George1 wrote:This tank has entered massive production?
No
George1 wrote:This tank has entered massive production?
Militarov wrote:
One good shot of AA gun
George1 wrote:
magnumcromagnon wrote:A wild Persian T-90MS appears:
New Iranian Karrar tank appeared like a T-90cm
magnumcromagnon wrote:A wild Persian T-90MS appears:
New Iranian Karrar tank appeared like a T-90cm
Benya wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:A wild Persian T-90MS appears:
New Iranian Karrar tank appeared like a T-90cm
I can hardly believe this. Now the Iranians are being "copycats" like the Chinese?
Neoprime wrote:Benya wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:A wild Persian T-90MS appears:
New Iranian Karrar tank appeared like a T-90cm
I can hardly believe this. Now the Iranians are being "copycats" like the Chinese?
Ain't nothing wrong with that.![]()
Benya wrote:Neoprime wrote:Benya wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:A wild Persian T-90MS appears:
New Iranian Karrar tank appeared like a T-90cm
I can hardly believe this. Now the Iranians are being "copycats" like the Chinese?
Ain't nothing wrong with that.![]()
You must be joking!![]()
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If someone would stole your tank design, how would you feel? I'm sure that there is no license agreement between Russia and Iran, so this is just a copy.
KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys it's a blurry picture out of an ad. the tank that fires during the same ad, is a T72S, nowhere near the T90. If Iran has this new tank, seeing it should be fairly easy. Let the smoke clear and we'll see exactly what it is. IMO it's a well dressed T72S with all the right cardboard at the right place.
magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys it's a blurry picture out of an ad. the tank that fires during the same ad, is a T72S, nowhere near the T90. If Iran has this new tank, seeing it should be fairly easy. Let the smoke clear and we'll see exactly what it is. IMO it's a well dressed T72S with all the right cardboard at the right place.
Nothing stops Russia from giving the Iranians TOT, however there's great obstacles in directly selling hardware to the Persians. Giving TOT makes the most sense, so Russia could still profit on Iranian market with plausible deniability to boot!
KoTeMoRe wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys it's a blurry picture out of an ad. the tank that fires during the same ad, is a T72S, nowhere near the T90. If Iran has this new tank, seeing it should be fairly easy. Let the smoke clear and we'll see exactly what it is. IMO it's a well dressed T72S with all the right cardboard at the right place.
Nothing stops Russia from giving the Iranians TOT, however there's great obstacles in directly selling hardware to the Persians. Giving TOT makes the most sense, so Russia could still profit on Iranian market with plausible deniability to boot!
ToT with what parts? ERA and subsystems for tanks are still under embargo. It's like learning to a kid to draw with out pencil, paper and eraser. This tank is just a mock up over a T72S. If this was something else the Iranian would have had this parading like they were in Jerusalem.
magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys it's a blurry picture out of an ad. the tank that fires during the same ad, is a T72S, nowhere near the T90. If Iran has this new tank, seeing it should be fairly easy. Let the smoke clear and we'll see exactly what it is. IMO it's a well dressed T72S with all the right cardboard at the right place.
Nothing stops Russia from giving the Iranians TOT, however there's great obstacles in directly selling hardware to the Persians. Giving TOT makes the most sense, so Russia could still profit on Iranian market with plausible deniability to boot!
ToT with what parts? ERA and subsystems for tanks are still under embargo. It's like learning to a kid to draw with out pencil, paper and eraser. This tank is just a mock up over a T72S. If this was something else the Iranian would have had this parading like they were in Jerusalem.
Who says you have to announce anything? The Pentagon can't even keep track of their mismanaged trillions (allegedly), their arms shipments (allegedly) nor could they track a Russian-Iranian transfer of technology. The US has no presence in the Caspian sea and is heavily reliant on satellites that have been known to 'skip a beat' when Russia makes a move strategically.
KoTeMoRe wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys it's a blurry picture out of an ad. the tank that fires during the same ad, is a T72S, nowhere near the T90. If Iran has this new tank, seeing it should be fairly easy. Let the smoke clear and we'll see exactly what it is. IMO it's a well dressed T72S with all the right cardboard at the right place.
Nothing stops Russia from giving the Iranians TOT, however there's great obstacles in directly selling hardware to the Persians. Giving TOT makes the most sense, so Russia could still profit on Iranian market with plausible deniability to boot!
ToT with what parts? ERA and subsystems for tanks are still under embargo. It's like learning to a kid to draw with out pencil, paper and eraser. This tank is just a mock up over a T72S. If this was something else the Iranian would have had this parading like they were in Jerusalem.
Who says you have to announce anything? The Pentagon can't even keep track of their mismanaged trillions (allegedly), their arms shipments (allegedly) nor could they track a Russian-Iranian transfer of technology. The US has no presence in the Caspian sea and is heavily reliant on satellites that have been known to 'skip a beat' when Russia makes a move strategically.
Jesus it's not about "slipping" a couple of ERA panels and a bunch of subsystems, it's about the statement you'd make with that. It would simply mean, we don't give a fuck about the sanctions regime. This is wrong plainly wrong and would have repercussions on both Russia and Iran. If Iran got all uppity about a public unveiling about the Russian operation in Hamedan, immagine how butthurt the Pentagon will show about "hurr durr forbidden arms transfer...hurr duurrrr".
Because Iran agreed to....kvs wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys it's a blurry picture out of an ad. the tank that fires during the same ad, is a T72S, nowhere near the T90. If Iran has this new tank, seeing it should be fairly easy. Let the smoke clear and we'll see exactly what it is. IMO it's a well dressed T72S with all the right cardboard at the right place.
Nothing stops Russia from giving the Iranians TOT, however there's great obstacles in directly selling hardware to the Persians. Giving TOT makes the most sense, so Russia could still profit on Iranian market with plausible deniability to boot!
ToT with what parts? ERA and subsystems for tanks are still under embargo. It's like learning to a kid to draw with out pencil, paper and eraser. This tank is just a mock up over a T72S. If this was something else the Iranian would have had this parading like they were in Jerusalem.
Who says you have to announce anything? The Pentagon can't even keep track of their mismanaged trillions (allegedly), their arms shipments (allegedly) nor could they track a Russian-Iranian transfer of technology. The US has no presence in the Caspian sea and is heavily reliant on satellites that have been known to 'skip a beat' when Russia makes a move strategically.
Jesus it's not about "slipping" a couple of ERA panels and a bunch of subsystems, it's about the statement you'd make with that. It would simply mean, we don't give a fuck about the sanctions regime. This is wrong plainly wrong and would have repercussions on both Russia and Iran. If Iran got all uppity about a public unveiling about the Russian operation in Hamedan, immagine how butthurt the Pentagon will show about "hurr durr forbidden arms transfer...hurr duurrrr".
And why should Russia and Iran give a flying f*ck about what the self-anointed master of the planet thinks. Uncle Scam needs Iran to supply gas
to the EU. Qatar cannot do it. So there is only so much that the Scammer will do.