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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:56 am

    17.11.2022 (The information is already over 10 days old, but no one has seen this news, so I decided to pass it on here).
    TASS

    The Yantar plant will soon start building a new floating dock
    This will make it possible to fully use the capabilities of the enterprise and build ships with a displacement of up to 12 thousand tons.

    MOSCOW, 17 November. /TASS/. The Baltic Shipyard (PSZ) "Yantar" plans to start building a floating dock in the near future for the construction of ships with a displacement of up to 12,000 tons. This was announced to TASS by the general director of PSZ (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, USC) Ilya Samarin.

    "This year, thanks to the support of the Ministry of Industry and Trade and USC, the issue of the construction of a new dock has been finally resolved. The corresponding resolution has been signed," he said.

    "In addition, PSZ expects to build a hull-processing workshop, which will be located near the slipway building. This will reduce transportation and procurement costs and increase the tonnage of processed metal," the head of the plant added.

    According to Samarin, as part of the modernization of production facilities, the acquisition and installation of modern machine tools will be fully completed in the first half of next year.

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/16351721

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    Post  lancelot Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:16 am

    This shipyard is kinda problematic being in Kaliningrad and everything. Given the current NATO confrontation it is probably not a good idea to rely on it too much. But it is not like Russia has a lot of decent alternatives. 12,000 tons is enough to make cruisers.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:22 am

    There is nothing problematic in Kaliningrad. It is a territory of the Russian Federation and will stay this way.
    "Problematic" would mean a full scale war.
    Who is going to carry one?

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:55 am

     lancelot Today at 8:16 am

    What is there to be problematic ?
    Should that mean that the Russians are moving from the Kaliningrad region ?
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    Post  Arrow Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:53 am

    he Yantar plant will soon start building a new floating dock wrote:

    We see a great development of the shipbuilding industry in Russia. Severnaya Verf is being expanded, now Yantar, and Zaliv is also being modernized. Construction of a new super shipyard the size of Zviezda near St. Petersburg. It makes an impression Very Happy

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:26 am

    Well the clear situation is that Russia is going to have to become more of a maritime nation if it wants access to its world wide partners in trade.

    All their shipyards should be expanded where possible and upgraded and improved with all the latest technology they can manage for themselves... they should make it themselves... and the best way to improve things is to make it and put it everywhere so workers are familiar with the equipment no matter where they work.

    There are going to be lots of boats tiny to enormous, so there should be plenty of work, but yards that are the big important yards should be producing Frigates and Corvettes right now with a view that in 8 to 10 years they will be making destroyers and cruisers for the navy.

    The pieces will be getting bigger... the sonar systems and radar and EO equipment and ESM suite, plus the guns, and of course the number of missiles carried...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:41 am

    BMPD; December 9th, 8:41 pm

    The largest floating dock arrived in Russia


    According to the Federal Agency for Marine and River Transport of Russia (Rosmorrechflot), a new floating dock PD-100 with a carrying capacity of 100 thousand tons has arrived in Russia from the construction site in Qingdao (China), which will become the largest floating dock in Russia. On December 8, 2022, the dock was towed to Vladivostok for clearance, and on December 9, the floating dock PD-100 arrived at its destination in the waters of Chazhma Bay, Strelok Bay, Peter the Great Bay, where with the help of six tugboats it will be installed in its regular place.
    The dock was installed at JSC 30 Ship Repair Plant, where, as part of the plant’s modernization program, a modern production facility is being created to perform outfitting work and service (warranty) repairs of civilian ships as part of inter-factory cooperation with the Zvezda shipbuilding complex.

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    Towed to Vladivostok, a new floating dock PD-100 with a carrying capacity of 100 thousand tons, built in China in the interests of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex (Bolshoy Kamen), 08.12.2022 (с) Federal Agency for Maritime and River Transport of Russia



    The PD-100 dock is to be operated in the interests of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex (Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Krai) and was built in Qingdao at the Qingdao Beihai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Company (BSIC), which is part of the Chinese state shipbuilding corporation China State Shipbuilding Corporation ( CSSC).

    Specifications PD-100:

    the greatest length is 351.4 m;
    maximum width - 95.5 m;
    height from the bottom to the top deck - 30.5 m;
    displacement during transport draft - 92.6 thousand tons.

    Recall that earlier, in July 2018, the Zvezda shipbuilding complex received the Vympel transport and transfer floating dock with a carrying capacity of 40,000 tons, also built in Qingdao at the Qingdao Beihai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Company (BSIC). Also in the interests of SSK Zvezda, a large floating dock PD-41 with a carrying capacity of 80 thousand tons, located in Chazhma Bay, built in 1978 in Japan, is used.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4626319.html

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:31 am

    Better pic of the PD-100 Very Happy

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    Post  mnztr Sun Dec 25, 2022 1:01 am

    https://tass.com/russia/1555555

    wow big news!! RIP.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:32 am

    Not that I like... thanks for sharing... RIP.
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    Post  mnztr Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:32 pm

    I don't pretend to understand what the impact would be, but certainly he had to be quite a key figure in organizing naval production.
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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:21 pm

    There are 20 guys to replace him. Minimum.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:46 pm

    Plans are long term and changing plans are not simple or quick... most things are like aircraft engines and require half a decade to a decade of development before you can even think about putting them into production so a lot of prediction is needed to work out what you might want and what it might be up against in 10 or 20 years time, because it is not just about laying down and starting to build ships... you need places to operate them from, you need resources to keep them supplied and operational... one big shipyard is not good enough when all the commercial shipping is huge cargo ships and huge tankers and oilers that will need support and maintenance too, while destroyers and cruisers and aircraft carrier don't just need to be built, you need crews and missiles and aircraft etc etc and support ships to meet them half way round the world to keep them useful 24/7.

    This guy seems to have done a good job but I would guess it is a team that makes sure everything works and happens that needs to happen and as long as they put someone who is competent things should not change too much... except the split between west and Russia will mean many programmes will need to accelerate which means more funding but also more attention, so that is probably a good thing.

    They have been working all this time to adopt new ship building techniques and technology... they bought some from South Korea and also got some experience of French methods with the halves of the Mistral ships they built too, and spreading that production practise to as many shipyards as quickly as they can will boost their potential, but their new ship designs are modular and are designed to allow more bits to be added or changed so in theory they should be easier to design and build in serial production in a way they have never done before.

    Previous ships were all single purpose with backup self defence capacity except for cruisers which were big enough to have a variety of weapon types to perform a range of different missions.

    These days their Corvettes can have multirole launchers (UKSK) that include anti ship, anti air, anti sub, and even land attack which previous conventionally armed ships and subs were incapable of performing... and armed with 100mm guns normally carried by their destroyers.

    Their new Frigates have 130mm guns previously used on destroyers and cruisers...

    Their navy has traditionally been the poor cousin with a lack of funding and support, but now it is going to be probably the most useful because it will ensure Russian access to international trade partners via new sea lanes of communication and trade.
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    Post  Krepost Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:38 am

    Finally some news from Kerch Shipyard:

    Both Cable layers for the Navy, VOLGA and SVYUGA are now painted and being fitted.

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    Post  wilhelm Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:35 pm

    Any further news on the 23900 helicopter carriers Rogov and Moskalenko laid down in July 2020 at Zaliv?
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    Post  Krepost Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:04 am

    Updates from Zaliv shipyard in Kerch:

    CORRECTION regarding my previous post:

    The second cabke layer's name is VYATKA (not SVYUGA).

    In this video:

    Both cable layers VOLGA and VYATKA are visible (they are painted and being fitted)
    Also the ferry PETROPAVLOVSK is seen being towed (also painted and being fitted)

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:31 pm

    I am curious to know as well if, after finishing the two frigates for India, Yantar will also receive orders for 22350 frigates. Apparently in addition to Severnaya Verf, also Amur shipbuilding plant is going to get a contract for them in the future, but Yantar is one of the shipyards with recent experience on building frigates.

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    Post  lancelot Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:33 pm

    If Amur builds them they would need to redesign the ships since they would not fit their shipyard infrastructure I think. Project 22350 is just too big. Which is why I think they should just focus on Project 20380. The notion you build ships for the Pacific Fleet in the Pacific and ships for the Atlantic in the Atlantic side is kind of bonkers for large ships. Just make the shipyards focus on specific ship types so the construction is optimized and they reduce time to deliver these ships. Until the state makes large orders on a specific shipyard you won't see the construction times on that type go down.

    Best thing the Navy did was to double the Borei-A order, instead of replacing it with Borei-B as originally planned. This cut costs down on the following ships and meant there was no large gap in deliveries.

    The large ships can be moved in between fleets. I do agree that there needs to be a second shipyard building the Project 22350 though. Requirements are just too large for a single shipyard.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:30 pm

    It is a matter of elementary risk management in a time of military confrontation with NATO to have at least two shipyards, at best geographically distant and fed by as different as possible supply chains, available to build every type of ship, the industry just needs to be scaled up back to where it was and should be, if it was not because of the mighty 90's. The VMF needs to have a resource basis capable of delivering vessels up to the size of a destroyer from multiple suppliers and in a cycle not too far away from what the PLAN has, that needs to be the goal. And there needs to be at least a couple or three shipyards where nuclear powered ships can be manufactured, too. That means that VMF needs all the main shipyards upgraded significantly before the current decade ends.

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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:47 pm

    A war with nato that involves Nato bombing shipyards isn't gonna happen. Nuks would be flying way before.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:09 am

    Sabotage in Russian MIC is a real threat right now if they get half a chance...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:43 pm

    Flot.com

    The Crimean shipyard "More" is being modernized for the production of ships and vessels from steel

    January 20, 2023 at 8:54 Subject: Industry

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    The Feodosia shipbuilding plant "More" plans to modernize ship-lifting capacities to enable launching ships and vessels over 80 meters in length and with a displacement of over 1,000 tons. It is reported by Korabel.ru with reference to the Acting Minister of Industrial Policy of the Republic of Crimea Elena Elekchan.

    According to her, after the modernization, the enterprise will be able to start building fishing vessels and resume the assembly of high-speed passenger ships. As Elekchan noted, now the main funds are being invested in the development of a modernization plan.

    Anton Korzun, Deputy General Director of the shipyard, said that an additional 45 specialists were hired in November for the current work on the implementation of existing orders.

    "We plan to additionally attract both engineers and technologists who will participate in the design of various vessels and ships," Korzun added.


    Now "More" produces ships for military and civil purposes from aluminum alloys and composite materials. The modernization will allow the production of steel products to begin. This will expand the list of orders and employ 600 people.

    The "More" plant, built in the late 1930s, specialized in high-speed aluminum alloy ships, hydrofoils and hovercraft in Soviet times. The most famous military product is the world's largest landing hovercraft project 12322 Zubr. The shipyard also built civilian ships, including pleasure "Comets".

    After the annexation of Crimea in 2014, the enterprise was nationalized by the authorities of the peninsula. Then, in 2015, they were transferred to the ownership of the Russian Federation, and 1 billion rubles were contributed from the federal budget to the capital. Since 2016, the shipyard's facilities have been transferred to the management of the Pella plant, which used them to fulfill an order for project 22800 Karakurt small rocket ships.

    In 2018, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on the transfer of the shipyard to the state corporation Rostec, whose representatives then said that the plant was underloaded and needed serious modernization. In 2020, the Accounts Chamber noted that due to sanctions, the construction of a boat to clean up oil spills was never completed, since it was not possible to purchase engine parts.
    At the same time, "More" declared its readiness to build pleasure high-speed motor ships Kometa and fishing trawlers for Cuba, and also concluded an agreement with the Black Sea Fishing Company for the construction of ten trawlers for fishing in the Azov-Black Sea basin.

    In March 2022, Rostec transferred the More shipyard to the United Shipbuilding Corporation free of charge.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:16 am

    February 5th, 21:30

    About the new boathouse at Severnaya Verf

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    The degree of readiness of the new SV boathouse on a satellite image from Google Earth from 08/23/2022


    Until the recent announcement of the planned conclusion of a state contract for the construction of six frigates pr. 22350 and 22350M, in which the Amur shipyard appears, all hopes regarding the start of the renewal of the ocean multipurpose surface forces of the Russian Navy were associated with the new boathouse under construction at Severnaya Verf (St. Petersburg) , where immediately after the completion of the work they were supposed to lay the lead FR pr. 22350M (the incorrect classification and index of the project was mentioned in one of the previous entries.
    However, there is still no complete clarity as to exactly how many units of 22350M the contract will be signed, and whether the Amur Plant will start building ocean-going ships immediately or whether it will first need to master the construction of DMZ (22350) frigates, which is more logical. But one way or another, the situation cannot be called satisfactory when the most important shipbuilding facility for the naval and economic power of the country is being built in such a strange and absurd way.
    It is difficult to say what is more here - the incompetence of officials, the corruption component, or banal bad luck, which are expressed in the termination of two state contracts with the general contractors who built the boathouse, and the conclusion of a third, which raises questions.

    You can write a novel about the ups and downs of the construction of an object of interest to us or make a movie in the genre of adventurous drama. The first contract was concluded by the General Director of SV I. Ponomarev with the St. Petersburg Metrostroy five years ago (December 29, 2017) and assumed the completion of work in the 1st quarter. 2019 , that is, a huge two-span boathouse with dimensions of 250x140x75 m (apparently external) with all the necessary crane and transmission equipment, as well as with production sites for slipway, outfitting and mechanical assembly production, it was planned to build in just one year and three months, a timeframe as optimistic as it is unrealistic.
    It is curious that the tender with the participation of 4 companies took place only on the third attempt - the first failed due to lack of funds (!), the second was canceled by the Federal Antimonopoly Service due to the wrong approach to choosing a contractor. In March 2019, the contract was terminated due to missed deadlines (only 27% of the estimate was used - 2 billion rubles out of 7.4 and financial problems of Metrostroy. The situation was aggravated by technical and economic mistakes made by the non-core design bureau ViPS, which was entrusted against any rules with the development of the boathouse project (*).

    (*) KB ViPS (Design Bureau of High-rise and Underground Structures), which had no experience in designing shipyards, according to the terms of reference, was to develop (and probably developed) working documentation in some two months, and TSTSS (Center for Shipbuilding and Ship Repair Technology) , who designed most of the existing shipbuilding facilities, was left out of work. In modern domestic shipbuilding, there is a bad tendency to replace professionals with amateurs.
    The USC is headed by a former financier-auditor, an official from the automotive industry and farming, the Nevskoye Design Bureau is an engineer-economist and a recent chief accountant, the UDC is designing a low-tonnage and not at all aircraft carrier Zelenodolsk Design Bureau, which was crushed under his Ak Bars by an energetic, but infinitely far from the fleet merchant Mistakhov (the analogy of the boathouse SV and UDC pr. 23900 as one of the future symbols of the Russian Navy is especially alarming).

    In September 2020 (a year and a half was being redesigned with sluggish work in certain areas), instead of the unjustified trust of Metrostroy, the new general director SV I. Orlov signed a contract with the company Domestic Systems and Technologies (OST), which, like its predecessor, never built shipbuilding slipways. According to Orlov, more than 10 enterprises participated in the tender, the OST says that only they submitted an application in the course of further tender procedures. Completion was planned for the end of 2021 with a possible shift to 2022, however, this contract was also terminated in January 2022 . There is information that this time the estimate is 7.8 billion rubles. was disbursed for 1 billion (13%). The third act of this bad spectacle began on December 21, 2022, when, as a result of a competition with one participant, Severnaya Verf signed an agreement with the RusGard Production Company (Rostov-on-Don) with a completion date of March 2024.
    PC "RusGard" has a quite decent website, but two points cause concern: firstly, the last message in the "News" section is dated 01/14/2019; 2); secondly (and most importantly), the menu includes the supply, installation and maintenance of gas turbine units; production of industrial filters; production, installation and maintenance of equipment for electric power facilities, but there is not a word about building competencies .

    Let's digress a little from the difficult relations of the SV (and USC) with contractors in order to assess the importance of the new boathouse for the country's defense capability and economy. A satellite image from Google Earth dated 08/23/2022 confirms the external length and width of the object, which were announced in the press (250x140 m) and gives the clear width of two uneven spans of approximately 69 and 55 m (according to available data, spans of overhead cranes should be 68/70 .5 and 54/56.5 m. It is well known that initially it was planned to build destroyer (cruiser) pr. 23560 in the boathouse with Dtotal, according to various sources, 14000-19000 tons. Most likely, the width of the larger span was chosen for the consideration of the simultaneous construction of two ships of this project in it (according to the author's estimates, for Dtotal 16500-19000 tons, Lnb and Bnb will be about 210-220 and 26.0-27.0 m).
    Of course, in a 69-meter span, two frigates (destroyer) pr. 22350M ). At the same time, a narrow span is ideal for an Aframax type tanker with average Lnb and Vnb values ​​of 243 and 42 m (for Aframax 114K project, being built in Zvezda SSC, 250 and 44 m . Since tankers and BNK of the ocean zone will be vital for Russia in the new world order after the completion of the SMO, the new boathouse of the Severnaya Werf is an object of particular importance.

    In a 30% finished slipway (building slab and part of the columns), it is necessary to: 1) complete the erection of the columns; 2) install ceilings; 3) complete the cladding of the building; 4) build an administrative building; 5) purchase the machine, crane [and transmission] equipment provided for in the contract . Will PC "RusGuard" cope with this? As far as can be judged from the materials of the official website, the company is now in serious trouble.
    As far as can be judged from the materials of the official website, the company is now in serious trouble. It purchased and installed Western equipment (Siemens, General Electric, etc.) and produced filters using Western technologies. All this is now impossible or severely limited. Thus, the contract with SV for RusGuard is something like a lifeline. This is evidenced by the absence of other applicants in the competition. Most likely, this is due to the not very attractive terms of the contract, but they did not bother the drowning man.

    According to the author, there may be two scenarios. In the first case, the management of the general contractor will treat the matter of national importance responsibly, hire an equally responsible subcontractor or subcontractors with rich experience in construction work and agree with the proposed price, be able to find a supplier and purchase the necessary equipment, without which the boathouse turns into an "expensive barn" , and hand over the object at the appointed time.
    In the second, the story with Metrostroy and OST will be repeated, after which, with a high probability, Rakhmanov will lose his position (the third puncture on this topic), he will get hit in the neck, but Orlov will remain (despite the second puncture plus the fire on Provorny, plus not a single order delivered in 2022, he will have the delivered "Golovko", "Mercury" and a couple of fishing vessels in his assets), the President will take personal control of the case with the involvement of all available resources, and with a delay of another year and a half (in 2025) two 22350M and one Aframax will be laid in the new SV boathouse.

    A year and a half in naval construction does not mean much, but, of course, I would like to see three FR (EM) pr. 22350M) - two at Severnaya Verf and one (plus one 22350) at Amur Shipyard.


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    Post  Arrow Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:26 am

    A year and a half in naval construction does not mean much, but, of course, I would like to see three FR (EM) pr. 22350M) - two at Severnaya Verf and one (plus one 22350) at Amur Shipyard. wrote:

    So Podlodka, do you think that the keel for the first 22350M class ship will be in 2025? Will they disappear faster? If Amur can handle the production of frigates 22350 together with Severney, it should go faster.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:40 am

    Arrow Today at 9:26 am

    So Podlodka, do you think that the keel for the first 22350M class ship will be in 2025? Will they disappear faster? If Amur can handle the production of frigates 22350 together with Severney, it should go faster.



    Trust me, I don't know what to think.
    And from the picture itself, you can see that the new boathouse is not even close to being finished.
    Therefore, I think that in the best case we can hope that the first ship of the project 22350M will start to be built in 2024. In addition to all that, it should be added that a contract was signed at "Army-2020" for 2 more project 22350 frigates, the construction of which has not yet started.

    I am not even sure that the construction of project 22350 frigates will be started in the Amur Shipyard this year ((probably the same next year too), because that shipyard laid the keels for 5 new corvettes from 23.08.2021 - 2 corvettes of project 20380 and 3 corvettes of project 20385 + according to the contract, they should lay the keel for one more corvette of project 20385.
    What we can hope for are new contracts, while I'm not sure about the start of the construction of new frigates in this year, EXCEPT maybe to lay the keels for the two project 22350 frigates for which the contract was signed on "Army-2020" - if there is room for that in the boathouse in Severnaya Werf.

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