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    Post  hoom on 11/09/18, 04:53 pm

    Well that one doesn't look shipshape from any angle though dunno
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    Post  hoom on 18/09/18, 12:47 pm

    2nd boat on deperming
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 18/09/18, 02:30 pm

    hoom wrote:2nd boat on deperming

    sexy beast,  I hope Russian Navy makes small corvettes on her hull instead of 22800 Razz
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    Post  hoom on 18/09/18, 08:09 pm

    And then there were two
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    Post  Hole on 19/09/18, 12:51 am

    Sexy twins. Rolling Eyes tongue
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    Post  AlfaT8 on 19/09/18, 12:58 am

    Hole wrote:Sexy twins. Rolling Eyes tongue

    No UKSK?
    Not sexy enough.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 19/09/18, 01:29 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Hole wrote:Sexy twins. Rolling Eyes tongue

    No UKSK?
    Not sexy enough.

    it is sexy with UKSK, Pantsirs and Paket would be pure porn lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  AlfaT8 on 19/09/18, 01:43 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Hole wrote:Sexy twins. Rolling Eyes tongue

    No UKSK?
    Not sexy enough.

    it is sexy with UKSK, Pantsirs and Paket would be pure porn lol1 lol1 lol1

    True that. Wink
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 19/09/18, 02:02 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:

    True that. Wink

    let's give them a bit of time. With right budget they'll need light corvettes in numbers. Her hull has 1,5x bigger displacement, is designed to high seas and higher degree of autonomy +a chopper. My bet is this will replace 22800 or 20380
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    Post  PapaDragon on 19/09/18, 04:13 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:

    True that. Wink

    let's give them a bit of time. With right budget they'll need light corvettes in numbers. Her hull has 1,5x bigger displacement, is designed to high seas and higher degree of autonomy +a chopper. My bet is this will replace 22800 or 20380

    It won't. Karakurt is in high demand for a reason and Steregushi already has replacement (second one at that)

    But it could replace all those Soviet era specialized anti-sub corvettes. Just add sonar. They would easily need dozens of them at least.
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    Post  Hole on 19/09/18, 12:58 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Hole wrote:Sexy twins. Rolling Eyes tongue

    No UKSK?
    Not sexy enough.

    It can be equipped with containerised USKS.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 19/09/18, 03:30 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    It won't. Karakurt is in high demand for a reason and Steregushi already has replacement (second one at that)

    But it could replace all those Soviet era specialized anti-sub corvettes. Just add sonar. They would easily need dozens of them at least.


    Karakurt cost "well below 10billions Rubles". Check Almaz interview in Sudostroyenie. This means it is "lmuch ess then 150mln USD". I'd say - the biggest reason behind choosing this hull is Almaz lobbying.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on 19/09/18, 07:06 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    It won't. Karakurt is in high demand for a reason and Steregushi already has replacement (second one at that)

    But it could replace all those Soviet era specialized anti-sub corvettes. Just add sonar. They would easily need dozens of them at least.


    Karakurt cost "well below 10billions Rubles". Check Almaz interview in Sudostroyenie. This means it is "lmuch ess then 150mln USD". I'd say - the biggest reason behind choosing this hull is  Almaz lobbying.

    Karakut costs like 30Mill USD a boat.
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    Post  hoom on 20/09/18, 03:00 pm

    There is an interesting rumor that the 2 being built at Kerch are a little bigger for better armament.
    Not confirmable currently though.
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    Post  Hole on 20/09/18, 08:36 pm

    Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 21/09/18, 03:16 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Karakut costs like 30Mill USD a boat.

    ok  would be ~2 billions. Do you know how much is 22160?
    BTW then  he said well below 10 billions?



    Hole wrote:Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.

    it was planned in export version for 22160 (Shtil VLS 24 cells) precisely in this place. But standard is Gibka. My guess would be better Pantsir (still 40 range 20km ceiling) . + Paket . According to Russian wiki displacement is 1500 tons (2x 22800 so more electronics and weapons)
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    Post  PapaDragon on 21/09/18, 03:56 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:.....

    Hole wrote:Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.

    it was planned in export version for 22160 (Shtil VLS 24 cells) precisely in this place. But standard is Gibka. My guess would be better Pantsir (still 40 range 20km ceiling) . + Paket . According to Russian wiki displacement is 1500 tons (2x 22800 so more electronics and weapons)

    Not just for export version.

    Russian ones were to have AA missile VLS behind main gun but Navy requested​ that the space be used for accommodations​ for extra marines.

    Armoured landing craft as also added. They want first ones to be anti-piracy vessels.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 21/09/18, 04:28 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Not just for export version.

    Russian ones were to have AA missile VLS behind main gun but Navy requested​ that the space be used for accommodations​ for extra marines.

    Me thinks that sooner or later 22160 or version will be used as basis for light corvette.



    Armoured landing craft as also added. They want first ones to be anti-piracy vessels.

    ok then first they start working in Azov Sea lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on 21/09/18, 10:14 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Karakut costs like 30Mill USD a boat.

    ok  would be ~2 billions. Do you know how much is 22160?
    BTW then  he said well below 10 billions?



    Hole wrote:Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.

    it was planned in export version for 22160 (Shtil VLS 24 cells) precisely in this place.  But standard is Gibka.  My guess would be better Pantsir (still 40 range 20km ceiling) .  + Paket . According to Russian wiki displacement is 1500 tons (2x 22800 so more electronics and weapons)


    Around 300k USD currently.

    T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD

    That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.
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    Post  hoom on 21/09/18, 04:37 pm

    Heli deck looking towards the hangar door
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on 21/09/18, 04:50 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Around 300k USD currently.

    T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD

    That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.

    200k = 200.000 Suspect Suspect Suspect ?

    300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on 21/09/18, 06:51 pm

    Replace K with M, my bad on the typos there.

    also, the 20386's are more than 300M each.
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    Post  Isos on 21/09/18, 07:05 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Around 300k USD currently.

    T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD

    That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.

    200k = 200.000 Suspect Suspect Suspect ?

    300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386

    Steroushchy is 120 millions, with uksk it could be 150. They should buy more of them.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on 21/09/18, 08:55 pm

    Isos wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Around 300k USD currently.

    T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD

    That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.

    200k = 200.000 Suspect Suspect Suspect ?

    300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386

    Steroushchy is 120 millions, with uksk it could be 150. They should buy more of them.

    no, the export is like 150M which is what you are talking about, the domestic one is more expensive because it has better equipment and other things and Russia tends to price it exports at a lower price than the domestic tags to make them more affordable therefore more attractive to buyers which is a good sales tactic.
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    Post  Isos on 21/09/18, 09:29 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Around 300k USD currently.

    T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD

    That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.

    200k = 200.000 Suspect Suspect Suspect ?

    300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386

    Steroushchy is 120 millions, with uksk it could be 150. They should buy more of them.

    no, the export is like 150M which is what you are talking about, the domestic one is more expensive because it has better equipment and other things and Russia tends to price it exports at a lower price than the domestic tags to make them more affordable therefore more attractive to buyers which is a good sales tactic.

    Do you have data for domestic price ?

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