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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:50 am

    Shows us how stupid the rest of us are though doesn't it?

    All Stalin had to do was have an internal investigation into the gulags and all the criminal activity of the Soviet Union and find themselves innocent and that would have solved a lot of problems from the Cold War...

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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:47 pm

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2021/greenhouse-gas-emissions-pledges-data/

    The Washington Post propaganda rag keeps pushing the narrative that Russia is some out of control CO2 emissions source.
    This is a blood libel lie.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-92152-9

    Assuming an unchanged total forest area (721.7 × 106 ha) in 1988 and 2014, we conclude that Russian forests have
    accumulated 1,163 × 106 m3 yr-1 or 407 Tg C yr-1 in live biomass of trees on average over 26 years.

    407 Tg = 0.407 Gt of C

    0.407 x 44/12 = 1.49 Gt of CO2

    So Russia's forests are absorbing 1.49 Gt of CO2 per year.   Russia's emissions are under 2 Gt of CO2 per year.

    https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/russia-co2-emissions/

    They were 1.66 Gt/year in 2016.

    Russia's CO2 and CH4 emissions are linked with its exports of gas and oil.   So these emissions are the burden of the consumers
    of those fossil fuels and not Russia all by itself.   This is an example of the sort of pathological innocence posturing by western
    Russia haters, who are all bloody hypocrites.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:57 pm

    Russia is a world leader in nuclear technology which is zero emission while Germany had to restart coal powerplants...

    Who is more emission free?

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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:21 am

    Russia's CO2 and CH4 emissions are linked with its exports of gas and oil. So these emissions are the burden of the consumers
    of those fossil fuels and not Russia all by itself. This is an example of the sort of pathological innocence posturing by western
    Russia haters, who are all bloody hypocrites.

    The west trying to shoot itself in the foot again... if you are going to count oil and gas exported from Russia as contributing to emissions that cause green house gases then you are double counting those emissions when you include them for the countries that are using said gas and oil.

    But obviously Russia should care what the west worries about so a 50% extra charge on gas sales to Europe and the UK and US because they are the ones complaining, and that money generated could be put to renewable energy resources and planting trees in Russia... I am sure they wont mind funding such things...

    The fact that Russia is already investing in such things is also being ignored but who cares?

    Russia is a world leader in nuclear technology which is zero emission while Germany had to restart coal powerplants...

    Who is more emission free?

    The west will be anti nuclear energy generation until they have the capacity and technology to do the same as what Russia can and reprocess the waste into fuel in a 100% recyclable system.

    Imagine a ship or sub with unlimited nuclear power... its nuclear pile is designed to burn the nuclear fuel rods in the core of the pile which recharges the spent nuclear rods around the outside... you would set sail with all fuelled rods... or perhaps save money and have fuelled rods in the core and spent rods from a civilian power station around the outside essentially being recharged by the fuel rods in the reactor powering the sub... by the time the fuel rods powering the sub are spent the spent rods around the pile will be recharged and ready to be swapped with the spent rods in the core... push a button and they swap places automatically and continue operating the sub... forever... who needs fusion?
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:03 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/540162-hypersonic-nukes-germany-moscow/

    UK tabloid cheers US hypersonic nukes in Germany, shows mushroom cloud over Moscow

    UK papers are hyping the revival of a Cold War-era US artillery unit in Germany, supposed to be armed with ‘Dark Eagle’ hypersonic missiles that will be able reach Moscow in mere minutes, once they are developed.

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    Post  kvs Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:38 pm

    Retards.

    The mushroom clouds will be popping up all over the EU capitals if any such attack is made.

    Routinely western blowhard paranoiacs talk as if an attack on Russia will preclude a response. These
    f*cktards have no desire to buy a clue.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:20 am

    higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/540162-hypersonic-nukes-germany-moscow/

    UK tabloid cheers US hypersonic nukes in Germany, shows mushroom cloud over Moscow

    UK papers are hyping the revival of a Cold War-era US artillery unit in Germany, supposed to be armed with ‘Dark Eagle’ hypersonic missiles that will be able reach Moscow in mere minutes, once they are developed.

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    The Sun, It is like Elliot Carver's media empire from Jame's bond Tommorow Never Dies.
    Like Elliot the Sun would promote the war of the british navy against china like an glorious imperial march to snuff out an insect.
    Only to find the next day the Chinese navy experienced the British navy just like an traffic speed bump on their way to engage their main adversary.

    Anyone promoting nuclear war is not sane in the head to begin with for starters..
    my personal viewpoint is, i push in the key, and break the key.
    I will not murder thousands or millions by blindly following orders.
    There is no point, the war was lost as soon the missiles started flying.

    Ever seen Europe from Space?.
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    That is an target-rich enviroment.

    Europe can not have, or take nuclear weapons.
    We will not survive it.

    It is time Europe realised Americans are the cancer on the EU continent.
    no offense to U.S servicemen, but the American Foreign policy is an monstrosity.
    Throwing a big fit about Cuba at the time,

    But Moscow is to accept the reverse? seriously?.
    Not to mention that damn U.S VLS facility in Romania that is capable of launching nuclear Tomahawks.
    https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/aegis-ashore/

    Nuclear war, Is really starting armageddon.
    There are no brakes and there is no cancel button.
    Once it starts, the cycle of escalation will force it to happen.

    If the blast doest not kill you, the radiation will.
    The Gamma radiation will damage your cells, At best. takes some years off your life.
    average?. gives you cancer. At worst?. will start to liquify the cells in your body.
    If you experience this you wish you caught the bomb yourself as it detonated.

    This sun article is one example, how an modern media just does not even understand the basics of nuclear weapon exchange.
    Its disgracefull and irresponsible really.
    Like how they portray it like its an first strike weapon, and how to their readers face no consequences of such weapon systems and the threat or provocation it forms to Russia in this case.
    Media like this should be lunged upon by governments for dangerous rethoric.

    But yet, ...here we are.

    Nuclear weapons are society-ending weaponry.
    Plain and simple, it should be viewed as such.

    There was this nuclear wargame called Defcon, i played it myself at the time.
    Its an really laymans explanation of the moral implications, But gives you an bit of an idea.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:14 am

    So its flight speed is given as 13,043 miles per hour, so times 1.6 equals 20,868km/h, divided by 60 equals 347km per minute and divided by 60 again is 5.79km/s so a bit too fast for S-400 to intercept because it is rated at 4.8km per second targets, but the ABM system around Moscow can deal with ICBMs and SLBMs which means 5.79km/s should not be a problem, and of course the new S-500 which is entering service now in comparison to this vapourware from the US can engage targets moving at 7km/s... so this threat would be dealt with as it passes Kaliningrad I suspect, and the response would be devastating.

    The word blitz with a launch from German is interesting language... the British supporting a German genocide of Russian people again as they have done through most of their history... it does not reflect very well.... what is next a German missile launch against Israel with comments like back into the ovens for the untermension...

    Imagine how apeshit the west would go if it was a Russian paper talking about murdering Europeans or Americans?

    The Sun is dogshit.

    Is it ironic that the final solution to European subservience to the US might be the extermination of the continent in a nuclear war they start themselves at the insistence of the US because the US can see no other way to stop the Chinese silk roads boosting wealth and trade between Europe and Asia for the betterment of countries in both regions and on the trade routes themselves.

    Any country on those trade routes will benefit from cheaper quicker easier trade with countries at each end of that silk road and any countries along that road in either direction... this is going to be enormous but not for the US which isn't part of the Silk road and they hate it.
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    Post  kvs Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:30 am

    The ABM obsession has rotted the brains of western planners. They seem to think that MAD has been replaced with ABM games.
    So if Russia does not have the ABM response, then it has lost. What total and utter nonsense. Russia will take the precious west
    out MAD-style.

    MAD is truly the best thing since it limits attempts to start and win nuclear wars. But that requires a certain level of sanity on the
    part of the nuclear victor wannabes. I think the NATzO west is leaving the sanity reservation.

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    Post  Hole Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:16 pm

    The No. 1 problem with the defence against hypersonic weapons isn´t if your interceptor missile is fast enough but the reaction time of the whole AD/ABM system. A Zircon lanched 800 km from a ship gives the captain 4 minutes to react. IF the ship detects the missile in the second of launch, which is not very likely with a ship and the radar horizon and so on. In this scenario, a missile launched from Germany at Moscow, the russian long-range and OTH radars (like Voronesh, Konteyner, Don-2 and Razyazka) will see it instantly which will give the AD/ABM systems enough time to react.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:08 am

    And more importantly even if they fail... a nuclear weapon exploding in Moscow would lead immediately to thousands of nuclear weapons being launched at Europe, which makes it a very stupid and futile act for anyone in Europe... does the UK think they will be spared in such a situation?

    The UK is part of HATO and even the US will be attacked because the weapon used was American... and that is the hilarious thing... think about it...

    A UK newspaper crowing about a US attack on Russia from Germany that would likely immediately lead to the destruction of the EU, closely followed by the destruction of the US... or are they so stupid to think the country that spent 4 years fighting actual german soldiers rather than hiding on their little island acting as a base for American bombers to murder german women and children and old people, in places like Leningrad and Stalingrad and Kursk and Kiev about a half dozen times that suddenly a surprise attack on Moscow might make them surrender?

    In fact if Russia is smart they will look at this and the solution is pretty damn clear... an Iskander with a 10MT nuclear warhead located in Kaliningrad... the Americans can't hide anything so any launch would be known about in advance so as they launch it.... fire an Iskander into its path with a 10MT nuclear warhead... blow it up as close to the German border and you can... and then launch a follow up missile to vapourise Brussels and US nuclear storage sites over Europe.
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:51 am

    @Garry: Systema Perimeter ? bounce
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:03 am

    I am not sure if you have noticed one fact.
    You are discussing something that does not exist.
    They don't have this weapon, and won't have it at any point in the predictable future.
    The whole reinstallation of an artillery unit in Germany is pure propaganda, and what is the funniest part of the whole story, it reached the level of Russian propaganda stories of the 90s.
    They were presenting some charts, mockups, and a Captain Bear stories about "nie imiejuszczych analogow w mirie" shreds of the Soviet heritage, in need to interest anyone in that, to keep living.
    Now, the Muricans are doing just the same, and this is actually a very sad observation of a used-to-be proud and powerful nation, science and industry.
    And what we already know, those non-existing Wunderwaffe they present, are already compromised by existing systems Russia has, and this gap will only widen.

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    Post  Hole Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:07 pm

    The "reporters" of this tabloid would get a stroke and collapse if Russia would announce that it puts a unit with land-based Zirkon missiles into Kaliningrad. Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:20 pm

    Russian tabloids have just the same level of idiocy, just like all the others.
    There is really nothing to hype about.
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:39 pm



    Germany is a lost cause.   Die Welt has revised history to claim that the Red Army did not have to stop German forces
    taking Moscow because the German forces never showed up.  

    Die Welt also fakes up some history that all that the Red Army did was loot and pillage.

    This propaganda article even claims that Stalin was served a ton of alcohol in a single evening as German forces
    were pushing deep into the USSR in October of 1941.

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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:23 pm



    Norway is crapping its panties accusing Russia of removing a 4.3 km section of a submarine detection network cable.
    The whole accusation is a retarded plausibility argument: since Russia has the ability, then Russia must have done it.

    1) Why did this detection network fail to detect any Russian submarines which supposedly sabotaged it?

    2) How would Norway know if US neocons were not responsible? They love to instigate conflict around the world.

    3) What evidence is there that this section of cable was ever laid in the first place? Just because the contractor
    claimed it was laid does not prove that it was. This goes together with point (1) above.

    The hate propaganda that permeates the west 24/7 enables all sorts of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories to be
    invoked by western trash states.

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    Post  Hole Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:11 pm

    Russia back as a superpower is the best thing ever for western politicians. Someone to blame for all your own failings!

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:30 pm

    The overall problem in that, folks, is that you mostly seem to forget the history. dunno
    I have a short lecture for you.
    Find&check the "satiric" pictures created towards Russia in let's say whole Laughing XIX century.
    XIX century is Anglosaxon one. They made the narrative and content. A "tabloid" term is made then&there. It was something to warm up the mob. To create the enemy, boil the mob, and push them to the line of troopers.
    Each and any time, when Russian interest and sphere of influence was presented - it faced a harsh reply by the Anglosaxons.
    Because the whole world was an Anglosaxon sphere of interest.
    The only difference now, is the fact that UK functionally bankrupted in two global wars, leaving the US cousins to carry on the flag.
    They will continue to portrait Russia in any way they will find convenient for the goals.
    We already facing a change in narrative, because 5+ years ago, it used to be even more psyhotic.
    Not sure if I will give the meaning of that, but it was something like that: there is no other bankrupted, dying and irrelevant ex-superpower, that can influence a whole world, same time, and all according to own will.
    So just take your popcorn&beer. It only warms up.
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    Post  Arrow Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:40 am

    Russia was the only power at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries to retain the status of a big military power. Of course, they did not have colonies as such, but they themselves had a huge territory, which they have largely preserved to this day. Even the collapse of the USSR did not cause the collapse of Russia, although it was close. Today, Russia is already the 5th economy in the world and one of the largest military forces, still with a vast territory thanks to which they have close access to many strategic places. The former colonial powers can only be envied. In the last 20 years, Russia has been rebuilding its position very quickly after the collapse of the USSR.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:21 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/540888-russian-troops-ukraine-winter/

    Russia set to launch winter invasion of Ukraine, US media claims

    Russia is growing more inclined to invade Ukraine now that colder days are approaching, a weekend American media report has claimed. Western officials have accused Russia of staging a military buildup along Kiev’s eastern borders.

    The likelihood of a potential Russian assault on Ukraine is “increasing as the weather gets colder,” CBS News reported on Saturday, citing the customary unnamed US intelligence “sources.” Quite why Moscow would choose the coldest months of the year, with the shortest days, is left unclear.

    “An incursion is weather-dependent, but could happen in a matter of weeks, barring intervention from the West,” it continued.

    US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Wednesday urged Moscow to “be more transparent on the buildup of the forces around on the border of Ukraine.” Austin added that he was “not sure exactly” about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plan of action.

    Ukraine initially refused to back the reports in US media about the buildup of Russian troops, but later changed its tune. Brigadier General Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s chief military intelligence officer, told the Military Times on Sunday that Russia is preparing to attack Ukraine by the end of January or the beginning of February.

    The Ukrainian military produced a map showing how Russia in a “short-term perspective” could invade Ukraine from all directions, including an incursion from the territory of Belarus.

    Russia has denied amassing troops along the Ukrainian border. When reports of possible preparation for an invasion began appearing in US media this month, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova dismissed them as “fake” news that she said was part of a larger disinformation campaign waged against Russia.

    In an interview broadcast on Rossiya-1 TV channel on Sunday, Dmitry Peskov, the spokesperson for the Kremlin, said the West was “artificially stoking hysteria.”

    Heightened tensions between Russian and the West have coincided with a refugee crisis on the Polish-Belarusian border. This saw up to 4,000 would-be asylum seekers, most of whom are from the Middle East, gathering near the frontier, in the hope of reaching Poland. Some even pelted guards and police with stones.

    EU officials have accused Belarus of effectively engineering the crisis as part of its hybrid warfare against the bloc. Minsk replying by saying the EU was waging a hybrid war of its own by supporting Belarusian opposition figures and anti-government media.

    The Polish Border Guard revealed on Thursday that the refugee camp had been cleared. On Saturday, it reported that around 100 “very aggressive foreigners, brought to the border by the Belarusian authorities” had tried to force their way into Poland.
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:02 pm

    Western Orwellian drivel.   Russia has clearly stated that it will only respond when the Kiev regime starts its ethnic cleansing
    operation against the Donbass.   Thus, Russia's response fits in the responsibility to protect category and humanitarian law.
    That the western lie factory media is totally omitting any mention of Kiev's regime open plans for a final solution to the
    Donbass problem demonstrates its total lack of c-r-e-d-e-b-i-l-i-t-y.

    BTW, Russia insists that the Kiev regime abide by its obligations under the Minsk Accords. These categorize the Donbass
    as an internal Ukrainian problem. Russia has no interest in invading and it is NATzO and its Kiev proxies that are grossly
    violating the Minsk Accords. In fact, NATzO wants Russia to re-negotiate them to insert itself as the conflict party and let
    Kiev wash its hands clean of its responsibilities.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:04 am

    AS usual, western think tanks project their own behaviour on those they perceive as the enemy...

    The US set to launch winter invasion of Ukraine, US media claims

    The US is growing more inclined to invade Ukraine now that colder days are approaching, a weekend American media report has claimed. Western forces are staging a military buildup along Kiev’s eastern borders.

    The likelihood of a potential US assault on Ukraine is “increasing as the weather gets colder,” CBS News reported on Saturday, citing the customary unnamed US intelligence “sources.” Quite why US would choose the coldest months of the year, with the shortest days, is stupidity and poor understanding of history.

    “An incursion is weather-dependent, but could happen in a matter of weeks, barring intervention the of common sense,” it continued.

    US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Wednesday urged Moscow to “be more transparent on the buildup of the forces around on the border of Ukraine.” Austin added that he was “not sure exactly” about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plan of action.

    Ukraine initially refused to back the reports in US media about the buildup of US troops, but later changed its tune. Brigadier General Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s chief military intelligence officer, told the Military Times on Sunday that the US is preparing to attack Ukraine by the end of January or the beginning of February.

    The Ukrainian military produced a map showing how the US in a “short-term perspective” could invade Ukraine from all directions, including an incursion from the territory of Poland.

    Russia has denied amassing troops along the Ukrainian border. When reports of possible preparation for an invasion began appearing in US media this month, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova dismissed them as “fake” news that she said was part of a larger disinformation campaign waged against Russia... the US could not possibly be that stupid. We will see if she is wrong.

    In an interview broadcast on Rossiya-1 TV channel on Sunday, Dmitry Peskov, the spokesperson for the Kremlin, said the West was “artificially stoking hysteria.”

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