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    US-Iran standoff 2019- #2

    nomadski
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    Post  nomadski on Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:41 pm


    This truncated purchases from East and West, is a combined result of a lack of long term and collective geo-political foresight. The arrow of attack, significant and recent and ancient, points to an East / west divide. As well as North / South divide. A resolution of these attacks, or a combination, points to a North West to South East tension. If we plotted, even recent military movements, together with their relative size and direction, we clearly see this. To get stability, we need front line states to be equally well armed. Hence Russia and Iran, become protectors of the East. Against the western expansion. If they form strong alliance. NATO expansion can stop. France, like England and America, share colonial expansionist idea, towards the world, particularly the East . They always support each other.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:50 pm

    France & UK were stopped at Suez Crisis by USA & USSR; France allowed/facilitated Khomeini's return to Iran from exile.
    In short, France is the wild card.

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    Post  crod on Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:44 pm

    Isos wrote:

    Since EU sucks at diplomacy,

    lol! lol! lol!
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:02 am

    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/09/28/us-threat-to-evacuate-iraq-embassy-raises-fear-of-war/

    The couldn't beat them in Syria & Afghanistan (Iran allegedly offered to pay/paid bounties for dead GIs), so may try that in Iraq.


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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:50 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:

    The couldn't beat them in Syria & Afghanistan (Iran allegedly offered to pay/paid bounties for dead GIs), so may try that in Iraq.

    The US defence/intelligence establishment debunked the Russian paying bounties story a month or so ago. I have no doubt that if there was any evidence at all that Iran did the same we would have heard it by now.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:11 pm

    I have no doubt that if there was any evidence at all that Iran did the same we would have heard it by now.

    If there's evidence, they won't reveal much lest intel sources, capabilities & methods r compromised.
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:09 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    I have no doubt that if there was any evidence at all that Iran did the same we would have heard it by now.

    If there's evidence, they won't reveal much lest intel sources, capabilities & methods r compromised.

    Maybe but I think that you underestimate the need of some in the US to bash the Iranians.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:34 am

    To protect intel sources they just wont list them... they didn't list any intel sources when they claimed it was the Russians offering bounties, why would they think it necessary to expose any to accuse Iran?

    BTW Saudi Arabia does this sort of thing all the time...

    Besides I suspect most of their intel sources are fat retired intel officers in the UK... they give the answers they want to hear... who cares about truth or reality... what if it is not true... that is no use at all...

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