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    UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News #2

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:15 pm

    Construction of the first Russian factory for the serial production of drones in Dubna. At the moment, the metal structure of the main building and the frame of the administrative and household complex are ready.
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    Post  bandit6 Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:23 pm

    I just think that there are probably hundreds of bugs in the structure already
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    Post  Mir Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:56 pm

    bandit6 wrote:I just think that there are probably hundreds of bugs in the structure already

    Good thing it's not the WTC then! Those things were built to last... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:07 am

    There is no other technology used for industrial construction for 15 years or so.
    It is by far the most cost-effective technology, and buildings can be erected with a factor of conventional building time.
    Steel core housing is the mainstay of Chinese housing construction, too.
    That is why they can make millions of new homes and buildings in a relatively short period.
    You can order a 150m2 full home set for $30k, FOB container delivered to your nearest harbor.
    A steel core is rated for 100 years operation period, and that means functionally only that there are no data to shorten "forever last" time.
    For example, a concrete prefabricated buildings widely erected in the 60s-90s were rated for 40 years, but constantly refuse to cooperate and standing firm 60 years after.
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    Post  Hole Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:09 am

    He meant spy devices, not construction failures. Very Happy
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:14 am

    Yeah, I was considering this was his concept either, but found it too bizarre to consider serious, and picked construction issues as valid Laughing Laughing
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    Post  Mir Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:37 am

    Hole wrote:He meant spy devices, not construction failures. Very Happy

    Don't think so Smile
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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:21 pm

    Organic or spy related?

    This building will likely be debugged on a regular basis for both types of bugs just as a matter of course, because both types can be damaging.

    The structure seems to be metal so I don't know of many bugs that will infest and eat in to that to be honest.
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    Post  bandit6 Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:12 pm

    I meant the nato might have been planting spy device in structure
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    Post  Mir Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:25 pm

    bandit6 wrote:I meant the nato might have been planting spy device in structure

    Yes and Russia hacked all the US nuclear codes.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:53 pm

    bandit6 wrote:I meant the nato might have been planting spy device in structure

    And learn what?

    That some assembly line worker is cheating on his wife with a dude called Ahmed from Uzbekistan?

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    Post  franco Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:37 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    bandit6 wrote:I meant the nato might have been planting spy device in structure

    And learn what?

    That some assembly line worker is cheating on his wife with a dude called Ahmed from Uzbekistan?

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:41 pm

    franco wrote:
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    bandit6 wrote:I meant the nato might have been planting spy device in structure

    And learn what?

    That some assembly line worker is cheating on his wife with a dude called Ahmed from Uzbekistan?

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    Post  GarryB Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:17 am

    Being a site of military significance I would expect it to be monitored for signals and bugs and other things... that is just normal.

    People wanting to work there would also be vetted to reduce the risk of problems, but such things can never be 100% certain.
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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:26 pm

    NATzO spying is real. We already saw this with the attempt to steal hypersonic system secretes from an affiliated researcher.
    Even though Bolton claimed Russia stole the tech from the USA, which is a nice propaganda cover for the thievery that Bolton's
    side is engaged in.

    The problem is not bugs, but human meat. There is always some loser who can be bought with dollars who thinks the US is
    heaven on Earth. The Russian government needs to install its own bugs to catch the philandering traitor who is eager to
    sell out.

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    Post  Isos Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:56 pm

    kvs wrote:NATzO spying is real.  We already saw this with the attempt to steal hypersonic system secretes from an affiliated researcher.
    Even though Bolton claimed Russia stole the tech from the USA, which is a nice propaganda cover for the thievery that Bolton's
    side is engaged in.  

    The problem is not bugs, but human meat.   There is always some loser who can be bought with dollars who thinks the US is
    heaven on Earth.   The Russian government needs to install its own bugs to catch the philandering traitor who is eager to
    sell out.

    Unless it's a very top guy, a lonely traitor isn't enough to cause trouble even if he gives everthing he knows. Modern stuff involve tens of different companies with hundreds of workers which don't really share what they do, especially on top secret or highly strategical stuff.

    Edit: I would also add that Russia doesn't forbid to go out of the country so if the guy loves the US just resign, get a visa and go away. That's simple and doesn't risk your live by getting a target drawn on your back for one of the most powerful intel agency in the world.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:15 am

    This is all true, but then Russia also bought and paid for new ship building technology and thermal imager technology too.... they paid the South Koreans to build them a port/shipyard in the Far East to build super tankers and potentially super carriers if they wanted them, and they also paid France to build Mistrals and install thermals for foreign customers initially and then for themselves too.... but these Russians who were making things for foreign customers didn't disappear in a puff of smoke when their work was done... and they weren't just guys off the street, they were experts in the field who probably learned quite a bit with licence production of the foreign stuff but also likely contributed Russian features and adaptations that probably helped French optics companies and South Korean Ship building companies to be better too.

    Russian conditions would be quite different from those in the west so some features and design ideas might not be possible for Russia, so many things were likely adapted too.

    Someone who makes night vision optics is not an idiot, but will be unable to make up to date optics without help... but once they get that help then they have the potential to look at the current state of the art in the west and use their base knowledge and skill to further improve the designs... make them better performing or cheaper or easier to make etc etc... no technology stands still and it is often on the factory floor where it is produced that a lot of new ideas can be tested to make it smaller and faster and cheaper or more reliable... something a lot of western countries lost when they shifted production to other countries...
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    Post  ult Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:13 pm

    I haven't found the source yet, from the recent Zvezda video about the Zapad 2021. Forpost-R and Inokhodets were used in a fire support role.

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    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/20219131811-GaJks.html

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 pm

    In the video you can see one Orion. Also some ISDM mine layers and a BMP-3 Epokha firing two Kornet missiles. It seems there were at least 2 or 3 BMP-3´s with the new turret. Some Uran-9 and another combat robot were busy, too.

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    Post  ult Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:09 pm

    ult wrote:I haven't found the source yet, from the recent Zvezda video about the Zapad 2021. Forpost-R and Inokhodets were used in a fire support role.

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    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/20219131811-GaJks.html

    Here is a video from VK.

    https://vk.com/shtab24?w=wall-206639135_19883

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    Post  George1 Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:24 pm

    "Forpost-R" in strike version

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    Post  Hole Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:49 pm

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