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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #29

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed 07 Apr 2021, 23:41

    Most of the heavy work can be done in Russia - flying the Jets to launch KH missiles into Ukraine hitting key bases like AF, and artillery or knocking out AD systems and radar.

    Using drones to hit formations barely protected like installations.

    Then hit with heavy artillery. Move the units into Donbass and Lughansk to hit units further away.

    The rest can be done by DNR and LNR ground forces.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu 08 Apr 2021, 00:25

    I hope it's dawned to the Kiev elite by now that they're in the position of 1991 Iraq, that was gunning for invading Kuwait.

    And no, they're certainly not in the position of Croatia in the 90s, that launched a successful operation to eliminate the Serb enclave on its territory and send a couple hundred thousand refugees packing.

    Their best bet, is to return to the Minsk agreements, and stop being retards. Russia is making it clear that they have a lot more to lose than they might think.

    But in the event they don't get the message, it would still be a huge mistake for Russia to make a deep incursion into Ukrainian territory. Best just bluff them out of their delusion.

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    Post  Arrow Thu 08 Apr 2021, 15:25

    #BREAKING German Chancellor Merkel urged President Putin to reduce Russia's troop buildup near Ukraine border, her office says.

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    Post  Yugo90 Thu 08 Apr 2021, 15:28

    Arrow wrote:#BREAKING German Chancellor Merkel urged President Putin to reduce Russia's troop buildup near Ukraine border, her office says.
    fuck her russia can do whatever it wants in her borders she should calm down those Jewish idiots in Kiev

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu 08 Apr 2021, 15:42

    Russia should respond demanding Germany to demand US and UK troops in Ukraine to be removed and any assets along with them.

    But Germany is a mouse and they are always laughed at by everyone.

    BTW

    https://www.rt.com/russia/520378-germany-ukraine-nato-unlikely/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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    Post  Yugo90 Thu 08 Apr 2021, 15:57

    miketheterrible wrote:Russia should respond demanding Germany to demand US and UK troops in Ukraine to be removed and any assets along with them.

    But Germany is a mouse and they are always laughed at by everyone.

    BTW

    https://www.rt.com/russia/520378-germany-ukraine-nato-unlikely/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    USA has alot of troops in europe close to russian border and nobody says anything about it...but if russia does something it's world war lool. That's just shows how fucked up this world is...US should GTFO of Europe and leave us alone...they have enough problems at home...

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    Post  flamming_python Thu 08 Apr 2021, 15:58

    Arrow wrote:#BREAKING German Chancellor Merkel urged President Putin to reduce Russia's troop buildup near Ukraine border, her office says.

    She should tell that shitstain to follow the Minsk agreements that it's obligated by and withdraw all needless troops and heavy weapons from the front

    Then Russia will see about where it displaces its forces within its own territory.

    The gall of these people is incredible. Get your pet under control first and foremost.

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    Post  Arrow Thu 08 Apr 2021, 16:00

    Putin should tell Merkel to withdraw US troops from Germany. Very Happy

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    Post  Yugo90 Thu 08 Apr 2021, 16:01

    Arrow wrote:Putin should tell Merkel to withdraw US troops from Germany. Very Happy
    not just from Germany those idiots are all over Europe

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    Post  lyle6 Thu 08 Apr 2021, 16:05

    Arrow wrote:#BREAKING German Chancellor Merkel urged President Putin to reduce Russia's troop buildup near Ukraine border, her office says.

    And just like that the hoholocaust quota just increased by a further 6 million.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu 08 Apr 2021, 16:27

    lyle6 wrote:
    Arrow wrote:#BREAKING German Chancellor Merkel urged President Putin to reduce Russia's troop buildup near Ukraine border, her office says.

    And just like that the hoholocaust quota just increased by a further 6 million.

    Yeah, they could play it up against the Germans on that. Remind them of what they did and that they can't throw stones from Glass houses.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu 08 Apr 2021, 20:25


    Caspian Fleet ships are moving to Black Sea via Azov Sea

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11099471

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    Post  Azi Thu 08 Apr 2021, 21:03

    The US and A rewritted the history of Russia after the collapse of USSR. They spent hundred of millions $ (or billions?) through this kind of softpower to separate Russians from Ukrainians and Belarussians. These three countries are "Russia"! They were never something else in history! Parts of Ukraine belonged to Poland for a time, to Turkey for a time, to Austria-Hungary for a time....but people now declaring themselves Ukranians are only Russians and they will never be something else! Okay with a dialect, that's true...but in Germany we have dozens of dialects and people from south of Germany couldn't understand people living in the north, but all are germans and nothing else!

    Best examples are these bullshit thesis about "Holodomor"...that Russians starved the poor little sweet cute Ukrainians to death! Americans spent a lot of time and money in fabricating this story. In reality ALL died during these years, from Russians, Belarussians to Ukrainians. It was not exclusive Ukraine! And by the way...Stalin was not ethnic russian!!!!! And the ar*ehole of Timothy Snyder, putting USSR and Nazi Germany on the same level...the greatest historian for east europe is american!? Really????? WTF!

    The USA has sown hatred for decades in post soviet area and they do this because it's in their DNA, it's their usual business all over the world..."divide et impera"...divide and rule. The utimate goal is the scattering of Russia and they will work toward this goal until it is reached or until the Anglo_saxon world order collapses. With Russia in dozens parts divided, hey can rule from behind, like they do in Ukraine now...with money, influence, bribery and so on.

    If Ukraine gives Russia a reason to attack, then Russia should attack Ukraine with full conventional force and dissolve this epic Nazi Shithole forever. 1/4 of Ukraine in the west should be left untouched or can join Poland, if they want, but the rest should be reintegrated into Russia. Give the people a good job, good payment and fair treatment, like in Crimea...and they will become the happiest people in the world.

    If Russia will not react to Ukraine provocations and it's only saber ratling...Ukraine will provoke every 5 years!!! And year after year Ukraine becomes stronger, despite being the poorest shithole in Europe, because western powers will gift the weapons or give a discount. And Ukraine will be the tool of USA for next 50 years, using Ukraine every time they need to distract Russia whenever they want. This will cost Russia more, than any sanctions the west can impose now! And another point is that after disintegration of Ukraikne no more provocations could occur and the reasons for the sanctions are gone...so after 5-10 years sanctions would be history. With the manpower, the knowledge and industrial capacity of Ukraine Russia would become a worldpower in every aspect again. No...not every Ukrainian is a dirty cheap Nazi, but the correct people are silent now in Ukraine...or let's say in some way opressed. Only if Russia restores it's historic ties, then it can flourish again, something the Ukranians kept out of mind...so now Ukraine is the poorest shithole in europe!!!

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    Post  auslander Thu 08 Apr 2021, 21:32

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Caspian Fleet ships are moving to Black Sea via Azov Sea

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11099471

    Watch the bouncing baby bird, keep your eyes on the bird, don't let it out of your sight, stare at the bouncing baby bird......LOL.

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    Post  littlerabbit Thu 08 Apr 2021, 22:23


    A new ukie battle flag, somewhere in occupied Donbass...

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    Post  Finty Thu 08 Apr 2021, 23:28

    BBC's take

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56678665

    A top Russian official has warned that Moscow could intervene to help Russian-speaking residents in eastern Ukraine if Ukraine launches an all-out assault on separatists there.

    Russian-backed separatist rebels and Ukrainian troops have been clashing in the east of the country.

    Russia has also been building up troops on the border with Ukraine.

    The official, Dmitry Kozak, said that Russian forces could intervene to "defend" its citizens.

    "Everything depends on the scale of the conflagration," he said.

    He also warned that an escalation could mark the "beginning of the end" for Ukraine - "not a shot in the leg, but in the face".

    The United States and Germany have both expressed concern at the increase in tensions.

    Why are tensions rising between Ukraine and Russia?
    Russia has been increasing the number of troops at the Ukrainian border, but at the same time maintains that they should not be seen as a threat.

    White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Russian troop numbers there were the highest since 2014, when the conflict in eastern Ukraine began. She described the situation as "deeply concerning".

    Clashes between Ukrainian troops and the Moscow-backed rebels inside Donbass have also increased in recent months.

    Peace deal explained
    The death of another Ukrainian soldier on Thursday brought the number killed this year to 25. Fifty Ukrainian troops died in the whole of last year.

    For their part, the rebels said one of their fighters was killed on the same day when Ukrainian troops fired 14 mortar bombs at a village on the outskirts of the city of Donetsk.

    In a further sign of the seriousness of the situation, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited the region on Thursday to see "the locations of the escalation" and "be with our soldiers in the tough times in Donbass".

    Chancellor Merkel spoke to Mr Putin on the phone on Thursday and called on Russia to "de-escalate tensions" by reducing its troop reinforcements.

    In the same call, Mr Putin accused Ukraine of inflaming the situation in the east.

    What else did the Kremlin official say?
    In Moscow, Mr Kozak likened the current situation of the separatists to Srebrenica, the town in Bosnia-Hercegovina where 8,000 Muslim men were killed by Bosnian Serb forces in 1995.

    "If, as our president says, there is a Srebrenica there, we shall probably have to come to their defence," Mr Kozak said. He is the deputy head of Russia's presidential administration.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin first suggested in 2019 that Russian-speaking residents might suffer a Srebrenica-like massacre if Ukraine regained full control of Donbass without guarantees.

    But there have been no reports of any such atrocity being planned.

    Mr Kozak suggested the rebels could hold their own for now against Ukrainian forces as they consisted of "battle-hardened units".

    What's the background to all this?

    The roots of the current conflict go back to March 2014 when Russia annexed the Ukrainian region of Crimea.

    This sparked a major rift with Western nations, prompting the European Union and the US to impose sanctions on Russia.

    A month later, Russian-backed rebels in the predominantly Russian-speaking Donbass seized the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

    Western countries and Nato accused Russia of sending troops over the border into Ukraine, but Russia maintains any Russian fighters there are "volunteers".

    Ukraine's President Zelenskiy came to power promising to bring about peace, and a ceasefire was signed last July. Both sides have since accused each other of violating it.

    The conflict is estimated to have killed 14,000 people.

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    Post  kvs Fri 09 Apr 2021, 00:55

    Let's see the BBC's "white knights" save the Kiev regime's ass.  

    "Defend" from the clown propaganda orifice that ignores the shelling of civilians by Ukr degenerates for the last 7 years.
    And with explicit plans for an ethnic cleansing operation as happened in Croatia in the mid 1990s where 420,000 ethnic
    Serbs were expelled from ancestral lands (Krajina, East and West Slavonia).
    Clearly not "newsworthy".

    BBC = British Bullshit Corporation.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri 09 Apr 2021, 01:14

    kvs wrote:Let's see the BBC's "white knights" save the Kiev regime's ass.  

    "Defend" from the clown propaganda orifice that ignores the shelling of civilians by Ukr degenerates for the last 7 years.
    And with explicit plans for an ethnic cleansing operation as happened in Croatia in the mid 1990s where 420,000 ethnic
    Serbs were expelled from ancestral lands (Krajina, East and West Slavonia).  
    Clearly not "newsworthy".

    BBC = British Bullshit Corporation.

    Who can forget the BBC and their dung-pile articles on Sputik V? Boy did those articles age horribly lol! Razz No need for them to engage in actual journalism, the BBC is too busy hiding/protecting pedophiles like Jimmy Saville.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri 09 Apr 2021, 04:35

    The US media over the last 10 years have gone to new heights of censorship. I remember back in the 2000's they'd talk about Lviv/Lvov University being the "University of Hate" that promoted Holocaust Denial, and having crypto-Nazi's/Fascists compromising much of the schools faculty. Now the West never mentions Lviv University and their open anti-Semitism and their promotion of Nazism, and they pretend like it doesn't exist. I was well aware of the political agenda at Lviv University, that's why I was able to see through the Western propagandist bullshit denying the massive mobilization of Nazi's in Ukraine.

    Similarly, remember the late 2000's scandal of the infamous Dnipropetrovsk Maniacs and the infamous "3 guys 1 hammer" gore/snuff film? Everyone on the internet used to recoil in horror over their existence, and yes they too were Nazis.
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    Back in the 2000's Westerners were appalled at the behavior of '2' men, but now you have whole military battalions in Ukraine that act just like them, and armed to the teeth and Westerners don't say jack shit!!! Living up to that saying "1 death is a tragedy, but a million deaths is a statistics" eh? Ukropi forces aren't just compromised of 2 maniacs, in the case of the Azov Battalions their whole military personnel is made up of Dnipropetrovsk Maniacs!!!

    This is the result of Western social engineering over the past 10-15 years; they're overly sensitive over nothing such as their vapid and vacuous social media presence, but they have complete blank stares over actual tragedies in the Donbass, Syria, Yemen, etc.

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    Post  LMFS Fri 09 Apr 2021, 05:30

    Who will blink first? Preparations for war are complete
    Rostislav Ishchenko

    The situation in long-suffering Ukraine (without any irony to the country and its people) is developing in such a way that it can be stated that the parties interested in the conflict, possibly armed, have completed pre - war preparations, at least in the diplomatic sphere. Next, either someone has to give in, or the next step forward means war

    At the same time, Russia cannot have a "large — scale" war with Ukraine-different weight categories. Ukraine is not even able to conquer the Donbass. Kiev's participation in a direct military clash with Moscow, even as part of a group of States, will mean for Ukraine its almost instant destruction as a political entity.

    At the same time, Ukraine acts only as a provocateur of the first clash. Its task is to somehow indicate to the world community Russia's participation in the military conflict.

    Next, the United States intends to unleash a European war, with the participation of at least a few Eastern European countries-members of NATO and the EU. This will allow them to put pressure on their Western European allies who do not want a conflict with Russia, demanding that they decide: they are either with Moscow or with NATO.

    This is not an easy choice for Western Europe. Choose NATO — choose a war, which in this case will come very close to the scale of the world. To choose Russia is to abandon the system of alliances that has been built up for a century, in which Western Europe is used to feeling comfortable. There is a very high risk that the Europeans will choose the United States and NATO, hoping that the curve will take them out and they will not have to fight. But this is the hope of a miracle, and God sends miracles only to the worthy.

    Thus, the planned military solution of the crisis on the contact line in the Donbas cannot be called a Ukrainian-Russian war. The situation is much worse.

    Let me remind you that the Russian Ambassador recalled for consultations did not return to the United States. And it was possible not to report it. No one knows for how long it was withdrawn, but the information was distributed through the official Russian media. Moscow indicated in the information space, and then confirmed through the mouth of the foreign Minister that relations with the United States are at a freezing point, and there is no dialogue. This means that the situation is worse than during the Caribbean crisis. At that time, the USSR and the United States conducted an active dialogue in order to prevent war.

    European media spread information that the United States has brought its troops in Europe to the maximum degree of combat readiness. At the same time, a survey was conducted in Italy on: "Are you ready to fight with Russia for Ukraine?" Moreover, many survey participants (most of whom do not want any war) stressed that in fact we are not talking about a war for some unknown Ukraine to most Italians, but about a war for Washington's interests.

    So the Europeans understand everything perfectly. Italians even expressed the hope that if a large-scale war breaks out, Putin will fulfill his promise to strike at the decision-making centers and prevent the Americans from dragging others into the conflict, traditionally sitting out overseas.

    Some Polish General got excited and said that it was urgent to create the Baltic Union (consisting of Poland, the Baltic States and the Scandinavian countries) for war with Russia. He does not see NATO as reliable enough.

    There are enough senile generals in any army, but when such statements are actively discussed in the national and international press, it means that the relevant society (Polish, Baltic) is morally ready for war, and the deterrent centers, including the instinct of self-preservation, which normally block risky decisions, are turned off.

    The Ukrainian leadership, despite the provocative shelling of the Donbass, was clearly afraid to provoke Russia into real hostilities, remembering what happened in 2008 with the Georgian army, and in 2014-15 with the armed forces of Ukraine. The Americans, who until the last moment pretended that they had nothing to do with it, even had to openly highlight their participation in provoking the conflict. During one day on April 1-2, telephone conversations were held between the defense Ministers and the presidents of Ukraine and the United States. In both cases, American partners pushed Kiev into conflict with Moscow, promising not to leave Ukraine face-to-face with Russia.

    Immediately after that, Kiev requested joint exercises with NATO (while the decision on their conduct has not yet been made, but I think that the United States will try to push it). Ukraine also informed the UN security Council about the escalation on the contact line in Donbas. This is done in order to shift the blame for the outbreak of the conflict to Russia, so that you can say "we warned you, we even applied to the security Council."

    The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has changed the legislation governing conscription, providing Zelensky with a formal opportunity to call up a million people who have served in the army during the day, at least half of whom have experience of fighting in the Donbass. Since such a large number of people, Ukraine is not able to equip, feed, arm and form new units and formations from them, this means that the APU is provided with exactly as much cannon fodder as they can digest.

    Also, Ukraine constantly defiantly transfers troops to the line of demarcation and to the border with Russia. In some cases, we are talking about the planned rotation of formations in the conflict zone in the Donbass, but it is noteworthy that Kiev did not bother to refute the information of its own media about the strengthening of its groups of troops on the border with Russia.

    Moscow responded with an equally demonstrative deployment of troops near the Ukrainian border. Moreover, the Russian defense Ministry was silent for a whole week before announcing that the troops were being transferred as part of a planned exercise. Putin held a video conference with Macron and Merkel, during which the Russian position on the current crisis was conveyed to France and Germany. Judging by their subsequent behavior, they were strongly advised not to twitch or try to get involved in this conflict.

    The Russian foreign Minister held extensive and successful talks with China, including on the coordination of Moscow and Beijing's actions in response to Washington's provocations, after which Russia and China simultaneously took a number of unpleasant measures to combat American censorship on the global Internet, as well as delivered imperceptible but tangible blows to American trade and economic interests.

    At the same time, high-ranking representatives of the Russian defense Ministry visited a number of Countries in Southeast Asia allied to Moscow and Beijing and held consultations with their Chinese counterparts, the content of which was not disclosed. By the way, the Chinese have long wanted to return Taiwan and do not rule out conducting a military operation against the island Kuomintang allied to the Americans.

    Three Russian submarines simultaneously surfaced in the Arctic, breaking through the ice, and carried out successful missile training launches. This is nothing more than a demonstration to America of the ability to launch a massive nuclear strike against it from the most vulnerable direction. From the latter, in Siberia, trains with troops and equipment moving in the direction of European Russia are marked (photos posted on the Internet by people who accidentally witnessed the transfer of troops).

    In Donetsk and Luhansk, decrees were issued on the first conscription in the history of the people's republics. So far, four hundred people have been called up for two republics. This is more of a demonstration than a real strengthening of the corps of the republics. But the decrees allow you to simultaneously call up ten different ages at once, which will allow you to increase the number of armed forces of the republics by two or three times if necessary. Since the DPR / LPR relies on the support of Russia, there should be no problems with arming and equipping so many people. Russian warehouses allow arming and equipping millions.

    Moscow has openly said and shown that it does not intend to back down. I would like to emphasize once again that almost all preliminary diplomatic and political actions have been carried out on both sides. There is practically no room for further inflating tensions without turning to open conflict. The maneuvers that can still be undertaken will not ease tensions in any way, and their potential will also be exhausted in the coming weeks.

    The parties (and this is not Ukraine and the Donbass, but Russia and the United States) are in a situation of "who will blink first". In fact, the senile Biden administration implemented the plan of nuclear blackmail of Russia declared by Hillary Clinton during her 2016 presidential election campaign. Then Hillary said that she would demand concessions from Russia under the threat of a full-scale nuclear war. Now the United States is demonstrating its readiness to bring the crisis in the Donbas to the level of direct military confrontation between Russia and the United States in a few steps.

    Why are they doing this? Because they have no other ways to defend their global hegemony, without which the United States turns into a weak and poor regional state in one touch, internally unstable and prone to disintegration (worse than Russia in the 90s). According to their own calculations, in the next three or four years, they should finally lose the economic and political competition to Russia and China, and lose even the theoretical possibility of winning a military conflict. Washington faces a dilemma: it's now or never.

    Does this mean that war is inevitable? No. Its danger is very great. Moreover, there is a high risk of events getting out of control, especially given the inadequacy of the us administration. But, as mentioned above, the policy does not necessarily involve fatal development. There are always a lot of options for developing a situation. For us, there are three main ways to avoid the worst::

    1. someone will retreat without war. For a backslider, this will mean a political catastrophe, but postponed. It won't be noticeable right away.

    2. the Military crisis will start and end too quickly for the US to have time to roll out its plan to deploy it in a European war. Roughly speaking, Ukraine will be destroyed so quickly that the poles, Balts and other self-sacrificers for American interests, as well as the United States itself, will not have time to react, and then it will be too late.

    3. at some stage, there will be a gap in the escalation of the situation. Ukrainian leaders may not dare to cross the last line. After all, they have almost no chance of survival in any outcome of the conflict. Even if the United States sends a plane after them (which is unlikely), it simply will not reach Boryspil or leave Ukrainian airspace. Russia can close the sky over it at any time. Eastern Europeans may not risk getting involved in the conflict. It is one thing to "declare war on Russia" in your own media, quite another to do it in practice. You may not have time to go down to the bomb shelter. And well, if paratroopers arrive to take prisoners, they can fly missiles that do not take prisoners, because they do not know how. Western Europe may take a tough stance. The United States is unlikely to risk bringing the conflict to an end if its European allies refuse to support them, including banning Americans from conducting subversive activities against Russia from their territory. In Western Europe, this unpleasant feeling is well known when your city, your small well-groomed country is a target for soulless warheads that can RUB it into radioactive dust three times. They want to live well, not die heroically for American hegemony. The fear of death may inspire them with the courage they need to openly oppose the United States.

    The weakness of all these options lies in one thing: we have to rely on someone else to make the right decision, because we can't back down on our own. But, as you can see, there are many options in which a fatal development of events is interrupted.

    Nevertheless, I am sad to say that in the fifty-five years I have lived, the world has never come so close to war. The closest thing to the Third world war (after the Caribbean crisis, which happened before I was born) was during the European missile crisis in the early 80's, when the United States deployed its medium-range missiles in Europe, and the Soviet RSD-10 pioneer complexes (SS-20 according to the NATO classification) moved all the way to the GDR. The position areas of nuclear missiles were located several tens of kilometers from each other (in the GDR and Germany), which means that any conflict with the use of conventional weapons threatened to immediately turn into an exchange of nuclear strikes, since in the event of a breakthrough, the enemy was able to reach the positions of missiles in a day or two.

    So, even then the situation was better, because the Americans were infected with cowboying, but generally sane, they did not want war and the dialogue was going on. Now we (and the whole world) are dealing with inadequates in Washington for whom the future peace is worse than war. Moreover, they believe that the war can still be won and are not ready to talk about a compromise with anyone, demanding unilateral concessions.

    Still, we have a chance. Most people (Americans are no exception) they want to live. The senile Biden junta that seized the White house is not omnipotent. It can also be stopped by joint efforts.

    https://ukraina.ru/opinion/20210404/1031035168.html

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri 09 Apr 2021, 06:12

    I noticed a lot of articles you guys post is always saying WWIII as US gets involved. I'm curious, where do they get this?

    Because, US made it quite obvious they aren't sending troops. Germany made it obvious Ukraine won't be in NATO anytime soon, and we heard it before with Syria and Georgia. Which didn't result in anything.

    Man, US isn't gonna fight directly. Russia and US never do. It's always through proxies.

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    Post  kvs Fri 09 Apr 2021, 06:20

    miketheterrible wrote:I noticed a lot of articles you guys post is always saying WWIII as US gets involved.  I'm curious, where do they get this?

    Because, US made it quite obvious they aren't sending troops. Germany made it obvious Ukraine won't be in NATO anytime soon, and we heard it before with Syria and Georgia.  Which didn't result in anything.

    Man, US isn't gonna fight directly. Russia and US never do. It's always through proxies.

    This is a fact. The US had its chance after the end of WWII to take out the USSR but did not and only had some moronic plans to nuke
    the USSR in the 1950s when it was too late. The cold war proved that the US and its minions could not confront the USSR militarily.
    Russia is not less a military superpower than the USSR. It is actually in much better shape today than it was before 1990.

    But the USA and NATzO want Russia to "invade" Banderastan and get stuck with caring for the tar baby and at the same
    time lubricate a propaganda rallying of the "civilized world" against "Russian barbarity". Russia is not going to give Uncle
    Swine-shit what he wants. Remote attacks, including air strikes and no fly zones, will fail to be any sort of "invasion".
    And we will see White Helmet type staged "atrocity" theater where precision attacks on military targets will be hoaxed up
    as mass killing of innocents.

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri 09 Apr 2021, 06:29

    Well, first issue Russia faces is if there is anyone in Russia who gives a flying shit what the west thinks or says.

    The greatest thing about all of this is the hoopla that is made on media all the while, behind the scenes, it's a different matter.

    Sanctions and isolating Russia? That isn't even much of a real thing. All this did was solidify Russia's manufacturing and technological base while foreign companies rushed to open up subsidiary plants in Russia to prevent the loss of income from not being able to export to Russia. Which created Jobs in the end for Russians. It increased Russian exports of end made goods rather than it pushing hard on raw only. It also opened up other export prospects to which they are now selling to nations the very same goods they once imported from.

    The other point is it solidified Putin's popularity and the party as a whole. Or at least further antagonize any potential Russian allies in Russia leaving only the fringe, libtard population in Russia pro western.

    Russia really has nothing to fear nor lose honestly.
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    Post  kvs Fri 09 Apr 2021, 06:59

    Western White Helmet type propaganda will have no impact on Russians outside the 5th column liberasts who only eat
    the finest western shit anyway. Putin will gain popularity by helping the Donbass recover territory and to declare
    independence. The Donbass has a wonderful pretext: the breaking of the Minsk Accords by the Kiev regime. It
    does not matter whether NATzO and its sycophants recognize this independence or not. Put will also have massive
    support by not getting involved in some idiotic invasion and the perpetual support for Ukr parasites. So I think the
    choices for what Russia should do are quite clear.

    This limited engagement will also deprive NATzO of the propaganda meat it wants. I am quite sure that the Russian
    government has been preparing the NR forces to do 90% of the heavy lifting to achieve the above goals. So I do
    not expect any columns of Russian ground forces crossing into the Donbass. Air and missile strikes are going to be
    effective enough. And they will not be aimed outside the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk. This will castrate the
    White Helmet psyops that I am certain that NATzO's Kiev sock puppets plan to launch.


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