Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9

teh_beard wrote:Meh.
I weren't able to find said article in Telegraph website to see potential photos - must have been washed down by other of this tabloid pieces. But I seem to remember a short video of a ribcage, spine and pelvis in tatters of distinctly Ukie camo pattern indeed nibbed by three mutt cubs. War is hell, tsk.
And bragerry of smolbrits trying to pass burnt Ukie APCs for Russian tanks is worth nothing.

Sorry, but what was left from the soldier is in Digital EMR. Russian gear and all. Ukrainians made like 30 videos of this, waited for crow to land and peck on flesh. Disgusting. They could at least cover it with dirt and mud. Russian side usually doesn't film such things. Well, DNR guys do, but not military.

Can't wait for these Bandertards to be unloaded on to the Poleriders

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/myrevolutionrus/status/1509275346088177678

Residents of Kyiv are evacuated from the city, maneuvering between anti-tank mines.

Is this what the "evacuation corridors" that Zelensky constantly mentions in video messages look like?

What a clown show!

"Soldiers of the Special Purpose Police Regiment named after the Hero of Russia Akhmat-Khadji Kadyrov, led by their commander, my dear BROTHER Zamid Chalayev, demonstrate excellent results in cleaning up Mariupol from the remnants of nationalists.
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Special assistance in this matter is provided to them by the captured "Azov", who provide valuable information about the positions of their former colleagues. The day before, thanks to such information, our fighters destroyed another enemy firing point and the crew of an infantry fighting vehicle. And I am sincerely glad for the success of our guys in the liberation of the long-suffering Mariupol.
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I am always pleased to observe the well-coordinated and effective actions of the fighters of the Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov regiment, who act under the competent leadership of Zamid Chalaev. They prove not in words but in deeds that they are real professionals who have no equal in courage and courage.
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Continue in the same spirit! Very soon victory will be ours! AKHMAT-POWER!"

https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/1695

Just a thought I think Russia could utilise military police, cossack paramilitary units (25k approx),and possibly conscripts in Liberated areas freeing up contract soldiers to the frontline. De facto conscripts wouldn't be on frontline but providing additional policing and help with aid distribution, provide security on key infrastructure, and check points. I see nothing wrong with these three types of units being used as this, they would also benefit from the experience.

franco wrote:There does seem to be some pull back in the Western media from the Big Lie however not in Canada https://globalnews.ca/news/8716376/russia-ukraine-information-war/

Canada is full of banderite Ukrop who fled there after WW2 and the final crushing of their ongoing insurgency in the early 50s.

Once Russia demolishes West Ukriane, maybe they need to consider extending the fight to cleanse the kanuckistanis?

Hopefully by then the majority of regular Canadians might have relaised who the Nazis are within their midst and might take matters into their own hands? Expel the nazis and tehir backers, and throw the compliant politicians out on their worthless arses...

d_taddei2 wrote:Just a thought I think Russia could utilise military police, cossack paramilitary units (25k approx),and possibly conscripts in Liberated areas freeing up contract soldiers to the frontline. De facto conscripts wouldn't be on frontline but providing additional policing and help with aid distribution, provide security on key infrastructure, and check points. I see nothing wrong with these three types of units being used as this, they would also benefit from the experience.

- Russia is using military police in some areas. Exactly for policing, order and handing out humanitarian aid
- Conscripts are being asked to sign contracts apparently, but it's their choice. I suspect some conscripts are still involved in the operation anyway, at least in rear areas or logistics.
- Short-term military contracts are being offered to any volunteers with military experience, they plan to get several dozen thousand troops that way
- There is a Cossack regiment as part of the DNR or LNR armed forces, although it's a local one. The actual Cossack paramilitaries in Russia haven't been mobilized to my knowledge. But they can sign those short-term contracts and join the war that way.
- The main allied force on the ground is the DNR/LNR, but as I heard, many aren't keen on advancing past the Donbass borders. These are a mix of professionals and a rapidly levied male population. In regards to the later, some have already been transfered to around Kharkov, Chernigov, Kherson, even Kiev. There they're functioning as auxiliaries and helping establish a presence, although they're taking losses there too.

There is the possibility of a peace deal on the table, if the Ukraine becomes a neutral country. It's proposing to postpone the issue of Donbass and the Crimea for 15 years. Which basically means 15 years to become a pro-Russian country. That seems to be where the negotiations are gradually going.
A different question however is whether the West will let the Ukraine do this, and if its elites have enough independence to agree to this in the first place.

I'm skeptical due to this issue. And also about the issue of Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, Energodar, other places - where local administrations have already been formed or agreed to co-operate with Russia. If the same regime returns there, there will be a lot of reprisals.

Poor pentagram. They do realize Missiles are fairly cheap and so while new tanks and planes were held back the Russians cranked out thousands of missiles and rockets. Now if this war goes on for a few more months Russia may be in trouble, but if it's over by the kickoff of American Gridiron football, mid September or maby even New Years Russia should be good to go

Broski wrote:

flamming_python wrote:There is the possibility of a peace deal on the table, if the Ukraine becomes a neutral country. 

There's no if at this point, the Ukraine will become a neutral country or it will cease to exist as a country.

It's proposing to postpone the issue of Donbass and the Crimea for 15 years. Which basically means 15 years to become a pro-Russian country. That seems to be where the negotiations are gradually going.

The Russian people would never forgive Putin if he agreed to such a stupid proposition.

A different question however is whether the West will let the Ukraine do this, and if its elites have enough independence to agree to this in the first place.

Obviously they(both the US and Ukrop oligarchs) would, but as always flamming_bandera, you're asking the wrong question. You're acting as though Russia would ever agree to such a deal after sacrificing over 1300+ good men so far to clean up the Ukraine's mess.

I'm skeptical due to this issue. And also about the issue of Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, Energodar, other places - where local administrations have already been formed or agreed to co-operate with Russia. If the same regime returns there, there will be a lot of reprisals.

Fortunately for them, the Zelensky regime wont be in power for much longer, nor will they have Neonazi death squads to impose their will on demoralized Ukrainians.

Well. I mean I don't know

You're naive if you think there aren't all sorts of agreements under the table already. And that a deal to swipe the Ukraine from a client of the west towards neutral status won't be risked for.

As for how it will be explained to the Russian people - I'm sure the elites will think of a way. All the hawks and patriotic sentiment and so on are just useful idiots for the powers that be.

But overall I'm skeptical

Broski wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:Poor pentagram.  They do realize Missiles are fairly cheap and so while new tanks and planes were held back the Russians cranked out thousands of missiles and rockets.  Now if this war goes on for a few more months Russia may be in trouble, but if it's over by the kickoff of American Gridiron football, mid September or maby even New Years Russia should be good to go

Russia has the capacity to manufacture 1000's of cruise and ballistic missiles per month, they would run out of bread before they ran out of armaments.

The US estimates are pure cold war propaganda tropes. Russia always has shortages and bread lines.

This tells you how much grip on reality these sanctimonious clowns have.

The west is so fucked.

"A new group of "Ukrainian refugees" arrived in Ireland. Apparently, the transfer of immigrants from third countries to the West due to the issuance of Ukrainian documents to applicants for a moderate price has acquired an industrial scale"

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/38166

"There is the possibility of a peace deal on the table, if the Ukraine becomes a neutral country. It's proposing to postpone the issue of Donbass and the Crimea for 15 years. Which basically means 15 years to become a pro-Russian country. That seems to be where the negotiations are gradually going.
A different question however is whether the West will let the Ukraine do this, and if its elites have enough independence to agree to this in the first place.

I'm skeptical due to this issue. And also about the issue of Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, Energodar, other places - where local administrations have already been formed or agreed to co-operate with Russia. If the same regime returns there, there will be a lot of reprisals."

That will never happen. Completely defeats the whole purpose and if you are banking on such a deal...unbelievable.

kvs wrote:Now that Russian forces are about to close the cauldron around the Ukr regime troops on the LDNR front, the US
is ramping up tension on the border of Ukraine with a build up of B-52 flights.   This is clearly and attempt to
save the hides of the regime.   What do the clowns in Washington expect to accomplish?  Are they going to
launch missiles into Ukraine against Russian forces?   Do they think their B-52s will not be shot down?  

Not only that their bases will be attacked as well. It will pretty much mean war. Maybe Russia will launch TU-160s and obliterate US bases in Syria.