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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:46 pm

    medo wrote:GRAPHIC. 18+



    Armenian soldiers bury Azerbaijani soldiers in a mass grave

    Artzach army quickly bury Azerbaijani soldiers to prevent spreading of deceases. Azerbaijani army doesn't care for their dead soldiers and leave them behind and don't take them to hide the numbers of dead soldiers. Artzach army now have to bury they in mass graves, so no one count those dead Azerbaijani soldiers. Azerbaijani losses are realy high and some claim even to 15 thousand killed soldiers. What is wrong here is the fact, that those Azerbaijani bodies are in hands of Artzach army. If Azerbaijani army is advancing as Turko-Azeri propagandy lie, than all those body should be on territory controled by Azerbaijani army, who should bury them to prevent spreading illneses in Azerbaijani army. Considering, that it is Artzach army, who take care of them means, that this territora is under control of Artzach army and this is a prove, that Azerbaijani army is retreating under heavy losses.

    Artzach army with dead Azerbaijani soldiers also got Azerbaijani armament, so they replace destroyed armament with Azerbaijani armament.

    That was a AZ Navy recon group with their sentry dog.
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    Post  Regular Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NKA doesn't have 138 tanks. The current strike tally is due to many reruns on the strike and multiple angles strikes were taken, including HAROP hits filmed by TB-2's that you can them claim were two tanks hit by two different systems.

    Today's video shows two, three runs to destroy Grad launchers. It's evident that TB-2's lack punch, but accuracy doesn't look bad. MAMs seem to be capable to lock on mid flight.
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    Post  Isos Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:50 pm

    Russia has the Korsar UAV that they could buy and bomb the same way Azeri stuff in NK.

    They recently showed missiles for such drones.

    They can also ask for chinese ch-92A that were recently bought by Serbia for very cheap.

    200-300 missiles would make the Azeri stop the war.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:37 pm

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:48 pm

    Reports of Azeri's closing on the Lachin corridor.

    If that corridor falls, The Armenians will be in a very very bad situation.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:15 am

    Regular wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NKA doesn't have 138 tanks. The current strike tally is due to many reruns on the strike and multiple angles strikes were taken, including HAROP hits filmed by TB-2's that you can them claim were two tanks hit by two different systems.

    Today's video shows two, three runs to destroy Grad launchers. It's evident that TB-2's lack punch, but accuracy doesn't look bad. MAMs seem to be capable to lock on mid flight.

    Actually it cannot. The ammunution is either GPS guided for extended range (accuracy drops) or lased in which in return makes the targeting detectable to LWR.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:25 am

    Isos wrote:Russia has the Korsar UAV that they could buy and bomb the same way Azeri stuff in NK.

    They recently showed missiles for such drones.

    They can also ask for chinese ch-92A that were recently bought by Serbia for very cheap.

    200-300 missiles would make the Azeri stop the war.

    Korsar has too small of a range with its current weapons and its ISR payload would not do much good as Armenia does not have any guided ammunition to use the targeting system of the Korsar.
    Serbia could serve as an intermediate seller for that.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:54 am


    This whole thing really does look like redux of what Milosevic did here in the 90s

    More and more people are coming to conclusion that Pasha kicked off this fiasco in order to get rid of Nagorno Karabah which​ is seen (by Brussels) as the core issue that keeps Armenia in Russia's orbit and away from EU

    Another similarity is the mistake Armenian military leadership is making by not taking Pasha out which is the same mistake Serbian military made after Milosevic pulled the great fire-sale of 95

    They should have killed Milosevic on the spot but instead they were covering their own asses and thought that they will be safe if they play along which was obviously false because it obviously didn't stop with 95

    Most of them had zero loyalty towards Serbian nation since they were all part of Slobo's old loyal commie gang but this should not be the case with Armenia and their military should be well aware that something serious is up and that they got a rat in the kitchen

    And just like with Serbia the whole Armenia/Azerbaijan thing will definitely not end with Nagorno Karabah, Turks want the whole thing and they need physical contact in order to complete their geopolitical project

    Armenia is right in the middle of it and it has to go, part of it or the whole thing, whichever works

    CSTO protects Armenia proper but protection of Nagorno Karabah hinged on verbal agreements between Russian and Armenian officials, Pasha made those agreements null and void with his EU bullshittery (most likely intentionally)

    Russia has no reason to get involved in this nonsense and it won't be (why should they give EU what they want?)

    Armenian Military has some decisions to make and they better make them soon, clock is ticking

    They can learn from our mistakes or they can play along and kick the can down the road, it's their funeral



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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:28 am

    Updated names and photos of 740 Azeri soldiers killed in Karabakh so far.

    https://m.facebook.com/herbimedia/
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:30 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Reports of Azeri's closing on the Lachin corridor.

    If that corridor falls, The Armenians will be in a very very bad situation.

    If Azeri soldiers stand on the Armenian border then fine by me. But they won't last long under Armenian artillery fire at the border.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:29 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    This whole thing really does look like redux of what Milosevic did here in the 90s

    More and more people are coming to conclusion that Pasha kicked off this fiasco in order to get rid of Nagorno Karabah which​ is seen (by Brussels) as the core issue that keeps Armenia in Russia's orbit and away from EU

    Another similarity is the mistake Armenian military leadership is making by not taking Pasha out which is the same mistake Serbian military made after Milosevic pulled the great fire-sale of 95

    They should have killed Milosevic on the spot but instead they were covering their own asses and thought that they will be safe if they play along which was obviously false because it obviously didn't stop with 95

    Most of them had zero loyalty towards Serbian nation since they were all part of Slobo's old loyal commie gang but this should not be the case with Armenia and their military should be well aware that something serious is up and that they got a rat in the kitchen

    And just like with Serbia the whole Armenia/Azerbaijan thing will definitely not end with Nagorno Karabah, Turks want the whole thing and they need physical contact in order to complete their geopolitical project

    Armenia is right in the middle of it and it has to go, part of it or the whole thing, whichever works

    CSTO protects Armenia proper but protection of Nagorno Karabah hinged on verbal agreements between Russian and Armenian officials, Pasha made those agreements null and void with his EU bullshittery (most likely intentionally)

    Russia has no reason to get involved in this nonsense and it won't be (why should they give EU what they want?)

    Armenian Military has some decisions to make and they better make them soon, clock is ticking

    They can learn from our mistakes or they can play along and kick the can down the road, it's their funeral




    Actually this a mixed bag of all post CW conflicts. Pash created a rift with Russia, but the problem is not at all that. The problem is that Armenia is poor as fuck, and post poned a thorough modernisation until 2016 when they got hit. From there on they goût the point they had no cash and sugardady.

    On the other side Azerbaijan is a fucking medieval looney bin with oil money which allons them to both keep this whole situation trap shut but also get the world to remain silent about various things like how they are able to go around the various embargos.

    ASK yourself if this was Russia riding Georgia hard for 27 days what would be the outcry.

    Then couple of things.

    Straight up warcrimes with LAR submunitions - zilch response.
    Georgia facilitating weapons transfers through its airspace - dindu nuffin.
    Turkish drones from TSK, not export, involved in all out war including strikes in Armenia - hilarious non-response.
    Pow execution - War crime probe delayed because AZ has promised inquiry.
    I mean if anyone here get that Armenia got conned by its leadership but doesn’t get that even with a Pro-Russia leadership the game is fucking rigged I cannot help you.

    And if your add Russia taking it personally and letting Armenia rot to make an example among other things, you got the bloodbath of now.
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    Post  Fred333 Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:18 pm

    One thing that strikes me is that military blogs like warisboring and orynx spioenkop are all amplifying the Azeri claims and neglecting the Armenian side of the conflict. This feeds my suspicion that these are MIC NATO tools and propaganda outlets masquerading as independent blogging enthusiasts, similar to bellingcat. It is doubly surprising after all the human rights blabla agenda they usually virtue signal and the well known armenian genocide. I guess a second genocide is acceptable if it somehow disadvantages Russia.
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    Post  nomadski Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:19 pm

    Who is native and who is invasive species?  What population is in decline and what increasing. We afford animals better protection. And we don't ask about their politics...........



    https://youtu.be/G1JmHiQ41eA


    And to preserve declining populations, they need migratory corridors.............


    https://youtu.be/Q9u6uxdcx8Y
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:23 pm

    What'[colwhats up with you, dude?
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:43 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:...I mean if anyone here get that Armenia got conned by its leadership but doesn’t get that even with a Pro-Russia leadership the game is fucking rigged I cannot help you...

    With Pro-Russia leadership the game wouldn't have been rigged because the game would not have been played at all

    Turks didn't just decide suddenly to make their move out of the blue, Armenia made that decision for them when they discarded protection that Russia was providing for the past 30 years

    They saw the opportunity that Armenia offered to them and they took it


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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:27 pm

    Canada stopped exporting the UAV engines to Turkey .

    wake of reports that some of those engines are being used on Turkish combat drones deployed by Azerbaijan in fighting against Armenian forces in Nagorno-Karabakh

    The Quebec-based company — better known for its Ski-Doo and Lynx snowmobiles — said it became aware late last week that some of the recreational aircraft engines produced by its Austrian subsidiary, Rotax, are being used on Turkish Bayraktar TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs)

    "We have recently been made aware that some Rotax engines are currently used in military UAVs, and have started a thorough investigation immediately," Martin Langelier, BPR's senior vice president and the company's spokesperson, told Radio Canada International in an email statement

    "In the meantime, we are suspending delivery of aircraft engines in countries with unclear usage"
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/turkey-armenia-azerbaijan-drones-bombardier-1.5775350
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:29 pm

    TB-2 now can't get neither new EO/IR nor Rotax engines .
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    Post  Isos Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:37 pm

    That's official. But on the black market they will sell them through fake companies. Canadians are piece of shit.

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    Post  Isos Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:42 pm

    Iran may really need to get involved in this war.


    Maysam Behravesh
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    The prevailing perception in Tehran is that #Azerbaijan's recapture & control of #NagornoKarabakh will likely fuel Turkish/Azeri separatist sentiments & ambitions in #Iran's adjacent provinces in northwest, which could threaten its national security & territorial integrity


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    On the background of continuing hiting of Iranian side of border by differents rockets, projectiles and drones from the zone of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, Iran continue to strengthen their military forces on the border with Azerbaijan.


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    Another tail part of 300mm "Smerch" rocket that landed in Iran
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:43 pm

    Isos wrote:That's official. But on the black market they will sell them through fake companies. Canadians are piece of shit.

    I don't think so , this is part of the new temporary EU and US punishments as a response to the S-400 and supporting Greece against Turkey .
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:45 pm

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54645254

    https://korrespondent.net/world/4287872-azerbaidzhan-soobschyl-ob-uspekhakh-v-karabakhe

    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/10/24/samolet/

    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/10/24/iran/

    https://112.ua/mir/peregovory-po-karabahu-v-ssha-armeniya-soglasna-na-mirotvorcev-azerbaydzhan-slozhit-oruzhie-554714.html
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    Post  franco Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:46 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Isos wrote:That's official. But on the black market they will sell them through fake companies. Canadians are piece of shit.

    I don't think so , this is part of the new temporary EU and US punishments as a response to the S-400 and supporting Greece against Turkey .

    Just read that the Ukrainians are offering to furnish the engines to replace the Canadian ones.
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:10 pm

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    ahmedfire wrote:
    Isos wrote:That's official. But on the black market they will sell them through fake companies. Canadians are piece of shit.

    I don't think so , this is part of the new temporary EU and US punishments as a response to the S-400 and supporting Greece against Turkey .

    Just read that the Ukrainians are offering to furnish the engines to replace the Canadian ones.

    Could be but at least the decision will stop the UAV exports for now .

    EU can stop more hardware and software for the Turkish UAVs , as example :

    TDW , a subsidiary company of MBDA in Germany is designing anti-tank missile, OMTAS .

    US UTAS is providing Turkey with INS and laser technology of the MAM-L,C .

    German CONTINENTAL MOTORS: producing engines "Continental CD 155 " for Turkish UAVs .

    NUMERICS SOFTWARE GMBH: helped Turkey with the software of rockets launched FROM UAVs .
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm

    Isos wrote:Iran may really need to get involved in this war.


    Maysam Behravesh
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    The prevailing perception in Tehran is that #Azerbaijan's recapture & control of #NagornoKarabakh will likely fuel Turkish/Azeri separatist sentiments & ambitions in #Iran's adjacent provinces in northwest, which could threaten its national security & territorial integrity....
    ...

    If there is any war that Iran can get involved in without getting super slammed it's this one

    It's remote, arms embrago is about to expire anyway and it won't be getting renewed, they have actual reasons to get involved and nobody gives enough shits about Armenia or Azerbaijan to anything major about it


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:44 pm

    There's only thing left for the Soros trash Pussyninnyan, completely stepping down and having all your close political and economic allies put behind bars for your treason. I have no doubt now that he was going to let NK wither on the vine, sabotage relations with Russia, and integrate in to the UrinePeon Union.

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