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2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
Hole- Posts : 11091
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
And 2 million armenia refugees flooding Georgia on there way to Mother Russia.
GarryB- Posts : 40398
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
The problem is that the opposition in Armenia can propose anything they like... if they can't get the government to agree it makes no difference at all... even more so if the actual Armenian government thinks a better solution would be an American base in Armenia to balance things...
The real questions are obvious... when is the next election and could it turn the opposition into the current government.
Also what are the current administrations views on this idea... if they agree it could happen without an election, but in my experience most governments refuse to do what the opposition parties suggest... which is one of the reasons they are called the opposition...
The real questions are obvious... when is the next election and could it turn the opposition into the current government.
Also what are the current administrations views on this idea... if they agree it could happen without an election, but in my experience most governments refuse to do what the opposition parties suggest... which is one of the reasons they are called the opposition...
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1342789645042638848
https://haqqin.az/news/197133
it is confirmed, that in Oktober 4th Osa from Artsakh AD shot down Azerbaijani Su-25, pilot was killed. Azeri AF Su-25 were modernized in belarus and they are equipped with belarussian jamming pods Talisman.
https://haqqin.az/news/197133
В победе Азербайджана в 44-дневной Отечественной войне особые заслуги имеют Военно-воздушные силы и Войска противовоздушной обороны. Ведь перед началом войны противник приобрел средства противовоздушной обороны нового поколения.
Не секрет, что первоочередной боевой задачей, стоящей перед ВВС Азербайджана, было уничтожение средств ПВО противника. Для того, чтобы добиться этого, ВВС мобилизовали все имеющиеся средства и силы. Для уничтожения вражеских ПВО подразумевалось использование и штурмовиков СУ-25. Для этих целей командование ВВС Азербайджана поручило использовать на самолетах СУ-25 новые тактические приемы. Эта работа была поручена полковнику Зауру Нудиралиеву, сообщает АзерТАдж.
Заур Нудиралиев – опытный пилот, прошедший обучение за рубежом и накопивший опыт в учениях, проходивших в различных странах. Полковник блестяще справился с поставленной задачей. В многочисленных учениях он выработал уникальный способ бомбардировки математическим методом с больших высот, не прицеливаясь. Этот метод, соответствующий стандартам НАТО, был перенят и другими пилотами.
По словам участника Отечественной войны майора Джавида Фараджева, штурмовик СУ-25 предназначен для использования на низких высотах. Но полковнику Зауру Нудиралиеву удалось использовать все возможности штурмовика СУ-25.
«Когда СУ-25 летит на низких и средних высотах, высока вероятность его поражения средствами противовоздушной обороны. Благодаря своему опыту и исследованиям Зауру Нудиралиеву удалось разработать не имевшую аналогов тактику. В Отечественной войне противника сломили точечные бомбовые удары СУ-25 с больших высот. Он также впервые осуществил сброс бомб с лазерным наведением со штурмовика СУ-25. Благодаря всем этим тактикам, которым он обучил и своих учеников, мы смогли получить большое превосходство в боях», - сказал он.
Заур Нудиралиев на своем СУ-25 нанес сокрушительные удары по врагу в направлении Агдере, Физули и Джебраила. Во время своего последнего полета он стал мишенью для вражеских ПВО.
«4 октября Заур Нудиралиев на своем СУ-25 приближался к назначенной ему цели в направлении Джебраила. В этот момент в центральный командный пункт поступила информация о действиях средств ПВО противника. По нашей развединформации, на той территории не должно было быть средств ПВО. Был велик риск того, что самолеты СУ-25 могут быть сбиты. Нам сразу приказали вернуться обратно. В это время Заур Нудиралиев уже поразил свою цель и возвращался обратно. После этого он перестал выходить на связь. Его самолет уже был сбит. Несмотря на свое ранение, полковник все еще мог катапультироваться. Но он не сделал этого, чтобы не попасть в плен. Пожертвовав своей жизнью, он направил самолет на участок скопления вражеских сил и техники и героически погиб», - рассказывает полковник-лейтенант Эльчин Мамедов, который летел вместе с Зауром Нудиралиевым.
Но кровь шехида Нудиралиева не осталась неотомщенной. ВВС Азербайджана полностью уничтожили средства ПВО противника в этом направлении. Это открыло широкие возможности для использования ударных беспилотников, боевых вертолетов и самолетов. Благодаря им было уничтожено большое количество артустановок, танков, техники и живой силы противника. Силы специального назначения и пехота смогли с минимальными потерями освободить Джебраил, Физули и поселок Гадрут.
Благодаря новому тактическому приему во время Отечественной войны азербайджанские летчики совершили более 600 боевых вылетов и уничтожили большое количество техники и живой силы врага. Именно благодаря этой тактике за всю Отечественную войну был потерян лишь один штурмовик СУ-25. За свой подвиг полковник Заур Нудиралиев был посмертно удостоен звания «Герой Отечественной войны».
Вдова погибшего полковника Назиля Нудиралиева рассказывает, что ее муж был примерным семьянином. Его самым большим желанием было достойно воспитать своих детей. Он уделял особое внимание учебе своих детей и был несказанно рад, когда его дочь Пери поступила в университет, набрав 600 баллов. Назиля Нудиралиева сказала, что дети вырастут достойными имени своего отца.
In the victory of Azerbaijan in the 44-day Patriotic War, the Air Force and Air Defense Forces have special merits. Indeed, before the start of the war, the enemy acquired a new generation of air defense systems.
It is no secret that the primary combat task facing the Azerbaijan Air Force was the destruction of enemy air defense systems. In order to achieve this, the Air Force mobilized all available means and forces. To destroy enemy air defenses, the use of SU-25 attack aircraft was also implied. For these purposes, the Azerbaijani Air Force command ordered the use of new tactics on the SU-25 aircraft. This work was entrusted to Colonel Zaur Nudiraliyev, AzerTAc reports.
Zaur Nudiraliyev is an experienced pilot who has been trained abroad and gained experience in exercises held in various countries. The colonel coped with the task brilliantly. In numerous exercises, he developed a unique method of bombing with a mathematical method from high altitudes, without aiming. This method, which meets NATO standards, has been adopted by other pilots.
According to World War II veteran Major Javid Faradzhev, the SU-25 attack aircraft is designed for use at low altitudes. But Colonel Zaur Nudiraliyev managed to use all the capabilities of the SU-25 attack aircraft.
“When the SU-25 flies at low and medium altitudes, there is a high probability of being hit by air defense systems. Thanks to his experience and research, Zaur Nudiraliyev managed to develop unparalleled tactics. In World War II, the enemy was broken by the SU-25 pinpoint bombing attacks from high altitudes. He also dropped laser-guided bombs from the SU-25 for the first time. Thanks to all these tactics that he taught to his students, we were able to gain great superiority in battles, ”he said.
Zaur Nudiraliyev in his SU-25 inflicted crushing blows on the enemy in the direction of Agdere, Fizuli and Jebrail. During his last flight, he became a target for enemy air defenses.
“On October 4, Zaur Nudiraliyev, in his SU-25, approached the target assigned to him in the direction of Jebrail. At that moment, the central command post received information about the actions of enemy air defense systems. According to our intelligence information, there should have been no air defense systems in that territory. There was a great risk that the SU-25s could be shot down. We were immediately ordered to go back. At this time, Zaur Nudiraliyev had already hit his target and was returning back. After that, he stopped communicating. His plane had already been shot down. Despite his injury, the colonel could still eject. But he did not do this in order not to be captured. Having sacrificed his life, he sent the plane to the area where enemy forces and equipment were concentrated and died heroically, ”says Lieutenant Colonel Elchin Mamedov, who was flying with Zaur Nudiraliyev.
But the blood of martyr Nudiraliyev did not remain unavenged. The Azerbaijani Air Force completely destroyed enemy air defense systems in this direction. This opened up ample opportunities for the use of attack drones, combat helicopters and aircraft. Thanks to them, a large number of gun mounts, tanks, equipment and enemy manpower were destroyed. Special forces and infantry were able to liberate Jabrayil, Fuzuli and the village of Hadrut with minimal losses.
Thanks to a new tactical technique, during the Patriotic War, Azerbaijani pilots flew more than 600 combat missions and destroyed a large number of enemy equipment and manpower. It was thanks to this tactic that only one SU-25 attack aircraft was lost during the entire Patriotic War. For his feat, Colonel Zaur Nudiraliev was posthumously awarded the title "Hero of the Patriotic War."
The widow of the deceased colonel Nazil Nudiraliyev says that her husband was an exemplary family man. His greatest desire was to raise his children with dignity. He paid special attention to the studies of his children and was incredibly happy when his daughter Peri entered the university, gaining 600 points. Nazilya Nudiralieva said that the children will grow up worthy of their father's name.
it is confirmed, that in Oktober 4th Osa from Artsakh AD shot down Azerbaijani Su-25, pilot was killed. Azeri AF Su-25 were modernized in belarus and they are equipped with belarussian jamming pods Talisman.
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You know who is to blame
Apparently today or yesterday there was a clash between Azeri soldiers and Armenian "guerrillias".
Azerbaijan lost one, while the Armenians six. Azeris go crazy on twitter with # ala "russiaout", "occupier" etc. Some of them even live in Russia, unbelievable.
I don't live in Russia myself, but I would never show such aggression against my "host country" so publicly.
On the other hand we have the Armenians, especially those living in the west, who hate Russia for not intervening.
There will never be peace there
If you consider the situation with Belarus, the mini coup in Kyrgyzstan
and the statement by a Russian politician to Kazakhstan that the northern parts of Russia were always part of Russia ...
Maybe it's time to rethink for Russia a new strategy?
People who are hating Russia will hate it regardless of it's action.
Azerbaijan lost one, while the Armenians six. Azeris go crazy on twitter with # ala "russiaout", "occupier" etc. Some of them even live in Russia, unbelievable.
I don't live in Russia myself, but I would never show such aggression against my "host country" so publicly.
On the other hand we have the Armenians, especially those living in the west, who hate Russia for not intervening.
There will never be peace there
If you consider the situation with Belarus, the mini coup in Kyrgyzstan
and the statement by a Russian politician to Kazakhstan that the northern parts of Russia were always part of Russia ...
Maybe it's time to rethink for Russia a new strategy?
People who are hating Russia will hate it regardless of it's action.
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
Russia out of what?
Azerbaijan has no claim to the areas Russia is in. And if Azerbaijan tries anything, they would wipe Azerbaijan a new one.
These inbreds are retarded.
But hey, Russia is waiting for the morons to try something. Hence why when the mi-24 was shot down, Azerbaijan was quick to kiss Russia's feet.
False nationalism is hilarious. Those azeries working in Russia, Armenians too, will find themselves soon without a job and forced to go back. Then what? Azerbaijan can't get work for them.
I bet the Russian government is having a good laugh over this
Azerbaijan has no claim to the areas Russia is in. And if Azerbaijan tries anything, they would wipe Azerbaijan a new one.
These inbreds are retarded.
But hey, Russia is waiting for the morons to try something. Hence why when the mi-24 was shot down, Azerbaijan was quick to kiss Russia's feet.
False nationalism is hilarious. Those azeries working in Russia, Armenians too, will find themselves soon without a job and forced to go back. Then what? Azerbaijan can't get work for them.
I bet the Russian government is having a good laugh over this
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
wrong: all of NK is claimed by them, but Russia stopped it from being taken back, with the Mi-24 & 2 pilots loss being the last drop in her cup of patience..Azerbaijan has no claim to the areas Russia is in.
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
miketheterrible wrote:Russia out of what?
Azerbaijan has no claim to the areas Russia is in. And if Azerbaijan tries anything, they would wipe Azerbaijan a new one.
These inbreds are retarded.
But hey, Russia is waiting for the morons to try something. Hence why when the mi-24 was shot down, Azerbaijan was quick to kiss Russia's feet.
False nationalism is hilarious. Those azeries working in Russia, Armenians too, will find themselves soon without a job and forced to go back. Then what? Azerbaijan can't get work for them.
I bet the Russian government is having a good laugh over this
They have no access for at least five years but the azeris will never agree to an extension,
Aliev would be slaughtered should he consider it; Turks will take care of it
A replay of 2008 would not be in the interest of Russia.
People connected with west-Armenians or hating Russia living-in-Russia-Azeris
like choosing between plague or cholera ... Russia and its allies a never-ending story!
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They won't accept extension. By then, Russia will say they don't care and will continue to be stationed there. Especially if locals ask.
They won't give a shit what Azerbaijan wants.
Oh, and the citizens of the area are getting Russian visa. So yeah, the azeries are stupid as shit
False patriotism. They live and work in Russia but love homeland. As soon as they are told to take a hike back home, their tone will change fast. I've seen shut shit here
They won't give a shit what Azerbaijan wants.
Oh, and the citizens of the area are getting Russian visa. So yeah, the azeries are stupid as shit
False patriotism. They live and work in Russia but love homeland. As soon as they are told to take a hike back home, their tone will change fast. I've seen shut shit here
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Tsavo Lion wrote:wrong: all of NK is claimed by them, but Russia stopped it from being taken back, with the Mi-24 & 2 pilots loss being the last drop in her cup of patience..Azerbaijan has no claim to the areas Russia is in.
They can claim the moon for all I give a shit. Still doesn't mean they will get what they want.
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Then try not to make misleading statements- I'm tired of refuting them for the benefit of others here.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Then try not to make misleading statements- I'm tired of refuting them for the benefit of others here.
That's rich. Actually, it's hilarious you say that cause you been proven wrong so many times and use shit links that more than half the users here point out your fallacies and stupidity.
No one here respects or believes what drivel you write so don't think too highly of yourself.
Also claiming doesn't mean actually owns or has rights to, dumbass.
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pl. list instances I've been proven wrong; my links r not shittier than urs, if any, & I'm not more stupid than u..you been proven wrong so many times and use shit links that more than half the users here point out your fallacies and stupidity.
the same to u, with ur pic with ur fat belly sticking out while vomiting/spitting in front of a desk!No one here respects or believes what drivel you write so don't think too highly of yourself.
I didn't imply that, so don't u fucken put any words in my mouth, smart ass!Also claiming doesn't mean actually owns or has rights to, dumbass.
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Yeah, we have actually called you out a million times already.
I, Papa, KVS.
Shall I mention about you and Antonov posts in the transport plane thread where you keep going on about Turkey and Ukraine and An-188? But you lack self awareness as you seem to think no one called you out on your links.
I use real links like sdelanounas.ru. So far, never been called out on said links unlike you.
You can't even distinguish a fucking meme picture either. You are beyond retarded
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/713972-valve
You just proved me right btw. Thanks!
I, Papa, KVS.
Shall I mention about you and Antonov posts in the transport plane thread where you keep going on about Turkey and Ukraine and An-188? But you lack self awareness as you seem to think no one called you out on your links.
I use real links like sdelanounas.ru. So far, never been called out on said links unlike you.
You can't even distinguish a fucking meme picture either. You are beyond retarded
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/713972-valve
You just proved me right btw. Thanks!
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Re: 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #3
Penguin wrote:
They have no access for at least five years but the azeris will never agree to an extension,
Aliev would be slaughtered should he consider it; Turks will take care of it
A replay of 2008 would not be in the interest of Russia.
People connected with west-Armenians or hating Russia living-in-Russia-Azeris
like choosing between plague or cholera ... Russia and its allies a never-ending story!
What extension? Russia will either recognize independent Artsakh or made a referendum that Artsakh will become part of Russian Federation. In both cases Russian army will stay there and even return to Artsakh territories, which are now in hands of Azeris. Azerbaijan could forget about Artsakh, it is now in Russian hands and Russia is bordering on Azerbaijan.
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General spoke about the lessons of the Karabakh war for the Russian army
Developed tactics for dealing with attack drones
Sergey Valchenko
December 27, 2020
The war in Nagorno-Karabakh, which ended in the defeat of the Armenian armed formations, showed the increased role of attack drones and kamikaze drones in battles. This weapon did the maximum damage to the enemy. So far, the Russian army does not have such funds in large quantities. Does it have ways to defend itself against precision drone strikes? It turns out that the Russian military has learned from the Karabakh war and has already developed tactics to combat aerial drones.
Thanks to the drones, the Karabakh war, which lasted 44 days, could be watched almost online. Almost every day, video evidence appeared on the Web of how an aircraft, imperceptible to the enemy, chose a target - an anti-aircraft complex, a tank or a strong point, and, taking aim, destroyed it with high-precision ammunition - a guided missile or a guided aerial bomb.
It was striking that the attack weapon remained unnoticed, a blow from heaven followed suddenly. The fighters in the position did not see the threat, because the relatively small apparatus hung at a high altitude and was invisible.
Obviously, the old Soviet anti-aircraft air defense systems, for example, "Shilka" or "Wasp", which are in service with the Armenian troops, could not detect the small-sized target. Several cases of the destruction of these anti-aircraft complexes by drones have been recorded.
The Azerbaijani army has purchased a large number of attack drones from Turkey and Israel in advance. The military perfectly worked out the tactics of the combat use of drones and included them in reconnaissance and strike complexes. It had an effect. He could be seen during the victory parade on December 10 in Baku, when a month after the end of the war, destroyed Armenian equipment was transported through the city streets.
The Russian army understands the danger of unmanned strike weapons and is looking for ways to counter them. This was told by the chief of the air defense of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Alexander Leonov.
Assessing the experience of armed conflicts in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Nagorno-Karabakh, the general said in an interview with Krasnaya Zvezda: the strength of the enemy. "
The general said that in the units of the military air defense, the main task of which is to protect the troops from air strikes, special attention is paid to training the commanders of the military air defense in organizing countering unmanned aerial vehicles, improving the methods of their detection and destruction.
Military personnel from the air observation posts are regularly trained to destroy microdrones and mini-drones, including those from small arms. But these traditional methods of fighting air targets are no longer enough.
A new special tactics for countering drones has been developed. As General Leonov said, the most effective was the joint, that is, the coordinated use of all the available heterogeneous forces and means of the combined-arms brigade, aimed at combating drones.
To combat drones, it was decided to create mixed tactical groups. They include combined arms units, as well as units of military air defense and electronic warfare.
As the general said, this provides early detection and warning of the approach of drones, electronic suppression of the UAV control system and echeloned, that is, sequential fire impact on unmanned vehicles at different ranges and altitudes.
It is planned to use, in particular, the promising anti-aircraft artillery system "Derivation-Air Defense" as an effective antidron. It can be guaranteed to detect and destroy even mini and micro cameras at short range. For this, an innovative projectile with programmable detonation near the target has been developed. The machine is capable of firing on the move and even afloat.
"Derivation-Air Defense" is still being tested. They are expected to be completed in 2022.
Among other effective means of combating unmanned threats, the general named anti-aircraft missile systems and complexes S-300V4, Buk-MZ, Tor-M2 and Tor-M2DT, portable anti-aircraft missile systems Verba, radar stations Niobiy -SV ", sets of automation equipment" Polyana-D4M1 "," Barnaul-T ".
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Developed tactics for dealing with attack drones
Sergey Valchenko
December 27, 2020
The war in Nagorno-Karabakh, which ended in the defeat of the Armenian armed formations, showed the increased role of attack drones and kamikaze drones in battles. This weapon did the maximum damage to the enemy. So far, the Russian army does not have such funds in large quantities. Does it have ways to defend itself against precision drone strikes? It turns out that the Russian military has learned from the Karabakh war and has already developed tactics to combat aerial drones.
Thanks to the drones, the Karabakh war, which lasted 44 days, could be watched almost online. Almost every day, video evidence appeared on the Web of how an aircraft, imperceptible to the enemy, chose a target - an anti-aircraft complex, a tank or a strong point, and, taking aim, destroyed it with high-precision ammunition - a guided missile or a guided aerial bomb.
It was striking that the attack weapon remained unnoticed, a blow from heaven followed suddenly. The fighters in the position did not see the threat, because the relatively small apparatus hung at a high altitude and was invisible.
Obviously, the old Soviet anti-aircraft air defense systems, for example, "Shilka" or "Wasp", which are in service with the Armenian troops, could not detect the small-sized target. Several cases of the destruction of these anti-aircraft complexes by drones have been recorded.
The Azerbaijani army has purchased a large number of attack drones from Turkey and Israel in advance. The military perfectly worked out the tactics of the combat use of drones and included them in reconnaissance and strike complexes. It had an effect. He could be seen during the victory parade on December 10 in Baku, when a month after the end of the war, destroyed Armenian equipment was transported through the city streets.
The Russian army understands the danger of unmanned strike weapons and is looking for ways to counter them. This was told by the chief of the air defense of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Alexander Leonov.
Assessing the experience of armed conflicts in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Nagorno-Karabakh, the general said in an interview with Krasnaya Zvezda: the strength of the enemy. "
The general said that in the units of the military air defense, the main task of which is to protect the troops from air strikes, special attention is paid to training the commanders of the military air defense in organizing countering unmanned aerial vehicles, improving the methods of their detection and destruction.
Military personnel from the air observation posts are regularly trained to destroy microdrones and mini-drones, including those from small arms. But these traditional methods of fighting air targets are no longer enough.
A new special tactics for countering drones has been developed. As General Leonov said, the most effective was the joint, that is, the coordinated use of all the available heterogeneous forces and means of the combined-arms brigade, aimed at combating drones.
To combat drones, it was decided to create mixed tactical groups. They include combined arms units, as well as units of military air defense and electronic warfare.
As the general said, this provides early detection and warning of the approach of drones, electronic suppression of the UAV control system and echeloned, that is, sequential fire impact on unmanned vehicles at different ranges and altitudes.
It is planned to use, in particular, the promising anti-aircraft artillery system "Derivation-Air Defense" as an effective antidron. It can be guaranteed to detect and destroy even mini and micro cameras at short range. For this, an innovative projectile with programmable detonation near the target has been developed. The machine is capable of firing on the move and even afloat.
"Derivation-Air Defense" is still being tested. They are expected to be completed in 2022.
Among other effective means of combating unmanned threats, the general named anti-aircraft missile systems and complexes S-300V4, Buk-MZ, Tor-M2 and Tor-M2DT, portable anti-aircraft missile systems Verba, radar stations Niobiy -SV ", sets of automation equipment" Polyana-D4M1 "," Barnaul-T ".
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https://haqqin.az/news/197133
В победе Азербайджана в 44-дневной Отечественной войне особые заслуги имеют Военно-воздушные силы и Войска противовоздушной обороны. Ведь перед началом войны противник приобрел средства противовоздушной обороны нового поколения.
Не секрет, что первоочередной боевой задачей, стоящей перед ВВС Азербайджана, было уничтожение средств ПВО противника. Для того, чтобы добиться этого, ВВС мобилизовали все имеющиеся средства и силы. Для уничтожения вражеских ПВО подразумевалось использование и штурмовиков СУ-25. Для этих целей командование ВВС Азербайджана поручило использовать на самолетах СУ-25 новые тактические приемы. Эта работа была поручена полковнику Зауру Нудиралиеву, сообщает АзерТАдж.
Заур Нудиралиев – опытный пилот, прошедший обучение за рубежом и накопивший опыт в учениях, проходивших в различных странах. Полковник блестяще справился с поставленной задачей. В многочисленных учениях он выработал уникальный способ бомбардировки математическим методом с больших высот, не прицеливаясь. Этот метод, соответствующий стандартам НАТО, был перенят и другими пилотами.
По словам участника Отечественной войны майора Джавида Фараджева, штурмовик СУ-25 предназначен для использования на низких высотах. Но полковнику Зауру Нудиралиеву удалось использовать все возможности штурмовика СУ-25.
«Когда СУ-25 летит на низких и средних высотах, высока вероятность его поражения средствами противовоздушной обороны. Благодаря своему опыту и исследованиям Зауру Нудиралиеву удалось разработать не имевшую аналогов тактику. В Отечественной войне противника сломили точечные бомбовые удары СУ-25 с больших высот. Он также впервые осуществил сброс бомб с лазерным наведением со штурмовика СУ-25. Благодаря всем этим тактикам, которым он обучил и своих учеников, мы смогли получить большое превосходство в боях», - сказал он.
Заур Нудиралиев на своем СУ-25 нанес сокрушительные удары по врагу в направлении Агдере, Физули и Джебраила. Во время своего последнего полета он стал мишенью для вражеских ПВО.
«4 октября Заур Нудиралиев на своем СУ-25 приближался к назначенной ему цели в направлении Джебраила. В этот момент в центральный командный пункт поступила информация о действиях средств ПВО противника. По нашей развединформации, на той территории не должно было быть средств ПВО. Был велик риск того, что самолеты СУ-25 могут быть сбиты. Нам сразу приказали вернуться обратно. В это время Заур Нудиралиев уже поразил свою цель и возвращался обратно. После этого он перестал выходить на связь. Его самолет уже был сбит. Несмотря на свое ранение, полковник все еще мог катапультироваться. Но он не сделал этого, чтобы не попасть в плен. Пожертвовав своей жизнью, он направил самолет на участок скопления вражеских сил и техники и героически погиб», - рассказывает полковник-лейтенант Эльчин Мамедов, который летел вместе с Зауром Нудиралиевым.
Но кровь шехида Нудиралиева не осталась неотомщенной. ВВС Азербайджана полностью уничтожили средства ПВО противника в этом направлении. Это открыло широкие возможности для использования ударных беспилотников, боевых вертолетов и самолетов. Благодаря им было уничтожено большое количество артустановок, танков, техники и живой силы противника. Силы специального назначения и пехота смогли с минимальными потерями освободить Джебраил, Физули и поселок Гадрут.
Благодаря новому тактическому приему во время Отечественной войны азербайджанские летчики совершили более 600 боевых вылетов и уничтожили большое количество техники и живой силы врага. Именно благодаря этой тактике за всю Отечественную войну был потерян лишь один штурмовик СУ-25. За свой подвиг полковник Заур Нудиралиев был посмертно удостоен звания «Герой Отечественной войны».
Вдова погибшего полковника Назиля Нудиралиева рассказывает, что ее муж был примерным семьянином. Его самым большим желанием было достойно воспитать своих детей. Он уделял особое внимание учебе своих детей и был несказанно рад, когда его дочь Пери поступила в университет, набрав 600 баллов. Назиля Нудиралиева сказала, что дети вырастут достойными имени своего отца.
In the victory of Azerbaijan in the 44-day Patriotic War, the Air Force and Air Defense Forces have special merits. Indeed, before the start of the war, the enemy acquired a new generation of air defense systems.
It is no secret that the primary combat task facing the Azerbaijan Air Force was the destruction of enemy air defense systems. In order to achieve this, the Air Force mobilized all available means and forces. To destroy enemy air defenses, the use of SU-25 attack aircraft was also implied. For these purposes, the Azerbaijani Air Force command ordered the use of new tactics on the SU-25 aircraft. This work was entrusted to Colonel Zaur Nudiraliyev, AzerTAc reports.
Zaur Nudiraliyev is an experienced pilot who has been trained abroad and gained experience in exercises held in various countries. The colonel coped with the task brilliantly. In numerous exercises, he developed a unique method of bombing with a mathematical method from high altitudes, without aiming. This method, which meets NATO standards, has been adopted by other pilots.
According to World War II veteran Major Javid Faradzhev, the SU-25 attack aircraft is designed for use at low altitudes. But Colonel Zaur Nudiraliyev managed to use all the capabilities of the SU-25 attack aircraft.
“When the SU-25 flies at low and medium altitudes, there is a high probability of being hit by air defense systems. Thanks to his experience and research, Zaur Nudiraliyev managed to develop unparalleled tactics. In World War II, the enemy was broken by the SU-25 pinpoint bombing attacks from high altitudes. He also dropped laser-guided bombs from the SU-25 for the first time. Thanks to all these tactics that he taught to his students, we were able to gain great superiority in battles, ”he said.
Zaur Nudiraliyev in his SU-25 inflicted crushing blows on the enemy in the direction of Agdere, Fizuli and Jebrail. During his last flight, he became a target for enemy air defenses.
“On October 4, Zaur Nudiraliyev, in his SU-25, approached the target assigned to him in the direction of Jebrail. At that moment, the central command post received information about the actions of enemy air defense systems. According to our intelligence information, there should have been no air defense systems in that territory. There was a great risk that the SU-25s could be shot down. We were immediately ordered to go back. At this time, Zaur Nudiraliyev had already hit his target and was returning back. After that, he stopped communicating. His plane had already been shot down. Despite his injury, the colonel could still eject. But he did not do this in order not to be captured. Having sacrificed his life, he sent the plane to the area where enemy forces and equipment were concentrated and died heroically, ”says Lieutenant Colonel Elchin Mamedov, who was flying with Zaur Nudiraliyev.
But the blood of martyr Nudiraliyev did not remain unavenged. The Azerbaijani Air Force completely destroyed enemy air defense systems in this direction. This opened up ample opportunities for the use of attack drones, combat helicopters and aircraft. Thanks to them, a large number of gun mounts, tanks, equipment and enemy manpower were destroyed. Special forces and infantry were able to liberate Jabrayil, Fuzuli and the village of Hadrut with minimal losses.
Thanks to a new tactical technique, during the Patriotic War, Azerbaijani pilots flew more than 600 combat missions and destroyed a large number of enemy equipment and manpower. It was thanks to this tactic that only one SU-25 attack aircraft was lost during the entire Patriotic War. For his feat, Colonel Zaur Nudiraliev was posthumously awarded the title "Hero of the Patriotic War."
The widow of the deceased colonel Nazil Nudiraliyev says that her husband was an exemplary family man. His greatest desire was to raise his children with dignity. He paid special attention to the studies of his children and was incredibly happy when his daughter Peri entered the university, gaining 600 points. Nazilya Nudiralieva said that the children will grow up worthy of their father's name.
it is confirmed, that in Oktober 4th Osa from Artsakh AD shot down Azerbaijani Su-25, pilot was killed. Azeri AF Su-25 were modernized in belarus and they are equipped with belarussian jamming pods Talisman.
BWHAHAHAHAHA. This BS.
The area where the first Azeri SU-25 crashed was 7 km from the LoC. He was probably shot down by Manpads before entering its area.
Also from images posted online, there are 27 pilots confirmed dead. We know from various videos that 2 mil-24 and 2 mil-17 were shot down. This means at least 12 pilots/flying pax counted. Plus now at least 1 Su-25. So there are still 14 guys missing.
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KoTeMoRe wrote:
BWHAHAHAHAHA. This BS.
The area where the first Azeri SU-25 crashed was 7 km from the LoC. He was probably shot down by Manpads before entering its area.
Also from images posted online, there are 27 pilots confirmed dead. We know from various videos that 2 mil-24 and 2 mil-17 were shot down. This means at least 12 pilots/flying pax counted. Plus now at least 1 Su-25. So there are still 14 guys missing.
It's confirmed shot down by Osa, he fly to high for MANPAD. Osa work in passive mode with TV channel.
Be patient. Before Azeri claimed they didn't use manned airplanes in combat, now they confirm they use them and 1 Su-25 was shot down. With time we will find out, that maybe more than 1 Su-25 was shot down, or more helicopters. Azeris will not tell all losses at once. We know, there were many dead pilots and Azeris didn't use pilots for infantry.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:wrong: all of NK is claimed by them, but Russia stopped it from being taken back, with the Mi-24 & 2 pilots loss being the last drop in her cup of patience..Azerbaijan has no claim to the areas Russia is in.
Russia does not claim NK as its own soil you twit.
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I didn't imply that; they did it on behalf of ethnic Armenians.
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I post links ( that btw contain useful info. for analysis) to show what is being written by different entities, not to support their biases & points of view- as a popular disclaimer states: "ideas & opinions expressed may or may not agree with those of the author's." I'm not going to parrot others in their criticisms of those they oppose "on the geopolitical chessboard"- by presenting the full spectrum of propaganda out there, I show to be an impartial observer.miketheterrible wrote:You can't even distinguish a fucking meme picture either. You are beyond retarded- only a retard will chose such pic as an avatar!
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/713972-valve
You just proved me right btw. Thanks!
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Tsavo Lion wrote:I post links ( that btw contain useful info. for analysis) to show what is being written by different entities, not to support their biases & points of view- as a popular disclaimer states: "ideas & opinions expressed may or may not agree with those of the author's." I'm not going to parrot others in their criticisms of those they oppose "on the geopolitical chessboard"- by presenting the full spectrum of propaganda out there, I show to be an impartial observer.miketheterrible wrote:You can't even distinguish a fucking meme picture either. You are beyond retarded- only a retard will chose such pic as an avatar!
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/713972-valve
You just proved me right btw. Thanks!
No you don't. You actually post shit and believe what it posts like the Ukrainian Antonov thread. You outed yourself long ago.
No point defending yourself as we have already gone through this once before. Posting shit to look "impartial" isn't actually smart nor convincing.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:...I post links ( that btw contain useful info. for analysis) to show what is being written by different entities, not to support their biases & points of view- as a popular disclaimer states: opinions expressed may or may not agree with those of the author's." I'm not going to parrot others in their criticisms of those they oppose "on the geopolitical chessboard"- by presenting the full spectrum of propaganda out there, I show to be an impartial observer
Bullshit
You exclusively post trash and you always do it by hiding web address behind hyperlink in text (so people can't know what they are clicking on) instead of posting web address separately
You know that if you were to do it majority of people would never click on that trash in a million years
This way you hope you can sucker small percentage into clicking
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PapaDragon wrote:Tsavo Lion wrote:...I post links ( that btw contain useful info. for analysis) to show what is being written by different entities, not to support their biases & points of view- as a popular disclaimer states: opinions expressed may or may not agree with those of the author's." I'm not going to parrot others in their criticisms of those they oppose "on the geopolitical chessboard"- by presenting the full spectrum of propaganda out there, I show to be an impartial observer
Bullshit
You exclusively post trash and you always do it by hiding web address behind hyperlink in text (so people can't know what they are clicking on) instead of posting web address separately
You know that if you were to do it majority of people would never click on that trash in a million years
This way you hope you can sucker small percentage into clicking
Very true, this is why I don't click/read anything by him and vann.
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PapaDragon wrote:You exclusively post trash and you always do it by hiding web address behind hyperlink in text (so people can't know what they are clicking on) instead of posting web address separately- it's true only for the https://jamestown.org/ , as I know GarryB & probably some others don't like it. I do it also not to make my posts too big.
whatever links I post may contain things I do & don't agree with- hairsplitting is best left for others to bother with; if I post them, it's to support my particular views on topics discussed here- forums r for discussions of different opinions, not for posts by like minded "yes" men only. At the same time, I don't try to impose my views on any1 & if my arguments r not accepted, I expect others to agree to disagree with me instead for calling names & pointing fingers. If this isn't clear enough, tough shit!You actually post shit and believe what it posts like the Ukrainian Antonov thread.
After the war: Touring Azerbaijan's reclaimed territories
Russia and Turkey to Continue Military Cooperation Despite US Sanctions
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3155565.html
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FSB of Russia strengthens itself in Transcaucasia in the second echelon https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3155938.html
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