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    Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:50 am

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    Fourth ship is starting trials

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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:17 am

    Patrol ship "Sergei Kotov" at sea

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    Post  Krepost Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:09 pm

    Reports that Sergei Kotov has conducted artillery fire exercises from main 76mm gun.
    Picture of ship as seen near Sevastopol a few days ago:

    Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship - Page 26 Sergei10

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    Post  Krepost Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:04 am

    Today is pr. 22160 "Porn day"

    First a short video:



    Then a photo of the SERGEI KOTOV entering Sevastopol earlier this month:

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    Then, some extra-large size photos of the ship which is about to enter service in the Black Sea Fleet:
    (Click on the link below, then click on the photo to enlarge it)

    https://radikal.ru/lfp/c.radikal.ru/c03/2112/a2/86a82c9f46af.jpg/htm

    https://radikal.ru/lfp/d.radikal.ru/d32/2112/56/2848372fee2a.jpg/htm

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    https://radikal.ru/lfp/c.radikal.ru/c10/2112/74/da9e02b52921.jpg/htm

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:14 am

    I have seen videos of a ship carrying a TOR module on the aft deck, just chained down and operating from that position.

    Is it possible that this ship in the event of hostilities can carry 2, UKSK containers in the lower hull storage with 8 kalibr missiles, and then on top there would still be room to have a TOR module operating from the aft deck ? Is there room on that deck for a TOR and the kalibr missiles to be used simultaneously

    I'd also like to ask would Pal and positiv radars ok n board bykov be able to network with standalone tor module similar to other battle management systems in RF inventories? Could bykov cue through it's own radars targetting info for a standalone tor

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:28 am

    Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:05 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

    This class was designed with Shtil AA system but Navy requested that first batch of ships should have accommodation for additional marine complement be installed there instead

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:02 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

    A Tor-M2 module was tested onboard Adm. Grigorovich.

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    This version of Tor can be used from any platform. Sort of plug-in and shoot. Very Happy

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:25 am

    I have seen videos of a ship carrying a TOR module on the aft deck, just chained down and operating from that position.

    Helicopter spots have tie down points, and probably also data/power connectors as well, so it makes sense to take advantage of an existing setup.

    I'd also like to ask would Pal and positiv radars ok n board bykov be able to network with standalone tor module similar to other battle management systems in RF inventories? Could bykov cue through it's own radars targetting info for a standalone tor

    Technically a Russian ship is an IADS, so its main search radars equate to search radars, and the systems for Redut should allow target data sharing with this which is essentially a TOR vehicle with its engine and tracks removed.

    The TOR mount seems to have the search and tracking radar so all it would need would be a cue from the main radar as to where to look for the most threatening air target in range.

    I have seen other versions that look like they are more integrated with the ship where one piece looks like the turret alone with the tracking radar and missiles, while other bins with just missiles and no radar at all can be colocated... presumably the search function is taken over by the ships radars and the tracking portion tracks targets while the extra bins can be located on the deck around the ship to increase ready to use ammo.

    Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

    What they are doing is new, but what they used to do and is widely done elsewhere is that a ground based system like Shilka or TOR is parked on the deck of a ship to improve air defence performance... these experiments with stripped down shelterised models might lead to permanent or modular systems that can be placed or removed as required...

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    Post  Krepost Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm

    Viktor Veliky inside the factory:
    Phot is more than 1 year old (December 2020)
    Ship should be ready for launch (if not already done without fanfare).
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    Post  walle83 Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:23 pm

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10586145/Cheering-Ukrainian-navy-hits-Russian-war-ship-Black-Sea-Odessa.html

    "Russian ship Vasily Bykov was said to have been hit in the Black Sea overnight
    Video appeared to show defence forces in Odessa exchanging fire with ships
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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:31 pm

    walle83 wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10586145/Cheering-Ukrainian-navy-hits-Russian-war-ship-Black-Sea-Odessa.html

    "Russian ship Vasily Bykov was said to have been hit in the Black Sea overnight
    Video appeared to show defence forces in Odessa exchanging fire with ships
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    What a joke. The rokets have been launced and 2 seconds after they hit the ship. Clearly impossible, such rockets fly longer at such distances. A pathetic propaganda piece.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:56 pm

    The guy is lying. Walle is a piece of shit honestly. Known liar and has zero knowledge of Economics, military or about anything.

    The ship in question was reported earlier in the other thread. It was said to be the attack earlier on trading vessels.

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:29 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:The guy is lying. Walle is a piece of shit honestly. Known liar and has zero knowledge of Economics, military or about anything.

    The ship in question was reported earlier in the other thread. It was said to be the attack earlier on trading vessels.

    I have the feeling that half of our members turned into dickheads or trolls since the start of this operation.

    By the way how long is PapaDragon banned ? He wasn't that bad contrary to other members here. Let him come back.

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    Post  walle83 Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:55 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:The guy is lying. Walle is a piece of shit honestly. Known liar and has zero knowledge of Economics, military or about anything.

    The ship in question was reported earlier in the other thread. It was said to be the attack earlier on trading vessels.

    How about we ban you insted.

    About the article about the ship im sure we soon find out the truth.
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    Post  Navy fanboy Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:04 am

    The Ukranians have mentioned alot of lies throughout this campaign. I mean 'The ghost of Kiev' was found to be another lie as his footage shooting down 7 Russian aircraft was from a video game. The Ukrainians also mention tht Russians are killing civilians, but do not mention the Biden sponsored Neo-Nazi group Azov, which had kiiled 14k Russian civilians when in a cease Fire.

    So judging from the evidence and the lies Ukrainian officials have spewed, this hitting a Russian patrol vessel is absolute bull.

    Walle you are correct the truth will be exposed soon, but i believe Ukraine didnt hit the ship. They are known liars.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:05 am

    Is papadragon banned permanently? Let that guy in Garry, we will handle him
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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:06 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Is papadragon banned permanently? Let that guy in Garry, we will handle him

    I doubt papadragon got banned. I think he just stopped posting.
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    Post  Mir Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:10 pm

    No I believe he got banned.
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    Post  diabetus Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:17 pm

    Navy fanboy wrote:The Ukranians have mentioned alot of lies throughout this campaign. I mean 'The ghost of Kiev' was found to be another lie as his footage shooting down 7 Russian aircraft was from a video game. The Ukrainians also mention tht Russians are killing civilians, but do not mention the Biden sponsored Neo-Nazi group Azov, which had kiiled 14k Russian civilians when in a cease Fire.

    So judging from the evidence  and the lies Ukrainian officials have spewed, this hitting a Russian patrol vessel is absolute bull.

    Walle you are correct the truth will be exposed soon, but i believe Ukraine didnt hit the ship. They are known liars.  

    i mean yeah the "evidence" is grad firing in pitch black and fire in the distance.
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    Post  Navy fanboy Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:56 am

    That doesnt prove anything i mean Russian ships have missile defences to make it look like a ship was hit by a missile. not too sure if vessel has this system, as it would have fooled the Ukrainians

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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:54 am

    I would say being a daily fail article the level of fact checking is likely 2 year old child level... I am surprised there are no dragons in the story...

    Grad rockets would be rather difficult to aim at a ship, but would also be relatively difficult for that ship to deal with... but being a modern ship it will have radar and thermals and could quickly determine where the rockets came from and fire a burst from its main gun in response.... the chance of a volley of 122mm rockets doing serious damage is not high simply because most are designed to penetrate small bits of heavy armour filled with people and fuel and explosive or to deliver shrapnel around the place... neither of which would be very useful against a real ship except in enormous concentrations.

    The video proves it is idiotic.

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    Post  Navy fanboy Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:10 am

    As of Slava Intel the patrol ship that was "hit" by a Grau missile arrived in Sevastopol without a scratch. Will find video on phone to post on here
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    Post  Isos Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:18 am

    Navy fanboy wrote:As of Slava Intel the patrol ship that was "hit" by a Grau missile arrived in Sevastopol without a scratch.  Will find video on phone to post on here

    It was already shared 4 times on the other thread.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:40 am

    I entered the Russian military forum "balancer.ru" today and saw that this topic is current. It stands, the forum is just a forum, while the decisions of Russian planners at the top of the military and the Russian navy are far more important.
    I think that the Russians will most likely rearm the patrol ships of the 22160 project in the near future.
    This picture shows a model of that ship with the eight-barrel UKSK and the "Redut" (each side wit 8 missiles) air defense system, which is located on the side of the ship, behind the motor boat and in the part between the helicopter accommodation hangars. Also, this model has two four-barrel torpedoes with the Paket-NK system.

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    I know that there was a model showing two eight-barrel UKSK (16 in total), but I think that is unnecessary. The ship has a smaller displacement than the project 20380 corvette and especially the project frigate 22350.



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