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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:58 am

    So wait a minute....

    In this regard, RZD International, which is in charge of the holding's foreign projects, has stopped work on electrification of the Garmsar - Inche Burun line and closes a branch in Tehran.

    "JSC RZD [Russian Railways] expresses confidence that withdrawal of RZD International from the Garmsar - Inche Bourun Project shall not affect the partnership between Russian Railways and Iranian Railways, which is carried out first of all in the field of international logistics including the International North - South Transport Corridor development," the company wrote in a statement.

    JSC RZD is Russian Railways, and RZD International is the part of JSC RZD that handles international contracts, so that the contract does not impact on other projects around the world.

    What we don't know is whether there is another Russian company, that doesn't operate anywhere else around the world, that has stepped in to do the work.

    Hopefully that is the case...

    We can complain about it, but at the end of the day if they are making 2 billion on this project but US sanctions could cost them 20 billion then it makes sense to drop out. It would also make sense to screw any American subcontractor as far as you can or just eliminate them from your business and start making yourself more sanction proof.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:52 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Russia is preparing a new railway for the Northern Sea Route
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:58 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    Russia is preparing a new railway for the Northern Sea Route
    Wish they had included a map.

    The Russian government has started considering the construction of Railways to the Northern sea route as part of the new Siberian Meridian project, which was announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Valdai club in 2019.

    As reported on Friday, the publication "Zapolyarnaya Pravda", the project is planned to implement previously planned construction projects, including the Northern wide course, as well as new lines in Siberia and the Arctic, stretching thousands of kilometers.

    Previously, the cost of the project "Siberian Meridian" will be 4.93 trillion rubles. The project assumes that by 2035, a railway freight service will be established between Russia and China bypassing the TRANS-Siberian railway, which will cover large areas in the Arctic and Siberia

    "The construction of a double — track electrified railway ring Salekhard — Nadym — Urengoy — Surgut — Tyumen — Yekaterinburg — Perm — Yaroslavl—Ob-Salekhard will begin," the material says.

    The Russian President spoke about the development of this route in October last year, noting that this would allow the TRANS-Siberian railway to be unloaded, while providing the first clusters of the Angara-Yenisei macroregion with transport capacity, contribute to the development of the Arctic transport hub, and free up the way for passenger transport.

    "The" Siberian Meridian "includes the projects" Northern latitudinal course "Ob-Salekhard-Nadym-Khorey and" Northern latitudinal course-2 " Bovanenkovo-Sabetta, the section of Kyzyl-Kuragino is proposed to extend to the border station ARS-Suuri, which will connect it with the projected Mungan —Ovoot — Erdenet line in Mongolia," the publication reports.

    It is noted that the Union "Northern Industrialists and entrepreneurs" about ten years ago proposed to include in the development Strategy of Siberia until 2020 the construction of a railway to Igarka and Norilsk, but then the project was not implemented.
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:39 pm



    This is old news, but the video is interesting. Russia is reviving the frozen project for rail links in Siberia that were planned
    under Stalin. Scumbag, 5th column maggot Khruschev iced the project and stopped development of this important region
    of Russia. Now the US is worried about Russia reviving the project. Which is a very good thing, since it means the
    project is good for Russia to the point of boosting its global power.


    This project provides hard transport links to the Yamal and its natural gas extraction activity. This project also will service
    the North Sea Route by creating substantial port infrastructure.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:08 am

    The north sea route will greatly increase shipping traffic along the northern border of Russia, which means more business for ports along the NSR. Having rail links leading from those ports south to connect main rail links across Russia would greatly improve access to the region.

    It is comparable to the united states of america where europeans arrived on the east coast from europe and had a long hard journey ahead of them to get to the west coast... not train no roads no planes and no easy way to sail there by ship at the time except to go round the southern tip of south america...

    Building rail lines and then roads opened up the country and allowed enormous growth and development... the same will happen in the Russian arctic and far east.... of course the Americans oppose that... they harbour dreams of Siberia breaking away from Russia and selling oil and wood and gas to the US cheap in return for protection from evil Russia... you know... the way they hoped the Ukraine would turn out... except all the Ukraine had was coal and an oil and gas dependency on Russia.
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    Post  Scorpius Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:08 pm

    Despite the difficult epidemic situation, the Russian Railways holding company maintains regular routes, ensuring stable transport links between the regions of Russia. The number of long-distance passenger trains is increasing by 2.2% (up to 596 pairs daily), including daytime trains on 49 routes (45 routes in 2020), double – Decker trains on 15 routes (13 routes in 2020).

    In the new schedule, the number of rapid and high-speed trains will increase by 6%: it will increase to 401 and will make up almost 66.3% of the total number.

    Taking into account demand, 27 pairs of new trains were added to the new schedule and 14 pairs of previously run trains were canceled, as well as the extension of existing routes is provided. This will allow passengers to choose new convenient travel options.

    The total size of commuter traffic in the 2020/2021 schedule increased by 3% to 4,032 pairs, of which 488 pairs will be formed by Lastochka trains (in 2019/2020-434 pairs):
    282 pairs - on the Moscow railway, 124 pairs – on the Oktyabrskaya railway, 23 pairs – on the Sverdlovsk railway, 33 pairs – on the Kaliningrad railway, 24 pairs-on the North Caucasus railway and 2 pairs – on the South Ural railway.

    https://www.rzd.ru/ru/9284/page/3102?id=257931

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:27 pm

    moscow metro station i used a lot vs nyc subway station i use a lot
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    https://twitter.com/kazbek/status/1338610762072399877

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:46 pm

    Because America is so rich. Like most 3rd world banana republics. The only difference is that the US 1% are hyper rich.

    If you hear some US bootlick mass media chirp about income inequality in Russia, consider what it is like in the USA. The
    US income distribution is a (1/|x|)^n function (mirrored on the x-axis around 0) where n is a large number. It is limiting
    to a delta function.

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:15 am

    I used to go through Penn station and it's actually decent. Not as nice as the Moscow one.

    But the homeless sleeping on the ground at the station was worst than the stations in New Delhi as example.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:10 am

    moscow metro station i used a lot vs nyc subway station i use a lot

    Wow... like comparing a high class well funded museum with City 17 after the alien invasion in Half Life...

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:54 am

    GarryB wrote:
    moscow metro station i used a lot vs nyc subway station i use a lot

    Wow... like comparing a high class well funded museum with City 17 after the alien invasion in Half Life...

    Funny that. The western mind space is still occupied with grossly outdated stereotypes of "Russia" (which
    they think is equivalent to the USSR). I would say that there is denial of the reality of modern Russia.
    That is why those few westerners that went for the soccer World Cup were surprised by what the saw.




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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:07 am

    kvs wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    moscow metro station i used a lot vs nyc subway station i use a lot

    Wow... like comparing a high class well funded museum with City 17 after the alien invasion in Half Life...

    Funny that.  The western mind space is still occupied with grossly outdated stereotypes of "Russia" (which
    they think is equivalent to the USSR).   I would say that there is denial of the reality of modern Russia.
    That is why those few westerners that went for the soccer World Cup were surprised by what the saw.





    If they were surprised, it just means they were idiots and believed the propaganda.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:09 am

    Most people in the west really don't give much thought to what life is like anywhere else... Russia, Syria, Afghanistan, two countries across and down on the map from their own country.

    They might care about a place they holiday on a regular basis but really don't spend that much time thinking about anywhere else.

    They have no reason not to believe what their TV tells them... and to be fair it wouldn't make much difference anyway... they will realise their media and politicians lie to them but they already know that anyway... they just believe stuff and go along with lies because it is easier than bothering to learn the truth and realising their enemies are not Russians, but their own leadership misdirecting their views about how the world really works...
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:42 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    moscow metro station i used a lot vs nyc subway station i use a lot
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    https://twitter.com/kazbek/status/1338610762072399877


    I know, i was shocked when i saw the metro stations in NY.

    When i pointed that out to a friend living there, he just said thst it is normal as they run 24 a day and there is not much time to clean... bleargh...


    I love to see the metro station in Moscow.

    Truth to be told, the ones made in Krushov time are not as nice as the one made when Stalin was the boss. I mean, they are clean and functional, but they are "plain" metro stations. Most of those made under Stalin rules are pieces of art.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:30 pm

    The volume of people using the Moscow metro is substantially larger than the New York metro.   In 2018
    the ridership in Moscow was 2.5 billion and in New York it was about 1.7 billion.  The excuse that
    the NY subway operates 24/7 is inane since it is not used at full load in the middle of the night.   Closing
    it down for between 1 am and 5:30 am would not degrade its service.

    New York simply does not have the budget allocated to properly maintain it. So where is all that vaunted
    wealth?

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    Post  calripson Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:08 pm

    kvs wrote:The volume of people using the Moscow metro is substantially larger than the New York metro.   In 2018
    the ridership in Moscow was 2.5 billion and in New York it was about 1.7 billion.  The excuse that
    the NY subway operates 24/7 is inane since it is not used at full load in the middle of the night.   Closing
    it down for between 1 am and 5:30 am would not degrade its service.

    New York simply does not have the budget allocated to properly maintain it.   So where is all that vaunted
    wealth?


    The Russian budget for 2021 is $289 billion (approximately). New York City's budget is $88 billion. NYC spends 30% of the entire country of Russia on a municipal budget and still has metros that look like crap.

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    Post  Hole Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:45 pm

    Because the prize level is 5 to 10 times higher in Bidenland then in Russia. This has to do with "service" economy and, of course, corruption in the beacon of free markets, human rights and vote rigging... er, democracy.

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:10 pm

    calripson wrote:
    kvs wrote:The volume of people using the Moscow metro is substantially larger than the New York metro.   In 2018
    the ridership in Moscow was 2.5 billion and in New York it was about 1.7 billion.  The excuse that
    the NY subway operates 24/7 is inane since it is not used at full load in the middle of the night.   Closing
    it down for between 1 am and 5:30 am would not degrade its service.

    New York simply does not have the budget allocated to properly maintain it.   So where is all that vaunted
    wealth?


    The Russian budget for 2021 is $289 billion (approximately). New York City's budget is $88 billion. NYC spends 30% of the entire country of Russia on a municipal budget and still has metros that look like crap.

    You are not accounting for PPP. The Moscow budget is over $50 billion US.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:13 pm

    Hole wrote:Because the prize level is 5 to 10 times higher in Bidenland then in Russia. This has to do with "service" economy and, of course, corruption in the beacon of free markets, human rights and vote rigging... er, democracy.

    Brib'em All Laughing
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:15 pm

    Hole wrote:Because the prize level is 5 to 10 times higher in Bidenland then in Russia. This has to do with "service" economy and, of course, corruption in the beacon of free markets, human rights and vote rigging... er, democracy.

    New York sent Covid-19 patients to old age homes because it lacked hospital space. Sending them home would have exposed their
    families and thus compounding the health care load.

    Your comment is right on target. The US GDP has to be scaled by its real prices. One of the signs that the PPP factor calculated
    for Russia is BS is that the Russian health care system is not in crisis like the one in the USA and Canada. Medical prices in the
    USA are insane. Yet somehow this barely affects the PPP. Total, unmitigated nonsense.

    The PPP is like the CPI, some concoction using ad hoc weights. The clowns who came up with this Mickey Mouse metric should
    apply those same weights when they calculate their GDP. That would deflate it by a factor over 3.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:57 am

    You guys are missing the obvious... the US subways don't look like the Russian subways not because they can't or wont afford it... it is because rich people don't go anywhere near the subway so it is not actually considered a problem... who cares what working people see going to and from work every day?

    They do obviously but what say do they get in todays America?

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    Post  calripson Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:36 pm

    GarryB wrote:You guys are missing the obvious... the US subways don't look like the Russian subways not because they can't or wont afford it... it is because rich people don't go anywhere near the subway so it is not actually considered a problem... who cares what working people see going to and from work every day?

    They do obviously but what say do they get in todays America?

    Of course you are right. When I worked on Wall Street, even the low level analysts had company cars to ferry them wherever they wanted to go. Maybe the secretaries rode the subway. I did.

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:28 pm

    That is exactly a 3rd world regime. If the 1% have it all, then the 99% have nothing. Americans for some reason feel
    wealthy because there are some super rich in their country. A perverse vicarious achievement.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:29 am

    Actually... it is a first world thing... for the British it is class... how much money your family has and which school you went to... in the US it is probably just as much race related but also family and money related as well...

    The second world was communism and was supposed to be without a class system, though there were still of course those with power and those without there was not so much the rich and the poor...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:40 am

    Guys, I think everyone is also forgetting another aspect of Russian subways....they're also rated to survive thermonuclear apocalypse! So when someone mentions the Patrician class ignoring or not caring about the common plebs using the subways, that also goes doubly true when you consider why US subways were never rated to be shelters for nuclear war. RAND Corporation never thought it was necessary to protect the American people, and 15-20 million US residents destroyed from megadeath's were considered necessary evils. Yes Dr. Strangelove was in fact based on the real life RAND Corporation. clown  pwnd

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