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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:22 pm

    After CBDC nonsense pushed by RCB, another potentially dangerous turn in development of Russian society. I hope that this is stopped at the level of scientific study.

    https://t.me/rusbrief/160774

    RGSU is developing a social rating system for Russians based on the Chinese model.
     University students are forced to take part in testing the “We” platform, which generates a social rating.  The authors of the project propose to link the scoring code (social rating) with SNILS, INN, passport and telephone number.  A year ago, the report openly stated that the university intended to offer a system not only to banks, but also to governors to divide citizens into classes according to their usefulness to the state: “If there are few resources, we need clear criteria for their distribution.”

    Comment from University Vice-rector:

    https://m.vk.com/wall-39683739_25785

    Vice-Rector for Scientific Activities Vasily Viktorovich Urozhenko commented on the “We” project of the Russian State Social University

     “We are extremely grateful to the respected BRIEF portal for its attention to our project “We”.  The Russian State Social University conducts many scientific projects, exploring such important problems of Russian society as demography, the institution of family, and the effectiveness of various forms of social support.

     The “We” project is one of them.  Within its framework, our scientists set the task of developing a modern social scoring system on a specially created qualimetric platform using probabilistic and statistical assessment models.  One of the results of the study will be the creation of a system that can be used by authorities at all levels and public organizations to provide prompt and objective social support to the population.  Work in this direction started more than a year ago and involves collecting certain social information from respondents who take part in the study on a voluntary basis.  We are glad that both students and faculty took part in this work.  The research part of the project will be completed in 2023.

     For RGSU, the largest social, scientific and educational center in the country, it is extremely important to prepare innovative practical tools to improve the social landscape and social engineering.  It is especially gratifying that our students express a desire to take part in current scientific developments.

     Upon completion of this research, we will present its results at a scientific conference and reflect it in a release.  We will be glad to see representatives of the media at this conference and will be grateful to them for their interest in social science in general and the Russian State Social University in particular.”
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    Post  lancelot Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:33 pm

    Ever heard of the Tsarist table of ranks?
    https://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/table-of-ranks/
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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:45 pm

    That is not at all same thing. Introduce yourself better to what social credit score system is.
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    Post  Firebird Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:55 am

    LOoks like something that emanated from those satans at the World Economic Forum.
    Universities around the World have that Davos shit endemic in them.
    China, Russia as well as the usual suspects in GATO states.

    Make no mistake, they are a huge threat to Russia. And they are clearly controlled by malignant foreign agents.

    Russia should NOT fall for this shit. It is a direct attempt to destabilise Russia and take it under globalist control.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:51 am

    Very western sounding actually... where the department in a company to handle its workers is openly called human resources... like they are shelving or furniture, or bales of hay.

    Of course it is important to dehumanise your workers because that makes it easier to insist they work harder for minimum wage.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:10 am

    I can hardly get your serious outrage. Well, some of you.
    What do you find particularly weird in a system, that promotes certain attributes and behaviors?
    If we consider that from a perspective, that it is an opening gate to free education, to begin with?
    Social engineering is not a new thing, it was carried on a wider scale multiple times all over the world.
    After the WW2, Poland was fully socially reconstructed, with peasants&workers unity in mind Laughing
    Sounds ridiculous if you don't see the idea behind it.
    It was transferring agrarian and analphabetic society to modern standards.  
    Creating, promoting, and strengthening new elites.
    How it was done? Well, by openly advocating a specified type of people. Classified by their social status, occupation, living space etc.
    You could get extra points for being a member of certain organizations and bodies.

    It ain't different now. Gender quotas, black population privileges (starting with social benefits) - it is all a part of the very same social engineering.
    What makes a difference, is the overall goal of it.

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    Post  Broski Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:38 am

    ALAMO wrote:I can hardly get your serious outrage. Well, some of you.
    It's not difficult to understand, Putin won't be Russia's president forever and Russia needs to be able to survive future leaders who are incompetent at best or compromised at worst. Having a social credit system already in place, like CBDC's, gifts the perfect tool for 5th columnists to impose their political, cultural and social values (which mirrors the EU, US, UK, Canada and Australia) on the populace with few options to protect themselves from abuse.

    Of all countries in the last 100+ years, Russia has the most extensive (and painful) experience with leaders who despised their people when the Tsar was deposed and Boshleviks seized power over the Russian empire.

    If you still don't understand, read this quote again from the article carefully.
    RGSU is developing a social rating system for Russians based on the Chinese model.
    University students are forced to take part in testing the “We” platform, which generates a social rating.  The authors of the project propose to link the scoring code (social rating) with SNILS, INN, passport and telephone number.  A year ago, the report openly stated that the university intended to offer a system not only to banks, but also to governors to divide citizens into classes according to their usefulness to the state: “If there are few resources, we need clear criteria for their distribution.”
    Does that sound like the words of a Patriot or a petty tyrant salivating for control over his countrymen?

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    Post  Scorpius Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:44 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:That is not at all same thing. Introduce yourself better to what social credit score system is.

    Lol. Currently, there is a credit rating system. There is a rating system by qualification (qualification grades), by level of education, in each taxi call application you have a rating. One guy I know was notified by the police in 2018 that he was denied access to the World Cup matches - due to the fact that he was registered for drugs more than 15 years ago (he has not used anything for more than 10 years).
    You are so afraid of the social rating system, although we ALREADY live in conditions where we somehow have a social rating. It's just that so far it's a lot of different estimates, not an integral indicator.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:04 am

    A year ago, the report openly stated that the university intended to offer a system not only to banks, but also to governors to divide citizens into classes according to their usefulness to the state: “If there are few resources, we need clear criteria for their distribution.”

    It sounds a little sinister... if you are not deemed to be useful to the state you will not get funding or support... you will be de-funded.

    This will be for commercial users and also government users of this information... and what do we know of their criteria?

    Who controls the criteria and will that criteria change over time?

    The values that are important to start with will change over time... look at all the amendments to the US constitution... most are rubbish... and of course those that are fixed are open to interpretation in any direction you please... look at how many different groups use the same bible yet are completely different...

    I would wonder if they could not set up other criteria for funding that does not involve separating people into categories... when times get really tough are the over 65s to be shot or starved to save resources?


    EDIT: I should add it was the British government under Boris Johnson who stated that Covid was a good thing to clear out some of the older less useful members of society. Did he mean Queen Elizabeth at the time? Who knows? In the US in various places old people with Covid were sent to old peoples homes for quarantine... which on reflection sounds like a cynical attempt to wipe out the aging portion of the population first. All those conspiracies about vaccines killing everyone make no sense because the rich and the powerful need smart people to continue technology and society going to keep their comfortable lives as they are. If everyone who makes 100,000 dollar watches dies how will they tell time? Vaccines were intended to be given to everyone in the west, most in the third world can't afford them or were not taking them anyway so as a conspiracy that really doesn't work because the rich and powerful in the west would not want random elimination of western people, that does not really effect the third world. They would want all the third and second world wiped out so they can send the poor in the west out to gather the resources of the rest of the world and bring it to them. Looks like they made the virus themselves in a US funded lab in China and they were the last to find solutions to the problem... they are clearly not working on defending from a viral attack, and perhaps this might have been a wakeup call that a viral attack is going to effect the west with its global transport links to the world more than many of the countries they want to target.

    Back on topic:
    Of course which is not to say categorisation and profiling of people is not already done... commercially there are credit ratings and criminal records that follow you too...


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    Post  PhSt Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:50 am

    https://t.me/rybar_in_english/8173

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    Not sure where to post this, but its hard to believe this kind of BS is happening in Russia, all of the places. Why are these thugs getting a free pass? These individuals present a clear threat to society, similar to those who assaulted the airport in Dagestan as a result of NATO psyops.

    This is what the police in Russia needs to do. Arrest these Turk Terrorists, castrate them to stop their potential to multiply, then send them to hard labor camps for a minimum stay of 50 years. When they are set free, they will be old and decrepit and will be in the ripe age to serve as fertilizer to enrich Russia's arable lands.

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    Post  par far Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:38 pm

    PhSt wrote:https://t.me/rybar_in_english/8173

    Development of Russian civil society 14565610

    Not sure where to post this, but its hard to believe this kind of BS is happening in Russia, all of the places. Why are these thugs getting a free pass? These individuals present a clear threat to society, similar to those who assaulted the airport in Dagestan as a result of NATO psyops.

    This is what the police in Russia needs to do. Arrest these Turk Terrorists, castrate them to stop their potential to multiply, then send them to hard labor camps for a minimum stay of 50 years. When they are set free, they will be old and decrepit and will be in the ripe age to serve as fertilizer to enrich Russia's arable lands.



    I hope these type of assholes are sent back, when the SMO is finished. There will be enough people available, to cover the job market.

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    Post  franco Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:45 am

    Donetsk, Nov 8 — DAN. Some 2.5 million residents of the Donetsk People’s Republic have got their Individual Insurance Account Number (SNILS) since the beginning of this year, the press service of the Social Fund Department for the DPR told the Donetsk News Agency.

    “The Social Fund issued 2,500 million SNILS cards and accepted some 400,000 documents for passport data changes in the first ten months of this year, ” the press service said.

    Earlier reports said that DPR residents can request federal benefits from the Social Fund anywhere except the Lugansk People’s Republic and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

    Russia’s Social Fund was established in the summer of 2022 in a merger between the Pension Fund and the Social Insurance Fund.

    Individual Insurance Account Number (SNILS) is used in the compulsory pension insurance system. It tracks all the amounts contributed by an employer to an employee’s individual retirement account in respect of a future pension.

    https://dan-news.ru/en/society/2.5-mln-dpr-residents-get-individual-insurance-account-number-in-2023/
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    Post  franco Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:51 pm

    MOSCOW, November 15. /TASS/. Public confidence in the results of elections in Russia has grown from 46% to 61% in three years, according to polls from the Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM), conducted in September 2021 among 1,200 adult Russians, and in August 2023, when a total of 1,600 respondents were interviewed.

    "Over three years, the level of public trust in the results of elections has increased from 46% (2021) to 61% (2023) - 1.3 times. In the August survey, 61% of Russians responded that they rather trust the results of elections, and 69% among voting adults (those who feel a duty to participate in all elections)," the report says.

    Sociologists also found out that almost 70% of voting adults in Russia think that the results of the elections in their region are legitimate and believe that they are held fairly and without serious violations. "A total of 22% stated the opposite, while one in nine found it difficult to assess the fairness of elections in their region (11%)," the study, conducted in August 2023, said.

    Over a third of the survey participants answered that they feel a duty to take part in all elections - federal, regional and local (38%), every fourth goes to the elections whenever possible (25%), about the same number of respondents go occasionally - 24%. Only every tenth admitted that they ignore elections on general principle (10%).

    https://tass.com/society/1706735

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    Post  PhSt Tue May 28, 2024 10:50 pm



    Russian government rejects niqab ban

    The measure would violate citizens’ rights and freedom of religion, the cabinet explained

    The Russian government has rejected an initiative to ban the niqab, a traditional Muslim veil that covers the entire face apart from the eyes, Kommersant reported on Monday, citing a cabinet document.

    Last week, the head of Russia’s Human Rights Council, Valery Fadeev, suggested the government should consider a ban on niqabs, citing the risk of extremism. His call came almost two months after the deadly terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall concert venue outside Moscow, in which 145 people died and over 500 were injured. The suspected perpetrators are citizens of Tajikistan, a majority-Muslim former Soviet republic in Central Asia.

    Banning the garment could violate secular rights and freedom of religion, which are guaranteed to all citizens of Russia by the constitution, according to the document cited by Kommersant. The cabinet was responding to questions submitted by Russian MPs to Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.  

    Government officials have also dismissed the idea of mandating that ethnicity be indicated in citizens' internal passports. Identity documents issued by the Soviet Union listed a citizen’s ‘nationality’, which was understood to mean ethnic origin. This practice was canceled after the collapse of the USSR in 1991; the new constitution didn’t require citizens to specify their background.

    Addressing questions from Russia’s Communist Party related to illegal migration and ethnic crimes, the government said it is planning to develop a so-called digital profile for foreign citizens in order to track migration.  

    Fadeev’s proposal met with a mixed response. The head of the State Duma’s Labor Committee, Yaroslav Nilov, said that any such measures should be discussed behind closed doors with representatives of Muslim groups and local authorities, without widespread media coverage.  

    Moscow’s chief mufti, Ildar Alyautdinov, warned that banning the niqab could cause discontent among Muslims in Russia and lead to new unrest.

    Alyautdinov told RIA Novosti last week that the Russian Muslim community would support the niqab ban only if law enforcement officials were able to prove a direct connection between wearing the niqab and the growing risk of extremism.  

    Earlier this year, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia is a “multinational and multi-religious country” that treats everyone with respect, emphasizing that some “190 ethnic groups live in the country,” some of which include “millions of people.”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/598322-russian-government-rejects-niqab-ban/



    One of the negative downsides of the SMO is that Russia has to appease Muslim sentiments by allowing this kind of backward practice. Hopefully, this is just a temporary measure, and a  Full-Force Russification of Russia and all former territories of the Soviet Union/ Russian Empire will be implemented when the right time comes.
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    Post  GarryB Wed May 29, 2024 4:51 am

    Russia is a cold country... banning head coverings would be pretty stupid wouldn't it?

    The people wanting to ban it really want to ban it for two main reasons... first that it conceals identity like a balaclava does when used by bank robbers, and second they probably think the women wearing these things are being forced to wear them by their family.

    If they think these women are being bullied by their family to do certain things then they essentially would have to ban all known religions too because wearing head scarfs is just the tip of the iceberg.

    Personally I don't really like the ninja like letter box headwear, but the open face stuff looks fine and feels comfortable.

    Hahahaha... how about a law that says you can only wear full face coverings if you are ugly... truly hideous... would be interesting to see how long the practise of wearing them continues...

    Personally I prefer the Russian government does not get into the habit of banning stuff... I mean if they don't ban alcohol or smoking or weed or McDonalds or American culture then why would they ban hats?

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    Post  sepheronx Wed May 29, 2024 5:54 am

    The thing about banning this, is it usually has the opposite effect you may want.

    In today's age, it's harder to hide things. Russian media is banned here yet there is a growth of people finding ways to still view it.

    In the end, banning it will just drive people of those Muslim regions into a fervor that isn't needed, not now.  And it may give credence to other groups to counter act it by promoting it via other methods.

    Instead, educate people.  Inform them that it is an old religious belief. Don't outright say it's abusive toward woman, just make sly remarks like "in some belief it's considered abuse towards woman in forcing them to submission".

    Educate people. People will make their own decision.  Outright promoting Islam isn't my ideal of good. We have seen what they do.  Liberalising them isn't a bad idea and slowly creep it into their society.  Egypt is an example, Jordan is another where Islam isn't exactly as forefront.

    The ones where it's full on covering head to toe and you can't see the face? That needs to be banned entirely. Huge security issue

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    Post  kvs Wed May 29, 2024 6:01 am

    I think this is basically a non-issue. The female cover clothing is basically religious like Sikh turbans. If they want to wear it, then go ahead.

    The negative thing is that such clothing is basically a fad that emerged in the last 40 years from Muslim fundamentalism stoked by the west
    via the Saudis. Russian Muslims are following foreign trends if they are using the niqab. It cannot be said to be indigenous in the north
    Caucuses, etc.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed May 29, 2024 8:04 am

    At the same time the self-proclaimed "progressive" France under Macron banned the use of Muslim clothes in schools and some brainless internet warrior claimed that it is a sign of secular state. They probably do not understand the meaning of what secular is.

    But also at the same time, these "progressive" countries fabricated brazenly hilarious lies that China, Russia, and Vietnam "violate freedom of religions". Oh yeah, such double standard hypocritical piece of censored .

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    Post  ahmedfire Wed May 29, 2024 10:14 am

    Cultured people .

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    Post  kvs Wed May 29, 2024 12:00 pm

    We know where the strife really comes from. The imperial maggot west.

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    Post  GarryB Wed May 29, 2024 2:32 pm

    The ones where it's full on covering head to toe and you can't see the face? That needs to be banned entirely. Huge security issue

    Not a lot of crime happens on Ski Fields...

    Someone walking through town with everything covered actually draws attention to themselves rather than hiding their identity...

    When you go to an Islamic country you obey their culture so you cover your arms and legs and head, so you don't need laws in Russia... just advice that covering your face is not socially acceptable most of the time.

    Full face motorcycle helmets should not be banned for instance...

    Many people have now become germophobes and will demand to be allowed to wear masks all the time...

    By banning things you push people to listen to the extremists who will tell them it is a war they have to win because they are trying to exterminate you... let moderate Muslims preach openly about a more moderate interpretation of their religion rather than the extremist shit coming from outside the country that is divisive and angry...

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