Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9

d_taddei2 wrote:Just a thought I think Russia could utilise military police, cossack paramilitary units (25k approx),and possibly conscripts in Liberated areas freeing up contract soldiers to the frontline. De facto conscripts wouldn't be on frontline but providing additional policing and help with aid distribution, provide security on key infrastructure, and check points. I see nothing wrong with these three types of units being used as this, they would also benefit from the experience.

flamming_python wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Just a thought I think Russia could utilise military police, cossack paramilitary units (25k approx),and possibly conscripts in Liberated areas freeing up contract soldiers to the frontline. De facto conscripts wouldn't be on frontline but providing additional policing and help with aid distribution, provide security on key infrastructure, and check points. I see nothing wrong with these three types of units being used as this, they would also benefit from the experience.

- Russia is using military police in some areas. Exactly for policing, order and handing out humanitarian aid
- Conscripts are being asked to sign contracts apparently, but it's their choice. I suspect some conscripts are still involved in the operation anyway, at least in rear areas or logistics.
- Short-term military contracts are being offered to any volunteers with military experience, they plan to get several dozen thousand troops that way
- There is a Cossack regiment as part of the DNR or LNR armed forces, although it's a local one. The actual Cossack paramilitaries in Russia haven't been mobilized to my knowledge. But they can sign those short-term contracts and join the war that way.
- The main allied force on the ground is the DNR/LNR, but as I heard, many aren't keen on advancing past the Donbass borders. These are a mix of professionals and a rapidly levied male population. In regards to the later, some have already been transfered to around Kharkov, Chernigov, Kherson, even Kiev. There they're functioning as auxiliaries and helping establish a presence, although they're taking losses there too.

There is the possibility of a peace deal on the table, if the Ukraine becomes a neutral country. It's proposing to postpone the issue of Donbass and the Crimea for 15 years. Which basically means 15 years to become a pro-Russian country. That seems to be where the negotiations are gradually going.
A different question however is whether the West will let the Ukraine do this, and if its elites have enough independence to agree to this in the first place.

I'm skeptical due to this issue. And also about the issue of Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, Energodar, other places - where local administrations have already been formed or agreed to co-operate with Russia. If the same regime returns there, there will be a lot of reprisals.

magnumcromagnon wrote:[

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1509293977610035204

d_taddei2 wrote:A bit off topic but has Tor, Tunguska or S-300 taken down anything other than drones?

d_taddei2 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:[

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1509293977610035204

I see Ukraine are getting desperate that they are starting to use metal wheelie bins as armour.  Ukraine would be better to give up instantly s lost cause for sure.

d_taddei2 wrote:I see Ukraine are getting desperate that they are starting to use metal wheelie bins as armour.  Ukraine would be better to give up instantly s lost cause for sure.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:In the southwest there are terrain losses. Therefore, it is no wonder that many liberated Ukrainians do not Party out right in cheer. If the fascist Ukrainians come back, these people are killed.

The card does not like. So slowly, the problem of logistics would have to be noticeable on the Ukrainian side. ..

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/NovichokRossiya/status/1509292496848838659

mnztr wrote:

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/NovichokRossiya/status/1509292496848838659

I saw that, why can't they call in artillery?

mnztr wrote:

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/NovichokRossiya/status/1509292496848838659

I saw that, why can't they call in artillery?

Broski wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Check the likes and retweets etc, holy shit.

Well, at least they're winning the Twitter war, that's gotta count for something, right?

Russian soldiers don't carry their   phones with them while deployed, they're prohibited from doing so. But Ukrop troll farms already know how stupid and hungry for any anti-Russian propaganda their western audience is, so they'll continue to feed these pigs and collect their kopiykas.

kvs wrote:A replay of the post 1945 years in Galichina is not worth the pain.   Ukraine must be put in its natural borders attached to Poland.  
None of this insanity would have happened if the damned Bolsheviks did not create the absurdity known as Ukraine.  It was 100%
an anti-Russian project.  The Galichina dialect (aka Ukrainian) was forced on the concocted Soviet Ukraine.   Poland
already grabbed Ukraine in 1920 so there was never any reason to create a "Ukraine" from Malorussia and Novorussia.  

This military operation will be a total waste of soldiers and resources if there is any continuity of the country known as Ukraine
in its Soviet borders.   Any such country will roll back into the nationalist mode based on stealing Russian history and have
hate for Russia at its core as a natural consequence.   It really needs to be highlighted what an absurd construct "Ukraine"
is.  It is a piece of Russia being converted into a distinct ethnic group.   Unfortunately, this process has had 100 years to
take root.  

flamming_python wrote:
That's a Russian column, and a medevac MT-LB. Look like logistics vehicles.

You can see the O and the V

Early pic from the conflict, like 1st week or so

auslander wrote:'Twitter war' don't mean squat, all 'social media' are just verbal masturbation concealing massive boredom and misery. A pox on the lot of them, it's not for me.