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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:17 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:The bastard of Biden calling to overthrow Putin in Russia. This guy is sick.

    "Putin must go"

    Well that sort of line didn't work out too well over the last 10 years

    I can see it now, 2030, Zelensky, Bidet, and Borish "tiny" Johnson will be in holding cells at the Hague, and a Putin appointed tribunal will be presiding over their trials for crimes against peace.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:19 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:The bastard of Biden calling to overthrow Putin in Russia. This guy is sick.

    Methinks he is not going to enjoy election day too much.  Food prices and empty shelves at the grocery store, housing crisis, and ballooning gas prices and his failings at doing anything to stop COVID strongly point to a dominant GOP victory.  The good news is he is probably done as the government will be even more insanely gridlocked starting in January 2023.  The problem is that the GOP is even more psychotic on military policy than the Dumbocraps.


    If Trump leads the Republicans again, they will not have an aggressive policy. I'm sure Donald would have fixed this crisis with a phone call with Putin. It's that simple.

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    Post  lyle6 Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:19 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    "Putin must go"

    Well that sort of line didn't work out too well over the last 10 years
    By transitive property it would be invoking the Assad curse. Prepare for a Kamala presidency.

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    Post  Isos Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:25 pm

    Autodestruct wrote:
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    Isos wrote:Impressive. S-400 is firing 90° upwards.

    How come it came so close to Sevastopol in the first place??? S-400 should have shot down the drone at least a 100 km away from the city.

    Russian air defense is being very careful to make sure it is a valid target.  Russia is being subjected to complete demonization.  The last thing they need is to shoot down some business jet or something like that which is off course and not answering comms.  

    Well I see two scenario here :

    An cnemy civilian drone like those small quadcoptzrs that you can buy online and used by special ops to spy on russian navy there.

    Or it's a russian exercice with similar drones to test their reaction time like iranian did aroubd their nuclear plants.


    Seeing how the missiles go straight on the target and not taking a path trying to intercept it means it was a stationary target flying at low altitude which would confirm it's a small quadcopter. The drone isn't visible so it confirms it's small drone. Tb-2 or other are visible at such distances.

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    Post  owais.usmani Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:31 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Autodestruct wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Isos wrote:Impressive. S-400 is firing 90° upwards.

    How come it came so close to Sevastopol in the first place??? S-400 should have shot down the drone at least a 100 km away from the city.

    Russian air defense is being very careful to make sure it is a valid target.  Russia is being subjected to complete demonization.  The last thing they need is to shoot down some business jet or something like that which is off course and not answering comms.  

    Well I see two scenario here :

    An cnemy civilian drone like those small quadcoptzrs that you can buy online and used by special ops to spy on russian navy there.

    Or it's a russian exercice with similar drones to test their reaction time like iranian did aroubd their nuclear plants.


    Seeing how the missiles go straight on the target and not taking a path trying to intercept it means it was a stationary target flying at low altitude which would confirm it's a small quadcopter. The drone isn't visible so it confirms it's small drone. Tb-2 or other are visible at such distances.

    You telling me they fired 2 S-400 missiles on a small quadcopter?

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:35 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
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    4. Yes, a flying truck that was in service longer than I've been in this world. Not sure if armouring them would be wise, maybe stick some EW equipment as main adversaries for it are SHORAD systems.

    It does need good armour. Can get pelted with HMG fire on approach, as what happened on day 1

    And of course a Vitebsk system and more countermeasures can't hurt, for those Mi-8s in VDV service

    There is an armour package for mi-8 Kevlar plates were attached to vital parts of the aircraft. The thing with the mi-8 is its supposed to carry troops and cargo and covering the whole thing in armour would nullify it's designed role. I agree with adding the Vitebsk system and Kevlar plates on vital areas but these will only protect from 7.62mm and maybe 12.7 mm but it's better than nothing.

    Not all Mi-8s. Just the ones used for airborne landings in hot-zones

    Yes I remember the kevlar upgrade. Don't know if it was fitted.

    It's an optional package. I believe it's on the armed versions, and most likely for special forces airdrops. But the rest of fleet most likely wouldn't need it, would just be wasting fuel.

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    Post  franco Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:42 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:


    You telling me they fired 2 S-400 missiles on a small quadcopter?

    No, a small quadcopter would not have the range. They might have tried one of those old Soviet UAV's with an explosive device that went to Croatia.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:15 pm

    Hole wrote:
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    Comment on Twitter: "If they use Iskanders on that they can´t be runnig oput of missiles soon." Very Happy


    C'mon, we both know this bullshit and that hit has nothing with Iskander ...

    It was stated by the Russian MoD that the Buk-M1 launcher was hit by an Iskander.

    Isn't that a bit overkill iskander taking out a single BUK. Surely anti radiation missile would have been cheaper.
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    Post  Hole Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:16 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
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    It was stated by the Russian MoD that the Buk-M1 launcher was hit by an Iskander.

    Where? scratch

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/20223261329-VoE9V.html
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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:19 pm

    Autodestruct wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Isos wrote:Impressive. S-400 is firing 90° upwards.

    How come it came so close to Sevastopol in the first place??? S-400 should have shot down the drone at least a 100 km away from the city.

    Russian air defense is being very careful to make sure it is a valid target.  Russia is being subjected to complete demonization.  The last thing they need is to shoot down some business jet or something like that which is off course and not answering comms.  

    Ukrainian airspace is closed. Anything flying into the airspace can be considered a target, and no civilian aircraft would be stupid enough to fly into it, and if it did then there can't be any comeback they were warned. I would also imagine neighboring countries with have a small airspace buffer zone right now something like 10-20km from Ukrainian borders

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    Post  Hole Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:21 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Comment on Twitter: "If they use Iskanders on that they can´t be runnig oput of missiles soon." Very Happy


    C'mon, we both know this bullshit and that hit has nothing with Iskander ...

    It was stated by the Russian MoD that the Buk-M1 launcher was hit by an Iskander.

    Isn't that a bit overkill iskander taking out a single BUK.  Surely anti radiation missile would have been cheaper.

    Tell that Shoigu. The Buk launcher was monitored by a small drone. Maybe they tried something. Faster data delivery to the launcher unit or so. dunno

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    Post  Hole Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:22 pm

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    Bridge south of Kiev
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    Kh-101
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    Sky above Kiev

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    Post  Hole Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:24 pm

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    Ossetians!
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    Some people ban Tschaikovsky but we like Vivaldi

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:27 pm

    Hole wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Comment on Twitter: "If they use Iskanders on that they can´t be runnig oput of missiles soon." Very Happy


    C'mon, we both know this bullshit and that hit has nothing with Iskander ...

    It was stated by the Russian MoD that the Buk-M1 launcher was hit by an Iskander.

    Isn't that a bit overkill iskander taking out a single BUK.  Surely anti radiation missile would have been cheaper.

    Tell that Shoigu. The Buk launcher was monitored by a small drone. Maybe they tried something. Faster data delivery to the launcher unit or so. dunno

    The Buk it seems was on a suicide mission parked out in the open on a ploughed field where it stuck out like a sore thumb.
    I think Russia has to be careful of fakes/decoy's Ukraine seems willing to try anything. And a fake could easily be a an old rusting vehicle sitting in a military scrapyard towed into position.
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    Post  Hole Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:30 pm

    The thing was monitored by a drone. I´m pretty sure they followed the launcher for a while before calling in the strike.

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    Oil depot in Rivne region hit.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:38 pm

    Hole wrote:The thing was monitored by a drone. I´m pretty sure they followed the launcher for a while before calling in the strike.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8 - Page 15 Fozvjx10
    Oil depot in Rivne region hit.

    Not saying this bombing but it's something that Russia needs to be aware of.

    And it's very odd for AD system that has been using the tactics of hide and seek to suddenly want to move across a ploughed field where it is clearly seen. That's also what I was getting at.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:40 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8 - Page 15 Foy00z10
    Bridge south of Kiev

    May not be near Kiev. This poster says the photo above is one bridge and below the other.

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    U.S. officials said that Ukrainian forces battled back to contest the town this week after it first fell into 🇷🇺 control.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:49 pm

    Re the second 60 or so surrender near Kiev

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    I am pretty sure it’s a new mass surrender. The one a week ago was 67 officers from an command/communications post near #Kiev. This is the fresh one. (a) they don’t look like officers; (b) the first group had already been processed. I could be wrong, of course, but…

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    The weather was completely diff in the vid of 67 officers. Cloudy. And its 61 this time not 67

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:51 pm

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    #FLASH—#IZYUM—First #Russia|n humanitarian convoy enters the city. Although some mop-up operations continue (despite formal control—admitted by #Ukraine—of #RF forces over the city), the humanitarian situation was catastrophic. The aid could not wait.

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    Post  Isos Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:59 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Autodestruct wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Isos wrote:Impressive. S-400 is firing 90° upwards.

    How come it came so close to Sevastopol in the first place??? S-400 should have shot down the drone at least a 100 km away from the city.

    Russian air defense is being very careful to make sure it is a valid target.  Russia is being subjected to complete demonization.  The last thing they need is to shoot down some business jet or something like that which is off course and not answering comms.  

    Ukrainian airspace is closed. Anything flying into the airspace can be considered a target, and no civilian aircraft would be stupid enough to fly into it, and if it did then there can't be any comeback they were warned. I would also imagine neighboring countries with have a small airspace buffer zone right now something like 10-20km from Ukrainian borders

    Actually there are plenty of stupid pilots and companies. The Malaisian plane that was downed was flying in the middle of Donbas when downed eventhough use of air defence in the area was common at the time.

    Also the jamming in the area could lead them to fly in Ukraine. They rely a lot on GPS. It's a matter of few minutes and civiliab plabes are static targets for S-300/400 or buks that have missiles flying at mach 4 or more.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:03 pm

    Middle generator changed for NLAWs before the Ukie border perhaps?

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    🚨 UK will provide addl 6,000 missiles to Ukraine, in addition to 4,000 NLAW's & Javelin missiles already supplied. Lethal defensive military aid, including Starstreak high-velocity anti-air missiles, will help Ukrainians continue to defend themselves: UK PM Boris Johnson

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    More mobile generators heading to Ukraine.

    They will provide much needed energy to hospitals, shelters and water treatment plants which have lost power during the ongoing Russian invasion.

    The UK Government is donating more than 500 units.


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    From the statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:

    - Nationalists in Kramatorsk fired on a car delivering water, three people were injured;

    - Neo-Nazis plan to blow up the Khadzhibey dam in Odessa;


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:08 pm

    Lucky men

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:17 pm

    Just when you need some NATO minesweepers!

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    The Turkish Navy sent minesweepers Akçay M270, Akçakoca M268 and Amasra M266 to the Black Sea for control minesweeping near the Bosphorus

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    Post  Urluber Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:19 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:The bastard of Biden calling to overthrow Putin in Russia. This guy is sick.

    Yes, delusional.
    It will sure be a pleasant moment when Biden is kicked out and Putin still rules Very Happy

    But this statement should be noted nevertheless. More and more masks are removed. Their target is destruction of Russia. Most have known this always but know they are saying it clearer than maybe ever since 1940s.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:22 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Lucky men


    Those don't have detonators.
    Sadly Laughing

    Hole wrote:
    Tell that Shoigu. The Buk launcher was monitored by a small drone. Maybe they tried something. Faster data delivery to the launcher unit or so. dunno

    Yeah, that might be the issue, but if true - it opens a whole new window of opportunity.
    Shooting a ballistic missile towards a mobile SAM system means that you can retarget it if needed ...
    Or guide What a Face
    Yeah, I have heard about that option ... but if true, that is mindblowing.

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