US-Iran standoff 2019-

Isos wrote:I agree they couldn't finish previous wars on their terms like you say (south vietnam was captured, afghanistan is still full of al quaida, iraq not "occidentalized" but in Iran they just want to destroy its nuclear program. There is no wish of capturing the country or anything else.


China is still too weak attack a coalition of Japanese, south korean and taiwanese army supported by US which are very powerfull, well equiped and very well trained.

Serbia was destroyed. Kosovo taken.

GarryB wrote:

Serbia was destroyed. Kosovo taken.

Yeah, that is nothing like the truth... Kosovo was seized of course, but they didn't "take down" the Serbian air defence network... not even close... it was just as dangerous to NATO aircraft on the last day of the conflict as it was on the first.

It didn't get an enormous number of kills because NATO aircraft kept above its effective ceiling and used a lot of support aircraft... which cost their so called allies on the ground because accuracy was rather less and tractors got mistaken for tanks...

A conflict in the region will block the straight, so a three month conflict actually suits the Iranians... what is America going to say... we are attacking you and bombing you but you are not allowed to attack ships passing by in the persian gulf?

What are they going to do if they do?  Bomb them? Put economic sanctions on them?

America is a bully...

nomadski wrote:
@ siegsoloyov

Iran does not need a long war to win . Only a war extending into 40 to 80 days . Before reserves of many country run dry and they collapse . UK has no reserves . And I doubt , if others will come to help it , in time of crisis . Oil at $ 200 . Business collapses . Iran has enough conventional resources to withstand short or medium or long war . The only scenario not in it's favour , is short war . Where cutting oil becomes ineffective .  Also remember , that once Uranium enriched to 20 percent . It is a matter of weeks before it can easily be enriched to 90 percent . Weapon grade . So in reality , Iran can walk English yank economy through hell  and deter  attack by conventional forces too .


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_strategic_petroleum_reserves

Regular wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

In short, time is on China's side, it's clear as day & night to see who is Rising and who is in Decline.

What we most likely will see is stagnation and maybe common decline of Asian countries. They are all out of steam.

nomadski wrote:@AlfaT8

During Dr. Ahmadenejad time , they said Iran can sustain population of 100 million . Now with 80 million there is not enough water resources.  And children can not go to school , because of local air pollution . Since oil output was cut , the wages of public sector workers reduced or not payed.  Yet there is no collective decision to regulate population according to demands of resistance  economy .

In my view there is for every country an ideal size population . This is determined by available water and local agricultural resources . Local industry outputs and mines . I say local , since export dependency will lead to shortages as a result of ever decreasing world resources and wars and sanctions .

nomadski wrote:I understand . The way I see it , social policy should be such , as to help maintain the actual population to near ideal size population . Such as economic incentives to increase or decrease population . Birth control and terminations of pregnency , as recently permitted and encouraged , for couples who already have one child . Free child care and grants for couples for first child . Marriage law should be such , as to disallow the economic benefit for divorcing couples.  Child custody should be given to men not women . Many things can be done.

An easy way to determine ideal size population , is to work out the amount of local grown food in agriculture . Taking into account variations in rainfall . And attack by diseases or pests . Locusts . If this means reduction in population , then parliament should pass law , after neutral scientific study .

In times when divorced father relinquished custody of child to mother , then child maintenance money should be given to mother , at discretion and by father , directly to mother. Or better still,  in payment by goods for child or food , purchased by father,  and given directly by father to mother or child . This stops economic profiteering  by mothers , out of divorce process . Removes incentives for divorce . Allows children to grow stable .

nomadski wrote:I don't think I am off topic. Since population control is an essential part of resistance economy.
I don't see a reduction in population as national emergency or disaster to be avoided.

As long as there are enough people to form effective fighting force or class of soldiers.
You can have a million standing army with population of 80 or 40 million.

You must not forget that some forms of capitalist economy use overpopulation and as means of increasing competition among working class to reduce wages.  
Liberal policies of importing foreign labour and allowing women into workforce have similar effects.
The capitalists do not pay for the social cost of their production.
The population at large does!

Long term, Iran needs social planning, with or without war with yanks.
But especially if war with yank, As is now.

Mods please leave post here, Message for Javad Zarif.
Very important .