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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:08 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:...Putin total silence of western terrorism on its own citizens...

    Why the fück should Putin do anything to help western citizens?

    They are the enemy, he should be assisting their governments in terrorizing them even harder

    How butt fucking stupid are you?  



    It's Vann, enough said

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:55 am

    Mir wrote:When Sputnik V was the first vaccine the West tried it's level best to discredit it.

    When they couldn't discredit it based on facts, they simply resorted to political attacks and deliberate delays in the regulatory and administrative areas. The feckless b'stards simply raised the bar for Russian (and Chinese vaccines) and maintained the artificial barriers until Western competitors could roll out their products and fully capture the lucrative Western market. One would be hard pressed to find a more blatant example of corporate private wealth concerns (ie lust for self-enrichment) driving Western public health policy and institutions (while Eurotrash regime sock puppets publicly denied that any such corrupt practices could exist in the Exceptionalist West).

    The only thing the West managed to truly discredit was themselves. Razz

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    Post  Erk Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:24 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Mir wrote:When Sputnik V was the first vaccine the West tried it's level best to discredit it.

    When they couldn't discredit it based on facts, they simply resorted to political attacks and deliberate delays in the regulatory and administrative areas. The feckless b'stards simply raised the bar for Russian (and Chinese vaccines) and maintained the artificial barriers until Western competitors could roll out their products and fully capture the lucrative Western market.  One would be hard pressed to find a more blatant example of corporate private wealth concerns (ie lust for self-enrichment) driving Western public health policy and institutions (while Eurotrash regime sock puppets publicly denied that any such corrupt practices could exist in the Exceptionalist West).

    The only thing the West managed to truly discredit was themselves. Razz

    What's more, Moscow had a poor update of vaccines, helped by the western propaganda against Sputnik V, and this resulted in thousands of avoidable deaths. Probably more than the shelling of Donbass for 8 years.
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:04 pm

    Take a loot at this dear Russians in the forums.

    Your President continues being Putin . He  now is attempting to influence the west , with Sports again ,
    in time the west is leading a war in Ukraine against Russian army ,and a sanctions war world wide , for the the total destruction of Russia . When the west cut the balls of their Russian soldiers in Ukraine and bomb Russian cities ,sink Russian destroyers, The "genius" President think that now , after he failed to influence the west in 22 years in power ,including a decade of expensive bullshit olympics , the old trick of "lets play sports so we become friends". Rolling Eyes   . Now he is doing his retarded moves again. And inviting the west to play hockey  ,  in hopes he could convince the west with a stupid hockey game , into good relations. Rolling Eyes

    Putin wants Russian hockey to challenge NHL
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    “I would really like to see competition between North American hockey, European hockey, [and] let it be Russian hockey,” said Putin.


    https://www.rt.com/sport/558633-putin-wants-khl-compete-nhl/

    Russian facing a war in ukraine by NATO , and cities bombed ,but hey lets play hockey guys?  Laughing
    for what? for solving are differences with sportmanship and promote friendship.
    No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No  No

    Is interesting , how even in forums , in discussion with people that are from AFRICA, people over there ,with very different cultures.. they understood this very well , Putin's mistakes.. And he used the word.  PRETENDING.   a word i adopted. Putin is the Pretending President..  That pretends the west "dont understand Russia"  , pretend that they have only "disagreements" of some issues , and putin's Russia have been Pretending for 22 years that Russia is not facing war , and believing that he can influence the west with Politeness ,bullshit Sports events and speaking softly and by being nice .  No

    here are some comments from RT section.. people that notice the same thing..


    IamKwaku
    Only a clown would want to play silly, immature games with evil enemies seeking your destruction.


    Putin's have the same syndrome of the abused women  , that ends being killed by their abusive
    husbands in domestic violence. because when their husbands beat them , they respond by being submissive to them , polite and nice . This kind of behavior and weakness , based on fear , feeds bullies.. into being more aggressive and more hostile and more abusive ,because they know they can get away with it.

    Reality check.
    The west understand Russia very well , much better than Putin understand it.
    and he is the only clueless moron ,that don't understand the west. Putin think that he can influence
    with weakness the west. but what this does , is encourage the west to Hit harder Russia.
    because when people ,their normal way of being ,is to bully everyone to get their way , and do what it wants ,notice their victims response after their face slapped , notice politeness in their victims and refuse to see things the way they really are.. and instead pretend is a "misunderstanding" ,  Not only they clearly perceive a sign of weakness , but this also encourage all the bullies to hit harder Russia.
    because they see Putin's fear from a mile , and this is very dangerous . To show weakness to someone that is beating your family.  Bullies , only stop ,when they are confronted with authority and with confidence  and the person tells them ,they are ready to use force if they don't stop.  

    But in Putin's DUMBYLAND..  in fantasy world , somehow the FOOL, still think ,that after failing miserably to influence the west into friendship after spending close to $100 billions american dollars in olympics fever , that a hockey game now ,could do the trick , so they say,.. All that's nice , lets shutdown NATO and all the Super Empire we have , putin's is nice.. let the poor man and his country alone. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

    This is so Sad ,SO bad .. that i have see several time American top diplomats in the Obama and Trump administration , including Nancy Pelosi , John Bolton , and Obama , noticing this weakness of Putin.. calling him from very insecure  , to mocking him ,for being Nice and a Teddy bear ,after he invited American Embassy to a christmast party ,the next day Obama kicked near 100 diplomats and stole an invaded a diplomatic residence ,that was under international laws territory of Russia.. Laughing
    So what happened next? After Obama kick out from US near 100 diplomats and steal Russian buildings too ,which is illegal under UN laws.. since embassies treaties protect those properties.
    Lavrov proposed a TIP for TAP, to retaliate in same kind.. but the Master YoDA putin,  believed he could influence the west by showing politeness and being nice , and so Putin invited the US embassy to a christmast party in response.. because Putin's wanted to show the high ground ,that they are more ethical and educated with the west..  Unfortunately for the clueless moron Putin , this tactics did not worked.. zero. and Putin end doing exactly the same thing ,months later ,during Trump administration that Lavrov advice Russia to do.  No

    And here we are now.. Russia facing a major war , that the west openly say ,the seek to totally defeat Russia in Ukraine. and this is why ladies and gentleman ,the west can kill Russian soldiers
    and cut their balls. Kill Russian soldiers , use drones against Russian bases , because they know Putin is very weak ,and he will prefer to avoid a confrontation at any cost. whenever it can be said ,it was an "accidental detonation munition" , when their warships sink.  

    Someone need to explain that Moron ,clueless President Putin, that the west don't give a shit of Russia sports and his politeness. That those things will only tell them ,they need to increase the pressure on Russia after they perceive weakness in Russia response. The only things the west
    respect Is FORCE and LEADERSHIP..  If putin wants to influence the west , someone explain that MORON ,that either he needs to defeat NATO with their military , or else ,he can influence them with an amazing BUSINESS LEADERSHIP . Is not sport medals ,how Putin can influence the west ,into better relations.. is with SPACE exploration medals. with semiconductor leadership , with World Leadership in High TECH electronics , Robotics , in business the west consider the most important ,and that the west use to attract nations into their system orbit , how can Russia earn the respect they want in the world.. Force or Business leadership or both, are the only things could influence the west to stop their war against Russia..  Because any nation is run by humans ,not by robots ,and all humans without exception can be influenced with Force and with leadership. Showing your country have the best roadmap ,for the world to follow into the future.. but this things have to be shown with nation developments.. with real advanced working modern business , and not just with nice words.


    Einstein once told ,that Insanity , is the attempt of humans to do the same things over and over ,again and again and expect different results.   No    Putin's is an insane totalitarian autocratic dictator ,that have no fucking clue of the world he lives.. and no understanding of the west.. he will never influence the west ,to stop killing Russian soldiers and bombing russian cities with politeness .  he is out of touch of reality ,and he needs to be removed by force , before the destroy Russia and the entire world..  The possiblity of a world war 3 ,will not exist .had Russia had a STRONG leader , that very secure of himself ,(not weak and polite) and a true vision of the future , true Development of Russia , not cosmetic cities development which is what Russia did. Creating a post industrial revolution, an education revolution , think in BIG , reinventing Russia   ,in a new way , a build true alternative to the western system either alone or in alliance with China and INDIA and BRASIL and any other nations who wants to join.


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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:23 pm

    Reading Vann Posts are like watching Rachel Madcow reading Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer's take on something they read in the Daily Mail

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:46 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:Reading Vann Posts are like watching  Rachel Madcow reading Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer's take on something they read in the Daily Mail

    So are you telling me that you agree with Putin offer to the west to play Hockey  together
    with those at war with RUssia military in ukraine and helping them with weapons to kill as many Russian soldiers as possible ,and bomb very deep in Russia territory? and kill civilians ?

    Only a clown ,could support such a Fool, like Putin is ,that is the reason why he failed to develop Russia as a leader on anything in the world.. that truly matters for world society other than cheap gas discounts and gas stations . Laughing

    None of this war will be happening if Russia played their cards right and prevented Yakunovych to be overthrow by just a 2,000 of protesters ,and puppet of the west hostile to Russia take his place.
    RUssia very poor soft power , poor influence over ukraine and over its own young generations , is the reason Russia have so much 5th column among its young generation in Russia and why in Ukraine the west ,was so easy for them ,to overthrow any government friendly to Russia.
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:58 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    kvs wrote:The situation with Poland is sad.   All the based Poles I have known are very good people.  True brother Slavs.    But as with Ukraine,
    they are under the rule of a NATzO occupational government.


    The Poles are anti-Russian. However, Polish government, unlike the rest of Europe and with the exception of Hungary, has had social and cultural policies similar to Russia. What I don't understand is why they risk their bodies to defend a rotten Europe with no future.



    Argentinaguard :  The Poles are anti-Russian. However, Polish government, unlike the rest of Europe and with the exception of Hungary, has had social and cultural policies similar to Russia. What I don't understand is why they risk their bodies to defend a rotten Europe with no future.

    Because Russia is an outdated country , is basically mostly a gas station with nukes.. for the past 22 years ,Russia have absolutely done Nothing ,to make a contribution in the world for its development , Russia economy is very outdated , very primitive , and it does zero contribution to the world.. It used to be important in space ,but not anymore.  Because Russia don't have absolutely anything to offer to Poland citizens , other than cheap gas discounts.. This is why Poles choose Americans over Russia.

    IS a Business Leadership crisis ,the problem that Russia face.  That it is seen , only as a weapons dealer with cheap gas discounts. Polish people compares US vs Russia ,what they can get , and is not a brainer , The western business are far superior to Russia ,in 99% of the times. There is absolutely no reason to follow Russia ,unless you want weapons ,cheap food and gas discounts. lol1

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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:49 am

    There is absolutely no reason to follow Russia ,unless you want weapons ,cheap food and gas discounts. lol1

    The only three things that really matter on this world. I guess polish will eat some powerpoints from US consulting firms from now on.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:52 am

    Isos wrote:
    There is absolutely no reason to follow Russia ,unless you want weapons ,cheap food and gas discounts. lol1

    The only three things that really matter on this world. I guess polish will eat some powerpoints from US consulting firms from now on.

    Nothing big, just several building blocks of civilization

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    Post  Broski Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:26 am

    Vann7 wrote:Because Russia is an outdated country , is basically mostly a gas station with nukes.. 
    Gas station, Supermarket, Metal Fabricator, Nuclear physicist, Lumber warehouse, Noble gas depot, Self Defense expert, Chess master, Cyber security expert, Fertilizer dispensary, Rocket technician. Russia is of course, a country of many talents.

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