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    Post  Austin Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:46 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Austin wrote:I think the Mig UCAV design of 5 T is Skat on Lite Diet.

    It is half the weight of Skat UCAV and carries half the weapon load and they mentioned in the article that they will take inputs from Skat.

    I still don't understand why they cancelled the original Skat UCAV, I mean they gave T-50 PAK-FA program to Sukhoi, then they gave Sukhoi the UCAV contract, it's like they want Sukhoi to be overloaded with work and have Mig struggle to get funds...I know the Mig-35 is being funded but showing so much favoritism towards one design studio/bureau (Sukhoi) can't be healthy.

    Skat was like a internal project of Mig and it was hastily shown as mockup to get some attention and funding from Government it may have got the first but not the latter.

    Now the 4 new UAV/UCAV project seems to be funded by MOD , So there is a good chance it will see the light of the day as long as SAP 2020 remains funded as promised.
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    Post  Austin Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:59 am

    Inokhodets looks very similar to US Predator MQ-1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-1_Predator

    Altius-M specs is broadly similar to MQ-9 Reaper although the payload is lower compared to MQ-9 and Range is longer , Seems they have traded the 5T UAV for higher persistance.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-9_Reaper

    Gonshchik UCAV is Mig Skat on Lite Diet , Half the take off weight of Skat and Half the Payload capability and perhaps half the range 

    Okhotnik will be a large UCAV should have atleast payload of 4 T and large persistance and perhaps equally Stealthy

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    Post  Austin Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:03 am

    Russian UAV/UCAV Program ( via Air International July /Piotr Butowski )

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    Post  George1 Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:46 pm

    Russia Presents Unique Drone at Innoprom-2014 Exhibition

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    MOSCOW, July 9 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s United Instrument-Making Corporation, a Rostec subsidiary, presented the unique and innovative Chirok drone at the Innoprom international technology exhibition, the press service of the state corporation reported.

    "The innovative technology, air-cushion landing system, allows the drone to take off without an air strip. This technology is absolutely unique. The drone is able to take off from soft soil, water, marshy terrain and loose snow. It can also land on these surfaces, whereas other aircraft can neither take off from nor land on them," the press service said.

    The drone model presented at Innoprom has already been tested in Zhukovsky, a city in Moscow Region that hosts the MAKS air show. The unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) has no analogues in the world, and other models with air-cushion landing systems are not in mass production.

    In ordinary life, Chirok can be used to observe and assess different situations – to monitor the threat of fire in forests, disaster areas and road and traffic conditions, as well as for patrol. As for military utility, Chirok is intended for reconnaissance and can also be used as an offensive operations drone, capable of carrying weapons.

    Chirok’s maximum takeoff weight is up to 700 kilograms, the payload weight limit is up to 300 kilograms. The UAV can carry opto-electronic devices for various types of monitoring, and the transport of bombs, rockets and high-precision missiles. The drone can rise to a height of 6,000 meters (approximately 19,600 feet), with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers (approximately 1,550 miles). Currently, specialists at the military-industrial complex are working on further improving Chirok’s technical capabilities.

    Russia’s Innoprom is an international industrial exhibition held annually in Yekaterinburg, in the Ural Federal District. This year the exhibition opened July 9 and runs through July 12.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:19 pm

    Very clever with the air cushion undercarriage... something that shortens the lifespan of uavs is heavy landings and crash landings... being able to land on most surfaces would be very very useful especially operating in theatre.

    Vertical launch often imposes a flight performance penalty... I would imagine a naval model able to land in the sea next to a ship to be lifted on board by crane or placed in the water by crane would make it very useful too.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:54 pm

    "Teal" will go into production in 2016

    DIC CEO Alexander Yakunin told about plans to launch series production of the first Russian drone

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    Drone hovercraft called "Teal" developed by Rosteh, 2016 will be released into production. This was told by the director general of the instrument-making corporation Alexander Yakunin.

    "This type of device is designed to operate in harsh environments: in regions where there are no runways. Machine will allow to solve this problem in a wide area of ​​our great country - said Alexander Yakunin - Project we lift on the wing in 2015 and will offer customers both the civilian and military market. I think it will cause a lot of interest in the fuel and energy sector, the Ministry of Defense. We plan to put full-size sample at MAKS-2015. In a series of "Teal" will be released in 2016. "

    He noted that the drone model, presented at the exhibition was made specifically for the test in the wind tunnel on a scale of 1 to 5. Takeoff weight of the real device will be about 700 pounds.

    In 2015, the "United instrument-corporation" plans to release a full-length version of the UAV hovercraft. It will be presented during the Aviation and Space Salon MAKS.

    JSC "United instrument-corporation"  (JSC "UIC") - Russian state-owned corporation, established in 2014 as part of the State Corporation Rosteh to organize high-tech production of competitive products in the field of technology and communications systems, automated control systems, electronic security and robotic systems for the Armed Russian forces and other special units, as well as competitive products for civilian and dual-use. Unites 55 enterprises and research institutions of electronic industry in Russia.

    http://rostec.ru/news/4513930
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:55 pm

    "Teal" will go into production in 2016

    DIC CEO Alexander Yakunin told about plans to launch series production of the first Russian drone

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    Drone hovercraft called "Teal" developed by Rosteh, 2016 will be released into production. This was told by the director general of the instrument-making corporation Alexander Yakunin.

    "This type of device is designed to operate in harsh environments: in regions where there are no runways. Machine will allow to solve this problem in a wide area of ​​our great country - said Alexander Yakunin - Project we lift on the wing in 2015 and will offer customers both the civilian and military market. I think it will cause a lot of interest in the fuel and energy sector, the Ministry of Defense. We plan to put full-size sample at MAKS-2015. In a series of "Teal" will be released in 2016. "

    He noted that the drone model, presented at the exhibition was made specifically for the test in the wind tunnel on a scale of 1 to 5. Takeoff weight of the real device will be about 700 pounds.

    In 2015, the "United instrument-corporation" plans to release a full-length version of the UAV hovercraft. It will be presented during the Aviation and Space Salon MAKS.

    JSC "United instrument-corporation"  (JSC "UIC") - Russian state-owned corporation, established in 2014 as part of the State Corporation Rosteh to organize high-tech production of competitive products in the field of technology and communications systems, automated control systems, electronic security and robotic systems for the Armed Russian forces and other special units, as well as competitive products for civilian and dual-use. Unites 55 enterprises and research institutions of electronic industry in Russia.

    http://rostec.ru/news/4513930
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    Post  Strizh Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:35 pm

    I've seen several Russian drones in Ukraine. They don't look like that they were shot down they are completely intact. Any ideas how Russia managed to lose the drones???
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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:06 am

    I've seen several Russian drones in Ukraine. They don't look like that they were shot down they are completely intact. Any ideas how Russia managed to lose the drones???

    Hard to say, but minor malfunctions are common... these things are supposed to be disposable.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:32 pm

    This could get interesting ...


    A Mil Mi-8 with surprises

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    Post  Werewolf Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:11 am

    Heliborne launchable UAVs the big brothers of ZALA 423 Container UAVs.

    Would nice to see in actual launch of them.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:16 pm

    That is a Danem drone used for aerial target practise by aircraft and ground forces...
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    Post  Cpt Caz Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:47 am

     thumbsup 

    Ka-175 - Russia's new combat drone

    Russian media quoted the JSC "Kamov" spread information about new unmanned strike systems Ka-175. New UAV has a "classic" for Kamov coaxial helicopters.

    Ka-175 are planning to raise in the air throughout the year. Already created the layout and testing of nodes being the future of the machine. It is noteworthy that this is not a replacement for existing helicopters, and their organic addition:  dimensions allow transport "drone" in the cargo compartment of the mass of the helicopter Mi-8 / Mi-17 / Mi-171.

    It is also reported that the Ka-175 will be completely made of composite materials on the advanced technologies.

    New UAV can be used as a means of targeting to restore long-range missiles, based on a manned helicopter Ka-52 "Alligator". Take-off weight of the helicopter is 750 kg, in which case an opportunity to increase it.

    http://www.tehnoomsk.ru/content/%D0%BA%D0%B0-175-%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:38 pm

    Cpt Caz wrote: thumbsup 

    Ka-175 - Russia's new combat drone

    Russian media quoted the JSC "Kamov" spread information about new unmanned strike systems Ka-175. New UAV has a "classic" for Kamov coaxial helicopters.

    Ka-175 are planning to raise in the air throughout the year. Already created the layout and testing of nodes being the future of the machine. It is noteworthy that this is not a replacement for existing helicopters, and their organic addition:  dimensions allow transport "drone" in the cargo compartment of the mass of the helicopter Mi-8 / Mi-17 / Mi-171.

    It is also reported that the Ka-175 will be completely made of composite materials on the advanced technologies.

    New UAV can be used as a means of targeting to restore long-range missiles, based on a manned helicopter Ka-52 "Alligator". Take-off weight of the helicopter is 750 kg, in which case an opportunity to increase it.

    http://www.tehnoomsk.ru/content/%D0%BA%D0%B0-175-%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA


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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:13 am

    Russian Troops to Study Drone Use in Armenia

    MOSCOW, August 19 (RIA Novosti) - Over 100 Russian military personnel based in Armenia will receive unmanned aircraft control skills during a three-day field training exercise, Russia’s Southern Military District said in a press release.

    The exercises have started at Kamhud and Alagyaz alpine training centers in Armenia.

    “A feature of field training is instructing personnel on how to carry out take-off, in-flight control and landing of the advanced “Navodchik-2,” “Forpost,” “Orlan-10” and “Zastava” UAVs [Unmanned Aerial Vehicles] in a mountainous area at over 1,500 meters [0.93 miles] above sea level,” the release says.

    The press release also noted that drones are used in the interests of reconnaissance during tactical maneuvers and long marches. The units using UAVs are staffed with professional service personnel trained in specialized centers.

    Located in the Armenian city of Gyumri, Russia’s 102nd military base is part of a Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) joint air defense system. On August 2010, Russia and Armenia extended the contract for the military base until 2044, with an extension of its strategic responsibility also possible. The base is equipped with S-300 (SA-21) “Grumble” surface-to-air missile systems and Mikoyan MiG-29 “Fulcrum” fighter aircraft.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:47 pm

    Phazotron NIIR about new 3D AESA radar sets for Russian drones  thumbsup 

    AESA radars growing smaller



    Our new radar will offer a resolution of 0.5x0.5 meters. This is very close to microwave imaging, meaning that the radar image is very close to our visual perception. All objects are very clear.
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    Post  Austin Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:35 pm

    Russian military warming to UAVs
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    Post  George1 Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:02 am

    Russian Reconnaissance-Strike Drone Chirok to Begin Tests in 2015

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    GELENDZHIK, September 7 (RIA Novosti) - Russian reconnaissance and strike drone "Chirok" will begin tests in 2015, the CEO of the Moscow Research Radio Engineering Institute Yuri Nevzorov told RIA Novosti on Sunday.

    "After the new year , we will launch the test. We have three models of the aircraft in total,” said Nevzorov during the 10th Anniversary of the International Gidroaviasalon exhibition in Gelendzhik, Russia.

    He also noted that "Chirok" will perform test flights in 2015 during the International Aviation and Space Salon (MAKS) in Zhukovsky a city in Moscow Oblast.

    Nevzorov claimed that the drone will be used as a carrier for electronic warfare systems.

    The aircraft was presented to the United instrument Corporation (UIC), a member of the corporation, Rostec, during the global trade fair, INNOPROM, held in Ekaterinburg from July 9 to 12.

    In ordinary life, Chirok can be used to observe and assess different situations – to monitor the threat of fire in forests, disaster areas and road and traffic conditions, as well as for patrol. As for military utility, Chirok is intended for reconnaissance and can also be used as an offensive operations drone, capable of carrying weapons.

    Chirok’s maximum takeoff weight is up to 700 kilograms, the payload weight limit is up to 300 kilograms. The UAV can carry opto-electronic devices for various types of monitoring, and the transport of bombs, rockets and high-precision missiles. The drone can rise to a height of 6,000 meters (approximately 19,600 feet), with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers (approximately 1,550 miles).
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    Post  Mike E Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:07 am

    It will be very interesting to see this thing fly... That being said, it looks very advanced!
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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:42 pm

    UAV test sites will be created in Russia
    Russian Aviaton » Wednesday September 17, 2014 16:18 MSK

    The specialized UAV test ranges will be created in Russia soon. Igor Denisov, Deputy Director General of the Russian Foundation for Advanced Research Projects in the Defense Industry, told ITAR-TASS about it at the Military-industrial conference.

    "The Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade are considering the possibilities for creating UAV test sites", - he said without specifying the project completion date.

    Denisov also noted that Russia is developing new combat UAVs, but the development is at an early stage. "The problem is that a decision to destroy a target is made by a human anyway. In this regard the concept of UAVs able to seek out and destroy targets by themselves is more like fiction", - the Deputy Director General said.

    He reminded that Russia has remotely-controlled equipment fitted with weapons; however, the range of missions carried out by these systems is not so wide compared to analogues operated by USA. "We are developing and upgrading the combat vehicles, but unfortunately this is a small-series production. On the other hand, there are a lot of products, which are not combat UAVs, but feature the same principles – cruise missiles and guided projectiles", - Denisov explained.

    The Russian Foundation for Advanced Research Projects in the Defense Industry is working closely with Russian Ministry of Defense in terms of development of advanced UAVs of different types. "We are not duplicating the current State Arms Program, we are developing a scientific and technological advance for future state programs", - he added.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:25 pm

    WoW .... hope we will see it soon. thumbsup

    MODEL 20-TON RUSSIAN ATTACK DRONE IS READY
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    Post  r111 Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:33 pm

    Looks mean enough. But it is more for all-out super-power warfare. And I still beleive Russian wont fight this kind of war, it will go nuclear instead.

    I think US has proven the value of UAVs in fighting counter-insurgency type of warfare. Collateral aside (~1400 deaths as result of targeting ~40 individuals according the latest news, dubious at best), ability to disrupt bad guys by having lethal birds that can't be seen/heard and can hover for a day and strike with precision munitions, we could use that. We have a number of hot zones that could use a few of these overhead, 7x24.

    A number of reasons have delayed our UAV development. With renewed focus now alive and well, we need sensors and comsat capabilities. Both could technically be unified to where u can place same HW on a range of different UAVs, from Predator-types to Global Hawk-type air frames.

    We flew Buran (think Shuttle), all the way to space and back, on full auto, 30 years ago now. We have the minds, the air frame know how, we have weapons. Basic laser designator is 95% of what is needed to destroy bad guys we're after.

    A nice ~40 kg sensor pod platform, stabilized, optical/UV/microwave that can see a human from 4-6km away. Few mpbs BW to a bird and from there, to control center anywhere in the world, with low enough of a latency. Well under 1 mpbs for control comms to the UAV. And then we can tango.

    Com sat constellation is expensive. UAVs fly high enough to where line-of-sight distance is well over 200km. But then you'd need insane transmitter power aboard, relay towers and you'd light up the whole area with RF, bad guys would know u r there.

    A small sat dish shooting skyward is much more discreet, can not be intercepted/jammed nearly as easily.



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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:42 am

    A nice ~40 kg sensor pod platform, stabilized, optical/UV/microwave that can see a human from 4-6km away.

    More like 20-25km away... these drones will operate 10-15km up...
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:32 am

    The main focus of UAVs for the Russians will be data collection and recon, to feed data into their battle management systems.

    without accurate and timely information a BMS is next to useless, but who wants to risk their life sticking their head over a fence to see where the enemy is?

    Send a robot... whether on the ground, in the air, or in the water.

    More experience with UAVs and indeed UCAVs will make the Russian military more aware and reduce the risk to life and limb to find out where the enemy is and what they are doing.
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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:24 am

    Russia Creates UAV Unit in Far East

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