forfeit any hope of opening the eyes of Ukrainians as to where the real enemy nests.