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Backman wrote:All of this talk about the drones in this war. But this wasn't the first war with drones. There was Georgia. This is the Mig 29 vs Israel drone in Georgia. Obviously drone tech has improved since 08. But this Mig 29 makes it look easy. What would have happen if Mig 29's and su 25's just flew into the same air space as the Bayraktar's ? Could they just take them out like this ?
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kvs wrote:Why are MANPADs not a viable option? Deploying a full sized jet to shoot down glorified toys seems to be wasteful.
If the range of MANPADs is too small, then perhaps scaling them up would be a good idea. As long as they remain
relatively portable.
Backman wrote:^ Yeah but again that suggests something has to be reinvented to counter drones. When it looks like a Mig 29 with a functioning radar and some air to air missiles can get it done
In 2008, the Russian airforce shot down 7 Hermese 450 drones.
This is the size of them. Similar weight class as the TB2.
That does not make an infantry portable anti-drone weapon a useless concept. Nobody is going to have jets loitering
over every ground forces deployment so their added value is not really a selling point. As with all other weapons systems
there is an evolutionary process. If drones are designed to avoid MANPADs, then design new MANPADs.
The same goes for S-400 systems. They are too few and too precious to cover every soldier. MANPADs are cheaper
and more practical. Too much masturbation about drone capability these days.
kvs wrote:Why are MANPADs not a viable option? Deploying a full sized jet to shoot down glorified toys seems to be wasteful.
If the range of MANPADs is too small, then perhaps scaling them up would be a good idea. As long as they remain
relatively portable.
KoTeMoRe wrote:kvs wrote:Why are MANPADs not a viable option? Deploying a full sized jet to shoot down glorified toys seems to be wasteful.
If the range of MANPADs is too small, then perhaps scaling them up would be a good idea. As long as they remain
relatively portable.
Ceiling.
miketheterrible wrote:or manpads on drones.
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Isos wrote:Because if the enemy has fighters with r-73 like missiles those manpad carrying drones will be easy pray. They will very easily tatget them since small drones like TB2 can't carry manpads, you would need a bigger drone.
Just see in Libya how 4 mig-29 stopped the operation of Turkish drones without even fighting them. Before that they had chinese attack drones which didn't really helped. Using real fighters efficiently is way better than using some drones efficiently.
Isos wrote:Because if the enemy has fighters with r-73 like missiles those manpad carrying drones will be easy pray. They will very easily tatget them since small drones like TB2 can't carry manpads, you would need a bigger drone.
Just see in Libya how 4 mig-29 stopped the operation of Turkish drones without even fighting them. Before that they had chinese attack drones which didn't really helped. Using real fighters efficiently is way better than using some drones efficiently.
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Something seemingly Mi-8/17 based getting shot down. Allegedly in Karabakh, allegedly Azerbaijanian.
https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1340771463570350081
franco wrote:Armenian opposition proposes to place a second Russian military base in the country...
franco wrote:..Initially, the period of stay of the Russian military on the territory of Armenia was 25 years, but in 2010 the document was amended, increasing the period from 25 to 49 years.
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