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Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
hoom- Posts : 2352
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- Post n°326
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Well that one doesn't look shipshape from any angle though
hoom- Posts : 2352
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- Post n°327
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
2nd boat on deperming
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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- Post n°328
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
hoom wrote:2nd boat on deperming
sexy beast, I hope Russian Navy makes small corvettes on her hull instead of 22800
hoom- Posts : 2352
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- Post n°329
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
And then there were two
Hole- Posts : 11160
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- Post n°330
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Sexy twins.
AlfaT8- Posts : 2503
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- Post n°331
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Hole wrote:Sexy twins.
No UKSK?
Not sexy enough.
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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- Post n°332
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
AlfaT8 wrote:Hole wrote:Sexy twins.
No UKSK?
Not sexy enough.
it is sexy with UKSK, Pantsirs and Paket would be pure porn
AlfaT8- Posts : 2503
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- Post n°333
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
GunshipDemocracy wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Hole wrote:Sexy twins.
No UKSK?
Not sexy enough.
it is sexy with UKSK, Pantsirs and Paket would be pure porn
True that.
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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- Post n°334
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
AlfaT8 wrote:
True that.
let's give them a bit of time. With right budget they'll need light corvettes in numbers. Her hull has 1,5x bigger displacement, is designed to high seas and higher degree of autonomy +a chopper. My bet is this will replace 22800 or 20380
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- Post n°335
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
GunshipDemocracy wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:
True that.
let's give them a bit of time. With right budget they'll need light corvettes in numbers. Her hull has 1,5x bigger displacement, is designed to high seas and higher degree of autonomy +a chopper. My bet is this will replace 22800 or 20380
It won't. Karakurt is in high demand for a reason and Steregushi already has replacement (second one at that)
But it could replace all those Soviet era specialized anti-sub corvettes. Just add sonar. They would easily need dozens of them at least.
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- Post n°336
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
AlfaT8 wrote:Hole wrote:Sexy twins.
No UKSK?
Not sexy enough.
It can be equipped with containerised USKS.
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- Post n°337
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
PapaDragon wrote:
It won't. Karakurt is in high demand for a reason and Steregushi already has replacement (second one at that)
But it could replace all those Soviet era specialized anti-sub corvettes. Just add sonar. They would easily need dozens of them at least.
Karakurt cost "well below 10billions Rubles". Check Almaz interview in Sudostroyenie. This means it is "lmuch ess then 150mln USD". I'd say - the biggest reason behind choosing this hull is Almaz lobbying.
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3945
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- Post n°338
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
GunshipDemocracy wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
It won't. Karakurt is in high demand for a reason and Steregushi already has replacement (second one at that)
But it could replace all those Soviet era specialized anti-sub corvettes. Just add sonar. They would easily need dozens of them at least.
Karakurt cost "well below 10billions Rubles". Check Almaz interview in Sudostroyenie. This means it is "lmuch ess then 150mln USD". I'd say - the biggest reason behind choosing this hull is Almaz lobbying.
Karakut costs like 30Mill USD a boat.
hoom- Posts : 2352
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Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
There is an interesting rumor that the 2 being built at Kerch are a little bigger for better armament.
Not confirmable currently though.
Not confirmable currently though.
Hole- Posts : 11160
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- Post n°340
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.
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- Post n°341
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Karakut costs like 30Mill USD a boat.
ok would be ~2 billions. Do you know how much is 22160?
BTW then he said well below 10 billions?
Hole wrote:Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.
it was planned in export version for 22160 (Shtil VLS 24 cells) precisely in this place. But standard is Gibka. My guess would be better Pantsir (still 40 range 20km ceiling) . + Paket . According to Russian wiki displacement is 1500 tons (2x 22800 so more electronics and weapons)
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- Post n°342
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
GunshipDemocracy wrote:.....Hole wrote:Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.
it was planned in export version for 22160 (Shtil VLS 24 cells) precisely in this place. But standard is Gibka. My guess would be better Pantsir (still 40 range 20km ceiling) . + Paket . According to Russian wiki displacement is 1500 tons (2x 22800 so more electronics and weapons)
Not just for export version.
Russian ones were to have AA missile VLS behind main gun but Navy requested that the space be used for accommodations for extra marines.
Armoured landing craft as also added. They want first ones to be anti-piracy vessels.
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- Post n°343
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
PapaDragon wrote:
Not just for export version.
Russian ones were to have AA missile VLS behind main gun but Navy requested that the space be used for accommodations for extra marines.
Me thinks that sooner or later 22160 or version will be used as basis for light corvette.
Armoured landing craft as also added. They want first ones to be anti-piracy vessels.
ok then first they start working in Azov Sea
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3945
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- Post n°344
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
GunshipDemocracy wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Karakut costs like 30Mill USD a boat.
ok would be ~2 billions. Do you know how much is 22160?
BTW then he said well below 10 billions?Hole wrote:Maybe the silos for air defence missiles between gun and bridge.
it was planned in export version for 22160 (Shtil VLS 24 cells) precisely in this place. But standard is Gibka. My guess would be better Pantsir (still 40 range 20km ceiling) . + Paket . According to Russian wiki displacement is 1500 tons (2x 22800 so more electronics and weapons)
Around 300k USD currently.
T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD
That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.
hoom- Posts : 2352
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Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Heli deck looking towards the hangar door
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- Post n°346
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Around 300k USD currently.
T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD
That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.
200k = 200.000 ?
300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3945
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- Post n°347
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Replace K with M, my bad on the typos there.
also, the 20386's are more than 300M each.
also, the 20386's are more than 300M each.
Isos- Posts : 11617
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- Post n°348
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
GunshipDemocracy wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Around 300k USD currently.
T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD
That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.
200k = 200.000 ?
300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386
Steroushchy is 120 millions, with uksk it could be 150. They should buy more of them.
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3945
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Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
Isos wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Around 300k USD currently.
T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD
That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.
200k = 200.000 ?
300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386
Steroushchy is 120 millions, with uksk it could be 150. They should buy more of them.
no, the export is like 150M which is what you are talking about, the domestic one is more expensive because it has better equipment and other things and Russia tends to price it exports at a lower price than the domestic tags to make them more affordable therefore more attractive to buyers which is a good sales tactic.
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- Post n°350
Re: Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Isos wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Around 300k USD currently.
T0 put things into perspective The stere's cost like 200k ish USD
That modularity they have cost a pretty penny.
200k = 200.000 ?
300 mln $ this is the cost of 20386
Steroushchy is 120 millions, with uksk it could be 150. They should buy more of them.
no, the export is like 150M which is what you are talking about, the domestic one is more expensive because it has better equipment and other things and Russia tends to price it exports at a lower price than the domestic tags to make them more affordable therefore more attractive to buyers which is a good sales tactic.
Do you have data for domestic price ?