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    Immigration implications on Russian society

    AbsoluteZero
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    Post  AbsoluteZero Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:56 pm

    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:56 pm

    "Christianisation" sounds like morbid joke to me, we currently and in past 8 years have seen what Christianisation has brought from US, UK, Spain and even Germany killing of tribes and wiping even some out by giving them mercury in vaccines all for the mighty flying spagetti monster.



    Would be glad to see less of this retarded religion indoctrination especially on soil and in regions where this religions never have originated from, not our religions never was and never will be it only against us.


    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Easy, education and constantly reduction of religious indoctrination of new generations, forbidding defacto only reinforces such religous behavior and indoctrination it needs to be made loose from the people and loosed up from their culture and traditions and acted as what it is a social constructed supersticious believes, education of scientific knowledge is one of the major factors that will loose peoples minds from this mystical religious nonsense believes and see things like they are.


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    TR1
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    Post  TR1 Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:58 pm

    AbsoluteZero wrote:
    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Kavkaz had Islam for many years without any real problems. Wahhabism is a problem. Islam is not.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:07 am

    Kavkaz had Islam for many years without any real problems. Wahhabism is a problem. Islam is not.

    I agree Wahhabism is the problem, not Islam.
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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:41 pm

    AbsoluteZero wrote:
    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Man , you should apply for a job in washington post Twisted Evil
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    Immigration implications on Russian society - Page 6 Empty I was just wondering, does Russia have a re-Christianization

    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:58 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    AbsoluteZero wrote:
    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Man , you should apply for a job in washington post Twisted Evil
    I second that. pirat
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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:36 am

    Russia to Fingerprint Immigrants En Masse Starting Next Year

    Russia will start fingerprinting immigrants en masse to prevent repeated entries by people who have been refused entry.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia will start fingerprinting immigrants en masse starting next year to prevent repeated entries by people who have been refused entry, local media reported Monday.

    "This measure will help detect foreigners who try to sneak into the country using a new name after they were denied entry," a source in the Federal Migration Service told the Russian Izvestia newspaper.

    Under existing regulations, migrant workers from countries that have a visa-free agreement with Moscow must have their fingerprints taken within 30 days after coming to Russia.

    "It is unclear whether this measure will be applied to all foreigners," the source told Izvestia.

    According to the information obtained by the outlet, all migrant entry points – around 400 of them across Russia – could soon be equipped with fingerprint scanners to facilitate migrant processing.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151109/1029793791/russia-fingerprint-immigrants.html#ixzz3qzdV4BGI
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:29 am

    Russian Parliament Calls for Migration Policy Changes

    A draft decision to be adopted on Friday by the Federation Council and the State Duma says that the norms of international law and Russian legislation in particular must be improved in the migration policy sphere in order to prevent the spread of terrorism.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The norms of international law and Russian legislation in particular must be improved in the migration policy sphere in order to prevent the spread of terrorism, a draft decision to be adopted on Friday by the Federation Council and the State Duma (upper and lower houses of the Russian parliament) says.

    "A reliable barrier should be put up at the state borders against the penetration of extremists into Russia," the document stresses.

    According to the Russian parliament, an international exchange of information is also crucial in the prevention of terrorist attacks and joint measures are needed to cut off support to terrorist groups.

    "Supplying terrorist groups with weapons, purchasing raw materials and objects of cultural value from them is complicity in their crimes that should be punished no less vigorously, than the actions of the militants themselves," the draft parliamentary document says.

    On Monday, French President Francois Hollande called for a broad anti-terrorism coalition including the United States and Russia to tackle the threat of Islamic State (ISIL) radicals.

    ISIL, which has ceased vast areas in Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for the November 13 terrorist attacks in Paris that killed 129 people, injuring over 300 others.

    The rise of ISIL radicals in Syria is one of the main driving factors behind a major influx of refugees from the Middle East that Europe has been dealing with.

    Ilya Rogachev, head of the Department for New Challenges and Threats (DNCT) at the Russian Foreign Ministry stressed in an interview with the Russian Kommersant newspaper that UN member-states must work on cutting off illegal oil trade carried out by ISIL, since it is a major source of their financing, according to the UN Security Council.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151120/1030429241/russia-migration-policy-changes.html#ixzz3rzk9qS00
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    Post  franco Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:44 am


    About 670 thousand foreigners have received Russian citizenship since the beginning of the year


    Since the beginning of 2021, 667 thousand 939 foreigners have become holders of Russian citizenship. The corresponding calculations were made by the Ministry of the Interior.

    This number is almost 105 thousand people more than the same indicator last year. Then the citizenship of the Russian Federation was received by 563 thousand 342 citizens of foreign states. Writes about this TASS with reference to the summary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on the migration situation in the country.

    Earlier, the Russian Federation predicted an increase in the inflow of migrants in 2022. The corresponding forecast is based on information about the economic situation in the CIS countries, as well as on the expected consequences of changes in Russian migration legislation. ■

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20211226337-nJsUD.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui

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    Post  par far Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:18 pm

    franco wrote:
    About 670 thousand foreigners have received Russian citizenship since the beginning of the year


    Since the beginning of 2021, 667 thousand 939 foreigners have become holders of Russian citizenship. The corresponding calculations were made by the Ministry of the Interior.

    This number is almost 105 thousand people more than the same indicator last year. Then the citizenship of the Russian Federation was received by 563 thousand 342 citizens of foreign states. Writes about this TASS with reference to the summary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on the migration situation in the country.

    Earlier, the Russian Federation predicted an increase in the inflow of migrants in 2022. The corresponding forecast is based on information about the economic situation in the CIS countries, as well as on the expected consequences of changes in Russian migration legislation. ■

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20211226337-nJsUD.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui



    This is not the right way to do this, grow your own population, not bring in immgrants.
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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:41 pm

    It is not clear from this article where the immigration is from. Russians are still migrating from the ex-USSR republics to Russia.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1203451/immigration-by-country-in-russia/

    The immigration is overwhelmingly from the ex-Soviet republics and it cannot be assume that these are all local ethnic groups.

    https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/stats/documents/ece/ces/ge.10/2018/mtg1/RUS_Chudinovskikh_ENG.pdf

    The net migration is around 200,000. So we see a large turnover of people going in and out from the ex-Soviet republics.
    I think the net migration is primarily ethnic Russia and Ukrainian.

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    Post  calripson Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:34 pm

    par far wrote:
    franco wrote:
    About 670 thousand foreigners have received Russian citizenship since the beginning of the year


    Since the beginning of 2021, 667 thousand 939 foreigners have become holders of Russian citizenship. The corresponding calculations were made by the Ministry of the Interior.

    This number is almost 105 thousand people more than the same indicator last year. Then the citizenship of the Russian Federation was received by 563 thousand 342 citizens of foreign states. Writes about this TASS with reference to the summary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on the migration situation in the country.

    Earlier, the Russian Federation predicted an increase in the inflow of migrants in 2022. The corresponding forecast is based on information about the economic situation in the CIS countries, as well as on the expected consequences of changes in Russian migration legislation. ■

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20211226337-nJsUD.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui



    This is not the right way to do this, grow your own population, not bring in immgrants.

    The right immigrants in the right amount are plus. Allowing immigration of highly skilled and educated people with the right cultural background and mindset only strengthens Russia. Unfortunately, state policy has made this very difficult.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:14 am

    par far wrote:
    This is not the right way to do this, grow your own population, not bring in immgrants.

    Over half of that number is people from the Ukraine (especially Donetsk and Lugansk) receiving Russian citizenship

    That's not to say that we don't have a lot of immigration from other places though.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:33 am

    https://www.awaragroup.com/blog/medical-checks-foreigners/

    This will expel loads of people who should not be in Russia, 2021 was a great year of regulation

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