Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #3

The frigate "Admiral Isakov" is planned to be launched in the first half of 2024

https://ria.ru/20230920/fregat-1897600803.html

Now they need to get Adm Isakov launched. No more BS excuses. Get it done, or else start arresting and jailing the management at Severnaya Verf.

In some ways, it's a good thing they didn't launch it

Think about it, what takes up more resources and experience, creating, testing, setting up production lines, training, and producing marine gas turbine engines

Or launching a hull?

Launching a hull is a task which can be done by most shipyards around the world

Launching a hull is not too difficult, granted, metal work is a precision science, but it can be mastered for the most part by most nations with a shipbuilding industry

But manufacture of MGT and associated powertrain and drive train is a difficult endeavor

And if you recall, the MOD itself launched a lawsuit against Pella Shipyard and the Zvezda engine maker, precisely because Pella just wanted to launch a bunch of hulls to get paid,

But the engine production and installation was completely ignored, leading to a huge delay in project 22800

So it's better to have the engine issue sorted, before giving a Shipyard tons of money to launch hulls that will sit in docks for 10 years, because the corrupt Shipyard doesn't care whether the ship becomes functional at project end,

They just want their money to move onto the next project, and they don't assume any accountability over it

So while launching a hull for a big ship like 22350 is no easy task, it's certainly not the bottleneck on the production side

The engines are infinitely more important to sort before continuing to project, and judging by Admiral Golovkos performance, it seems Russian shipbuilding industry has made a massive breakthrough in this area

Once all the finicky details are sorted out they should be able to order them in much larger batches where one shipyard might get an order for 6 to 10 at least and if they do a good job then a follow on order for the same or more.

Making one off ships is slow and expensive, but serial mass production of one type is where they make money because new problems don't come up generally.

why can russia produce reduction gears for the turbines for nuclear submarines with extreme quieting and precision requirements but has problems with reduction gears for gas turbines

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Now I have not read much about it, but a few years ago it was reported however that the company Zvezda in Sankt Petersburg had instead problems with the naval reduction gears for the 22350 engines.

limb wrote:why can russia produce reduction gears for the turbines for nuclear submarines with extreme quieting and precision requirements but has problems with reduction gears for gas turbines

All I've heard are unspecific rumours from internet "sources" that are much less than authoritative.

Golovko sea trials seems to be going well.  Sounds to me like the usual trash talking from NAFO wretches and the (few remaining) Russian 5th columnists.

Have heard the propulsion systems on the new Royal Navy Destroyers are awful and those ships can be heard via sonar from enormous distances, not to mention they break down operating in warmer waters, and reliability problems in other areas.

We have seen in this conflict that the Russian military finds problems and gets solutions and doesn't ignore issues or brush them under the mat like the west does.

If there are real problems then solutions will be on the way.