Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

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Experts: the concept of "a new ship in the old hull" did not pay off

February 20, 2020 at 15:05 Theme: Industry

Russian industry has so far failed to promptly carry out repairs and modernization of most large combat surface ships: cruisers, destroyers and BOD. Thus, the concept of “a new ship in the old hull” as applied to them did not materialize. This was told to Mil.Press FlotProm by the interlocutors at the Navy Scientific and Research Center of Naval Forces and the Krylov State Scientific Center.


This was encountered during the modernization of the Project 1164 Marshal Ustinov missile cruiser , and difficulties continue with the Admiral Kuznetsov Project 11435 heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser , as well as the Admiral Nakhimov Project 1144 heavy nuclear-powered cruiser . The modernization of the Peter the Great TARK is actually actually being delayed to the right, and in the case of the RKR Moskva , the shipbuilders have so far limited themselves to repairs (restoration of marching readiness).

Project 956 destroyers could not be maintained in combat readiness (including due to problems with the boiler turbine power plant),Quick "). And the project 1155 BOD will have a large-scale modernization with the reclassification of finished ships to frigates. Its terms traditionally went right: the first five ships were planned to be modernized by 2022. The

average age of the Russian Navy warships exceeded 25 years. The United States has this figure of 20 years , China is 13 years old, said one of the interlocutors of the publication from the former I Institute (now - VSC Navy).

"The large surface ships built in the" golden era "of the USSR Navy have already reached their maximum service lives," he added. "In parallel with maintaining the combat readiness of the old combat units of the fleet, it is necessary to proceed as quickly as possible, finally, to the serial construction of ships in the far sea and ocean zones. For example, project 22350 and 22350M frigates should be built at once in several shipyards, having previously solved the problems with their power plant - with gas turbine engines and gearboxes, and project 20380/20385/20386 corvettes - put in a large series, because these ships are essential for the near sea zone. "

He added that in order to maintain and develop competencies in the design, construction and operation of large ocean-going ships, the creation of the promising destroyer Leader, which is now virtually frozen, should be accelerated . In the event of sufficient seriality, these ships will have to replace Soviet-built missile cruisers, the repair and modernization of which have actually failed. Another option is the creation of a multi-purpose destroyer-class ship with a displacement of about 10-12 thousand tons with a gas turbine power plant. However, the fleet has so far settled on an atomic EM with a displacement of 19 thousand tons.

In turn, the second interlocutor of the publication from the KSCC noted that the modernization of old Soviet cruisers, destroyers and BOD is "a matter of state prestige and the maintenance of at least some large ships of the ocean zone for a while, until the industry was rebuilt to produce a new Russian ocean fleet."
Dmitry Zhavoronkov

By the way also the scope of Peter the Great’s modernization will be reduced and mainly focused on repairing and updating the ship’s main power plant. ...

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We already saw that the modernisation of such ships takes a lot of time and it is very expensive... not just for the large nuclear cruisers, but also for destroyers... sometimes they needed 3/4 years to modernise them... now that they have again the facilities, the engines and the equipment to build new ships they probably should limit large modernization to only where it makes sense (e.g. Udaloy class).
As an example, I fully believe that admiral Kuznetov needs to come back to service, but probably it is not practical and cost effective to modernize all the electronics and missile launchers...

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Here some nice aerial view (video and photos) from Zaliv shipyard in Kerch (Crimea) from 18/02/2020

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3938421.html

In particular, it can be seen is in the completion afloat at the wall of the enterprise patrol ship "Pavel Derzhavin" (serial number 163) of the project 22160, deflated water more February 21, 2019. Also at the outfitting wall is the civilian rescue vessel "Rescuer Ilyin" ( serial number 113) of the MPSV07 project.

The video also shows two Volga cable vessels being built in a dry dock (according to several sources, renamed Sviyaga ) and VyatkaProject 15310 (serial numbers 301 and 302; construction is very slow due to the protracted solution to the issue of import substitution of foreign equipment), the patrol ship Sergey Kotov of project 22160 (serial number 164) and three small ones being built on an open slipway are being built on an open slipway missile ship "Cyclone" and (alleged names) "Askold" and "Amur" project 22800 (serial numbers 801, 802 and 803). Warships and auxiliary ships under construction at Zaliv Shipbuilding Plant LLC. Russian Navy. Kerch, 02/18/2020 (c) footage from the video "Resident of the Hero City" (via vk.

Just for info, these are the two 8000 tons cable ships (140 meters long and 19 meters wide).

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/february-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/5949-construction-of-two-project-15310-cable-ships-for-russian-navy-progressing-well.html


You can see a part of the front of one of the 2 ships here


As you see the back half of the drydock is occupied by these two ships.
If they don't launch them soon it means that while they can still build smaller ship in the front part of the drydock, and of course in the boathouses and open slipways, it will be a problem to start building there the 2 large helicopter carriers (they planned to start the work on May 9th this year,  I believe)....

By the way, the Navy needs additional cable laying ships (4 more in addition to the 2 being built in Zaliv (which have delays due to import substitution).


https://flotprom.ru/2020/%D0%92%D0%BC%D1%8424/

Navy needed marine cable vessels

February 21, 2020 at 11:50 Theme: Industry

The Russian Navy is in need of a series of new cable-type ships of the sea type in addition to the ocean-based CS of project 15310 Sviyaga and Vyatka. This Mil.Press FlotProm reported two sources, industry and navy.



New vessels are needed, including for the laying of trunk lighting systems for underwater situations.



The fleet's demand for marine CS is six units: two each for the Northern and Pacific fleets and one for the Baltic and Black Sea.

Two cable vessels of the ocean class of project 15310 will go to the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet. Now their construction on the Gulf of Kerch is being delayed due to non-delivery of a number of cable equipment due to sanctions. The delivery of the vessels was planned for 2021-2022.


Another source said that one of the design bureaus has already begun relevant studies. At the same time, he added, when creating marine CSs, they will adhere to the principle of maximum import substitution, for which a number of experimental design work is being carried out.

Among the related OCDs are Boom 3 and Cable.

In addition, it is planned to modernize existing marine cable vessels.

In March 2019, it became known that the MGK-608M stationary fixed underwater lighting complex for the Northern Fleet, damaged in 2016, was never restored . One of the reasons industry interlocutors called the lack of cable vessels.

Dmitry Zhavoronkov

Creation of a control center for shipbuilding, modernization and repair of the Russian Navy

As reported on March 11, 2020, RIA Novosti news agency, the Center for Management of Shipbuilding, Modernization and Repair of Ships and Vessels of the Russian Navy will be formed under the High Command of the Russian Navy, said Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Alexey Krivoruchko.

"At present, a center for the management and control of the design, construction, modernization and repair of ships and ships of the Navy is being formed, which will improve the procedure for the creation, serial construction, modernization and repair of ships and ships of the Navy, and prevent the growth of cost and increase the terms of fulfillment of state contracts, and also increase the personal responsibility of officials, "Krivoruchko said following a meeting at the Navy’s commander’s office.

According to the deputy minister, the center will also be engaged in optimizing the types of ships and vessels, the composition of their armaments, and improving the integrated combat control system of fleet ships.
"Currently, additional training is being conducted on pricing, financial control, audit and project management," Krivoruchko said.

He recalled that the center was created in accordance with the order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu to address systemic issues in military shipbuilding.

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The enterprise is punished for the successful repair of nuclear submarine assemblies without a license

According to the newspaper Kommersant, in the article by Nikolai Sergeyev, “Repair of four submarines is recognized as null and void.

Zvezdochka and its former general director should return the entire cost of the contract to the state, ”the military prosecutor’s office recovered money from an enterprise that repaired the units of four nuclear submarines (NPS) of the Northern Fleet, without special licenses. The head of the company received a sentence for illegal entrepreneurship in the field of state defense orders. It is interesting that the customer in the person of the Ministry of Defense had no complaints about the quality of work.

The lawsuit of the military prosecutor's office against Zvyozdochka Special Industrial and Technical Base JSC and its former leader Konstantin Khryukin were granted by the Polar District Court of the Murmansk Region located in the city of Gadzhievo. The reason for the civil proceedings was the criminal process that took place in the same court.

As the investigating authorities and then the court established, Mr. Khryukin headed JSC SPTB Zvezdochka from January 2013 to January 2016. According to the charter of the company, it was entitled to engage in “any kind of activity not prohibited by the current legislation of the Russian Federation”, while it did not have some special licenses.

Meanwhile, on February 18, 2014, between the Ministry of Defense and the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center OJSC (Zvezdochka CS), a state contract was signed for serial maintenance and repair of ships and vessels of the Northern Fleet for the period 2014-2016. As a co-executor of the contracts, Zvyozdochka CS brought in Zvezdochka SPTB.

In 2014–2015, the last company performed work at the electric compressor stations of the Panther nuclear submarine worth 7.4 million rubles, the Volk nuclear submarine - 2.5 million rubles, the Voronezh nuclear submarine - 340 thousand rubles., Nuclear submarine "Cheetah" - 2 million rubles. and so on. for which the general contractor transferred to him a total of 14.4 million rubles. Moreover, the specialists of SPTB Zvyozdochka worked in places of permanent deployment of nuclear submarines in the cities of Gadzhievo and Zaozersk.

When it turned out that the work was carried out without a license, Konstantin Khryukin was charged with committing a crime under subsection “b” of part 2 of art. 171 (illegal business associated with the extraction of income in a particularly large amount) of the Criminal Code.

The Polar District Court has appointed the former general director of SPTB Zvyozdochka a year and a half of a settlement colony. However, given that the entrepreneur was previously convicted under Part 1 of Art. 201 of the Criminal Code for abuse of power, also committed in the repair of vessels of the Northern Fleet, the term was increased to two and a half years of settlement.

Turning to the court, the military prosecutor’s office indicated that Mr. Khryukin had deliberately made a deal with a goal “obviously contrary to the foundations of law and order and morality,” which also affected the interests of the country's defense and security. The supervision demanded that the transaction be recognized as null and void, and the income from it should be turned into the income of the treasury of the Russian Federation.

The representative of the convict Khryukin did not agree with the prosecutor’s lawsuit, believing that the stated claims were unfounded. According to him, there are no grounds for satisfying the application, since all the work was done efficiently and on time. The representative of JSC SPTB Zvyozdochka also noted that no claims of the state customer were addressed to this enterprise or to the Zvyozdochka CA. “The result of the work performed is currently being used by the RF Ministry of Defense,” he added.

The court decided that SPTB Zvyozdochka JSC had performed works whose necessary quality was not and could not be adequately ensured due to the company’s lack of a license to repair armaments and military equipment in the corresponding class.

Noting that Mr Khryukin’s “dishonesty and wrongfulness of actions” was established by a verdict that entered into force, and the transaction was void, the court collected 14,407,930 rubles from the former general director of SPTB Zvyozdochka JSC and the enterprise itself, as well as a state duty.

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Kommersant. ´nuff said.

14.4M rubles for repairs to 4x nuclear subs?

That's less than USD200k. WTF kind of repairs can you do for such comparative chicken feed sums? Even if you ignore the FOREX rate nonsense, its not a lot of money.

Sounds to me that there is a dispute about specialist services that have been billed but the appropriate service either wasn't carried out, or was done to a sub-standard degree by unqualified technicians?

Big_Gazza wrote:14.4M rubles for repairs to 4x nuclear subs?  

That's less than USD200k.  WTF kind of repairs can you do for such comparative chicken feed sums? Even if you ignore the FOREX rate nonsense, its not a lot of money.  

Sounds to me that there is a dispute about specialist services that have been billed but the appropriate service either wasn't carried out, or was done to a sub-standard degree by unqualified technicians?

I think the case here is about small subcontractor that given western inclination towards sabotage needs to be checked properly which wasnt. Nothing serious here.

Well I am not sure how to read all of this, but i remember that last year or the one before the director of said shipyard said that the overhaul and modernisation of the submarines with titanium hull of the project 945 (barracuda) was not worth and it was too expensive, even if they accepted a contract to modernize them. He said that the money would better be spent on a modernisation of project 971.
The issue is that the shipyard knew new perfectly that they did not possess the technology to work with titanium hulls when they accepted the work and then they tried to weasel out without penalties.

I believe those subs the 2 of 945 and the 2 of 945M have characteristics qnd upgrade potential not met by other subs, also thanks to their hulls.

The shipyard that built them was Krasnoe sormovo in Nizhny Novgorod, maybe they still possess the capability tonwork with titanium...

Penzadizelmash is starting production of marine diesel engines

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PapaDragon wrote:
Penzadizelmash is starting production of marine diesel engines

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3959625.html

Interesting, and important.

unfortunately from the article is not clear what type engines (e.g medium speed, high speed, etc), if they are derivative of their trains diesel engine or something different, and what size and power and for what applicatione these engines will be...

As an example it would be already good if they could help producing the same engines as Zvezda, since they cannot meet the production targets.

On the other hand there are apparently quite a lot smaller boats that use foreign engines that would need replacements... not to talk about the civilian sector...

Pella plant fined for delays in the delivery of the lead small missile ship of project 22800

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George1 wrote:Pella plant fined for delays in the delivery of the lead small missile ship of project 22800

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And that's despite the fact that delay was caused solely by Zvezda not delivering engines on time

What a shitshow, Pella should just stick with civilian shipbuilding and let the Navy drown in their own piss

PapaDragon wrote:

George1 wrote:Pella plant fined for delays in the delivery of the lead small missile ship of project 22800

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3961989.html

And that's despite the fact that delay was caused solely by Zvezda not delivering engines on time

What a shitshow, Pella should just stick with civilian shipbuilding and let the Navy drown in their own piss

It is actually a strange situation. Maybe the government has decided now to be more strict with every contractor... they are also in litigation with Zvezdochka for apparently repair of nuclear submarines without licences...

As far as Pella... well.. maybe the government was also pissed off by the fact that they are building an importantdiesel icebreaker in a German shipyard (a contract that could have gone otherwise to Vyborg, Admiralty shipyard or to Zaliv).

In addition maybe there were some gray spots in pella's management of More shipyard in Feodosia (Crimea).

Pella is responsible to deliver the ship, if they can´t do it because some supplier can´t deliver stuff then they have to sue him to get the money back.

https://flotprom.ru/2020/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B085/

Stop machine: the production of diesel engines for the Navy at two plants is disrupted

The situation with the supply of engines for a series of small missile ships of project 22800 cannot be stabilized in the years 2021-2022, contrary to the agreements of the Ministry of Defense and industrialists on correcting the situation . As a result, already repeatedly pluckedthe deadlines for the delivery of RTOs will be disrupted again, Mil.Press FlotProm sources in KB, shipyards and diesel plants are convinced. The shipbuilding program and the implementation of the state defense order are at stake. One of the reasons is the slow transfer of documentation for engines of Zvezda PJSC to the 51st Central Design and Technology Institute of Ship Repair (CKTIS) and the Kingisepp Machine-Building Plant. This is one of the stages of organizing the mass production of diesel engines at KMZ, which was officially agreed by all interested parties back in 2018. However, in the end, two diesel plants were in court.

They should just switch to that larger model with gas turbine, this diesel thing is a no go

People should keep in mind that a modern marine diesel engine is a complex thing that is not easy to master... the faulty models from China show it is not just a case of reproducing the components assembling it and making it work...

GarryB wrote:People should keep in mind that a modern marine diesel engine is a complex thing that is not easy to master... the faulty models from China show it is not just a case of reproducing the components assembling it and making it work...

Yes, and unfortunately russian diesel engine industry has been neglected for too long. A few years ago there were plans to do a sort of unified organisation pursuising national strategy for the field of diesel propulsion, but they were ignored and or not implemented.

Marine diesel propulsion is also fundamental for civil (commercial and passenger transport) fleet, even if we talk about different engines.

Maybe this is the occasion to change the approach and doing something similar to what has been done for the aeronautical industry, that is a first phase of crisis management and implementing short term corrections, e.g. fixing production of current engines, and parallelly planning for local diesel engine to replace all the foreign imports even in the commercial market...

The thing is that not many countries have the money or the need to make it themselves, so once Russia gets it right and is making quality engines it will be able to sell to all sorts of countries around the world.

There will be a demand for new models...

Swiped this off other forum, Zvezda shipyard construction progress:

United Shipbuilding Corporation headquarters will be transferred from Moscow to St. Petersburg

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4029889.html

New surveys of the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch

Another interesting video filmed on May 27, 2020 from a multicopter of the territory of Shipbuilding Yard Zaliv LLC in Kerch in the Crimea (previously similar surveys were located on April 29, 2019, January 4, 2020 and February 18, 2020). Russian ships and auxiliary vessels.


Helipad built on the territory of Shipbuilding Plant Zaliv LLC. Kerch, 05/27/2020 (c)

On the video, you can also see two cable vessels “Volga” that are still under construction in the dry dock (according to a number of sources, renamed “Sviyaga”) and “Vyatka” of project 15310 (serial numbers 301 and 302; the construction is very slow due to the protracted solution to the issue of import substitution of foreign equipment), the patrol ship Sergey Kotov of project 22160 (serial number 164) and three small missile ships Cyclone and (tentative names) being built on an open slipway ) Askold and Cupid project 22800 (serial numbers 801, 802 and 803).

Of the curious, it is worth noting the preparations being carried out at the plant for the visit of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin - on the territory of the enterprise a helipad was made for three helicopters at once and new asphalt was laid. V.V. Putin should welcome to the Zaliv factory for the long-awaited ceremony of laying two project 23900 universal landing ships.



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New competition for the reconstruction of the North Shipyard

According to the publication dp.ru , Severnaya Verf Shipyard PJSC announced a tender for the first stage of the construction of a modern shipbuilding complex on the territory of the enterprise. The initial (maximum) contract price is 7.8 billion rubles. They must be mastered in 2020–2021. The tender documentation is subject to state secrets.Design of the reconstructed shipbuilding complex of PAO "Shipyard" Severnaya Verf "(c) of PJSC" Shipyard "Severnaya Verf"

The competition with the same name and initial price of 6.3 billion rubles was held by Severnaya Verf in 2017. It was won by Metrostroy OJSC. The contract was concluded for 6 billion rubles. Then it was reported that we were talking about the construction of a new slipway and boathouse, which would allow the Northern Shipyard to build large-capacity vessels and ships. It was planned that the work will be completed in the first quarter of 2019.

But in October 2019, the contract with Metrostroy was terminated. The head of the USC, which includes Severnaya Verf, Aleksey Rakhmanov explained that a number of errors were made in the design documentation. This, in particular, explained the need to increase the cost of the project.

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A bunch of pics from Zvezda (June 2020) - http://dcss.ru/upload/iblock/585/%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%82%2006.2020.pdf.

Construction of a dry dock is completed ahead of schedule at SSK Zvezda

As reported on September 4, 2020 by OOO Shipbuilding Complex Zvezda (SSK Zvezda, Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Territory), the company is completing the construction of a dry dock, one of the largest in the world. Commissioning works are underway. A unique hydraulic structure measuring 485 by 114 meters and a depth of 14 meters provides unlimited opportunities for the construction of ships of any size and complexity. The dry dock will be commissioned four years earlier than originally scheduled. Construction dry dock of the Zvezda shipyard at the final stage of construction work. Bolshoi Kamen (Primorsky Territory), September 2020 (c) SSK "Zvezda"

At the moment, Zvezda's specialists, in cooperation with Rostekhnadzor and State Expertise, are checking the dry dock and equipment of the facility to ensure that the machines and mechanisms are ready for operation. Previously, in order to control the filtration of the hydraulic structure in the normal mode, work was carried out to fill the dry dock with water. The floating shutter batoport was brought in and installed on the workplace. It separates the dock chamber from the water area, the bottom of which is located below the water level. A technological gate was delivered to the dock, which will allow dividing the dock area into separate independent compartments for the construction of several ships at once. 4 tower cranes with a lifting capacity of 60 tons and a Goliath gantry crane with a lifting capacity of 1200 tons were installed. Commissioning works are in progress.

The Zvezda shipbuilding complex is being created in the Far East by a consortium of investors led by Rosneft on behalf of President Vladimir Putin. At SSK "Zvezda" the following have already been put into operation: a block of hull production, painting booths, an open heavy outfitting slipway with a fleet of unique cranes and an advanced ship-transport system, a transport and transfer dock. The constructed workshops made it possible, without waiting for the completion of work on the construction of the shipyard, to start building ships. Construction dry dock of the Zvezda shipyard at the final stage of construction work. Bolshoi Kamen (Primorsky Territory), September 2020 (c) SSK "Zvezda"





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