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    Post  AbsoluteZero Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:56 pm

    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:56 pm

    "Christianisation" sounds like morbid joke to me, we currently and in past 8 years have seen what Christianisation has brought from US, UK, Spain and even Germany killing of tribes and wiping even some out by giving them mercury in vaccines all for the mighty flying spagetti monster.



    Would be glad to see less of this retarded religion indoctrination especially on soil and in regions where this religions never have originated from, not our religions never was and never will be it only against us.


    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Easy, education and constantly reduction of religious indoctrination of new generations, forbidding defacto only reinforces such religous behavior and indoctrination it needs to be made loose from the people and loosed up from their culture and traditions and acted as what it is a social constructed supersticious believes, education of scientific knowledge is one of the major factors that will loose peoples minds from this mystical religious nonsense believes and see things like they are.


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    TR1
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    Post  TR1 Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:58 pm

    AbsoluteZero wrote:
    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Kavkaz had Islam for many years without any real problems. Wahhabism is a problem. Islam is not.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:07 am

    Kavkaz had Islam for many years without any real problems. Wahhabism is a problem. Islam is not.

    I agree Wahhabism is the problem, not Islam.
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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:41 pm

    AbsoluteZero wrote:
    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Man , you should apply for a job in washington post Twisted Evil
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:58 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    AbsoluteZero wrote:
    TR1 wrote:I don't want to be anything like Saudi Arabia.

    And they have had success in regions that have been war-town and feel marginalized post USSR collapse. I can assure you Orthodox attempts would NOT work in those areas, since they are associated with the ruling, far away authority.

    If re-Christianization doesnt work then maybe at least make efforts for de-Islamization of Russia and the near abroad. It is undeniable that the Mohammedan ideology poses a big threat not just to Russia but also the West and the rest of the non Izlamic world.

    What do you suggest?

    Man , you should apply for a job in washington post Twisted Evil
    I second that. pirat
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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:36 pm

    Russia to Fingerprint Immigrants En Masse Starting Next Year

    Russia will start fingerprinting immigrants en masse to prevent repeated entries by people who have been refused entry.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia will start fingerprinting immigrants en masse starting next year to prevent repeated entries by people who have been refused entry, local media reported Monday.

    "This measure will help detect foreigners who try to sneak into the country using a new name after they were denied entry," a source in the Federal Migration Service told the Russian Izvestia newspaper.

    Under existing regulations, migrant workers from countries that have a visa-free agreement with Moscow must have their fingerprints taken within 30 days after coming to Russia.

    "It is unclear whether this measure will be applied to all foreigners," the source told Izvestia.

    According to the information obtained by the outlet, all migrant entry points – around 400 of them across Russia – could soon be equipped with fingerprint scanners to facilitate migrant processing.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151109/1029793791/russia-fingerprint-immigrants.html#ixzz3qzdV4BGI
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:29 am

    Russian Parliament Calls for Migration Policy Changes

    A draft decision to be adopted on Friday by the Federation Council and the State Duma says that the norms of international law and Russian legislation in particular must be improved in the migration policy sphere in order to prevent the spread of terrorism.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The norms of international law and Russian legislation in particular must be improved in the migration policy sphere in order to prevent the spread of terrorism, a draft decision to be adopted on Friday by the Federation Council and the State Duma (upper and lower houses of the Russian parliament) says.

    "A reliable barrier should be put up at the state borders against the penetration of extremists into Russia," the document stresses.

    According to the Russian parliament, an international exchange of information is also crucial in the prevention of terrorist attacks and joint measures are needed to cut off support to terrorist groups.

    "Supplying terrorist groups with weapons, purchasing raw materials and objects of cultural value from them is complicity in their crimes that should be punished no less vigorously, than the actions of the militants themselves," the draft parliamentary document says.

    On Monday, French President Francois Hollande called for a broad anti-terrorism coalition including the United States and Russia to tackle the threat of Islamic State (ISIL) radicals.

    ISIL, which has ceased vast areas in Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for the November 13 terrorist attacks in Paris that killed 129 people, injuring over 300 others.

    The rise of ISIL radicals in Syria is one of the main driving factors behind a major influx of refugees from the Middle East that Europe has been dealing with.

    Ilya Rogachev, head of the Department for New Challenges and Threats (DNCT) at the Russian Foreign Ministry stressed in an interview with the Russian Kommersant newspaper that UN member-states must work on cutting off illegal oil trade carried out by ISIL, since it is a major source of their financing, according to the UN Security Council.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151120/1030429241/russia-migration-policy-changes.html#ixzz3rzk9qS00
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    Post  andalusia Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:59 am

    Why is Russia accepting South African farmers? Some of these people were probably hostile to the USSR during the 80s when the Soviet Union was an enemy of the white government of South Africa.

    https://www.rt.com/business/432375-russia-south-africa-farmers/
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:49 pm

    They are European Christian in mentality, many are very conservative. If they had been hostile yo Russia in the past, nowdays it is no longer the case.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:36 pm


    They want to come. they have money, they stated that they plan on fully integrating and assimilating, they want to purchase land and invest and work in strategic sector (agriculture) and 80's were long ago
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    Post  jhelb Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:15 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote: They are European Christian in mentality, many are very conservative. If they had been hostile yo Russia in the past, nowdays it is no longer the case.

    That's true. White European Christians are all harmless, Russian Government should accept them.

    But what about Hindus , Buddhist who come to Russia & other parts of Europe for study & for work, how dangerous/hostile are these groups ?
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:47 pm


    When was the last time anyone saw hostile Buddhist? Or Hindu?
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    Post  jhelb Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:54 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    When was the last time anyone saw hostile Buddhist? Or Hindu?

    It's extremely difficult for us to understand these Eastern religions from our European perspective. But I feel it's better to see these groups as hostile. Un controlled migration of such groups can completely change the European way of life. Already in UK, Hindu population is more than population of most European groups.

    Have you see cremation grounds in Europe or North America before ? There are several now because these groups - Hindus, Buddhist cremate their dead. Just an example of cultural displacement.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:01 pm

    If tiny Serbia can successfully assimilate middle easterners like Iranians or Libians then I'm sure Russia can handle some Hindus
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:02 pm

    Dharmic religions are extremely tolerant in their their orthodox form. Existence of a 2000 years old Christian community in India is 'nuff proof of that.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 pm

    jhelb wrote:......Un controlled migration of such groups can completely change the European way of life. Already in UK, Hindu population is more than population of most European groups.

    Have you see cremation grounds in Europe or North America before ? There are several now because these groups - Hindus, Buddhist cremate their dead. Just an example of cultural displacement.

    I forgot to add one observation: those populations​, cultures and races you mentioned have at least some basic urge to stand up for their own and look after their compatriots, unlike Whites.

    Just look at what those European Whites who are supposedly "worthy" of preserving do to their own:

    You have British and North American Whites who are still on a crusade to screw every single East European that doesn't bend over for them, French and Germans who gladly follow them without asking anything and best of all, you have assorted East European​s who are for some inexplicable reason still butthurt because they weren't exterminated during Generalplan Ost and still miss their old Aryan overlords.

    Maybe everyone should just come to terms with the fact that White race is simply not worth preserving?

    I mean take a look at their track record...
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:05 am

    ... why not?

    It is no less worthy of preserving than any other race.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:20 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:... why not?

    It is no less worthy of preserving than any other race.

    Other races treat their own bit better even if only when facing adversity

    Whites on the other hand are just being douchebags towards each other regardless of circumstances
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:53 am

    IS it destined to be like this forever? Situation is not hopeless, it can still be reversed.
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    Post  jhelb Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:57 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:I forgot to add one observation: those populations​, cultures and races you mentioned have at least some basic urge to stand up for their own and look after their compatriots, unlike Whites.

    Seriously Laughing Have you heard about the "caste system" among Hindus ? Hindus swear allegiance to their caste not to their religion and these various castes are constantly at conflict with one another. They treat members of other castes as Shit. Buddhism probably is somewhat different but even then Mongloid Buddhists ( Nepalese, Burmese etc) consider themselves superior to Buddhists from India.

    That's why I said these Eastern religions are dangerous. Just because they have not blown Whites to pieces in the streets of Europe (unlike Muslims) doesn't mean they don't plan to do so in the near future.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:11 pm

    jhelb wrote:.......
    Seriously Laughing Have you heard about the "caste system" among Hindus ? Hindus swear allegiance to their caste not to their religion and these various castes are constantly at conflict with one another.....

    I don't remember one cast genociding other wholesale

    jhelb wrote:....They treat members of other castes as Shit. Buddhism probably is somewhat different but even then Mongloid Buddhists ( Nepalese, Burmese etc) consider themselves superior to Buddhists from India....

    So?

    Whites definitely aren't any better. They took whole "being superior" concept to whole new heights.

    jhelb wrote:
    That's why I said these Eastern religions are dangerous. Just because they have not blown Whites to pieces in the streets of Europe (unlike Muslims) doesn't mean they don't plan to do so in the near future.

    Unlike Whites who have already been blowing other Whites to pieces not just on the streets of Europe but across the whole continent? For decades/centuries?

    Just because they switched to airplanes instead of guns does not make them better, just more experienced.

    Arrogant trash is arrogant trash. I will put my trust in Asians, Blacks, Buddhists of Hindus over Whites any day of the week. This is experience talking, not prejudice.
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    Post  Isos Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:12 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    jhelb wrote:.......
    Seriously Laughing Have you heard about the "caste system" among Hindus ? Hindus swear allegiance to their caste not to their religion and these various castes are constantly at conflict with one another.....

    I don't remember one cast genociding other wholesale

    jhelb wrote:....They treat members of other castes as Shit. Buddhism probably is somewhat different but even then Mongloid Buddhists ( Nepalese, Burmese etc) consider themselves superior to Buddhists from India....

    So?

    Whites definitely aren't any better. They took whole "being superior" concept to whole new heights.

    jhelb wrote:
    That's why I said these Eastern religions are dangerous. Just because they have not blown Whites to pieces in the streets of Europe (unlike Muslims) doesn't mean they don't plan to do so in the near future.

    Unlike Whites who have already been blowing other Whites to pieces not just on the streets of Europe but across the whole continent? For decades/centuries?

    Just because they switched to airplanes instead of guns does not make them better, just more experienced.

    Arrogant trash is arrogant trash. I will put my trust in Asians, Blacks, Buddhists of Hindus over Whites any day of the week. This is experience talking, not prejudice.

    There is right now a genicide in Myanmar supported by noble price.

    Japanese destroyed all asian countries less than 100 years ago. They were doing things that even nazi didn't do to Jewish.

    I spent 6 months in Thailand last year and a guy told me that in the old times they used to make wars not for lands, gold or money but only to destroy temples of the others because the country with the more temples  was concidered as the best.

    In India muslims are attacked, burned and killed on the streets every day.

    They are not better than western people. It's only stupid movies from hollywood that make them look good.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:39 pm


    I never said they are without fault. But compared to Whites they always get top marks

    Japan made mess in Asia? And what as Germany doing? And don't give me the whole "rest of Europe was against them". Only reason they objected was because they weren't going to be on top if Germans had won. And they were always couple of weeks away from joining them should things go sideways on the frontlines.

    A lot of them still can't get over it (Ukraine, Baltic, Romania, large chunks of Poland, etc...)

    As for Myanmar, everyone is weeping over some locals getting punked but nobody is talking how terrorists supported by this same locals were rampaging unchecked for decades. Time to pay the tab.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:40 pm

    War in Myanmar is not a religious war. It is a nationalist war, waged by the Burmese government against Muslim Rohingiya people AND Buddhist Karen people. It is actually the karen who are targeted more often, but media focuses solely on Rohingiya.

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