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    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:49 pm

    In Kolomna, Moscow suburbs started the first center of the Ministry of Defense of unmanned aircraft

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    Post  AbsoluteZero on Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:17 am

    Russian Army to Receive Corsair Surveillance Drones in Late 2016

    I wonder if these corsairs are the same as the Orlan-10s?
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    Post  medo on Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:55 pm

    AbsoluteZero wrote:Russian Army to Receive Corsair Surveillance Drones in Late 2016

    I wonder if these corsairs are the same as the Orlan-10s?

    I doubt, because Orlan-10 is already in production and in armament. Most probably just example pictures.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:54 pm

    Sample of Hovercraft Drone “Chirok” Ready for Testing

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    The first full-length sample of reconnaissance and strike Russian hovercraft UAV “Chirok” is preparing for test flights, a source in the United instrument-making corporation (part of Rostec) said.

    “Last year the layout of “Chirok” was presented at the scale of 1:5, and now the full-scale model is ready with the wingspan of ten meters. Now the “Chirok” is brought to the mind and is preparing for the flight tests,” the source said to TASS.

    We recall that innovative unmanned aerial vehicle “Chirok” has been presented in July last year at the international exhibition of technologies “Innoprom”. It is noted that the device has no analogues in the world; the hovercraft drones are not commercially available.


    Russia Develops Two New Drones, Ready for Testing

    The Russian United Instrument Corporation has constructed two new "Chirok" drones, they are ready for testing, a source at UIC told RIA Novosti Friday.

    MOSCOW, January 23 (Sputnik) — The Russian United Instrument Corporation (UIC) has constructed two prototype versions of reconnaissance and strike drones, code-named "Chirok," and is currently preparing them for tests, a source at UIC told RIA Novosti Friday.

    The source explained that currently there are three models of reconnaissance and strike drones (RSD) "Chirok." One of these is a mock-up copy, two others are full-sized models with a payload weight limit of up to 300 kilograms. At the moment they are being prepared for flight tests, the source told RIA Novosti.

    One of the full-size copies could be presented in summer 2015 during the International Aviation and Space Salon (MAKS), in Zhukovsky city, in the Moscow Region, the source said.

    RSD Chirok was developed by the Moscow Research Radio Engineering Institute. The maximum takeoff weight of the drone is 700 kilograms. The drone can rise to a height of 6,000 meters (approximately 19,600 feet), and has a range of up to 2,500 kilometers (approximately 1,550 miles). Chirok can carry weapons inside the fuselage, improving aerodynamics and stealth characteristics.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:13 am

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/57658/

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    The production version of the Russia's new heavy UAV is ready!



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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:13 am

    In Russia, was created a heavy UAV capable of performing reconnaissance missions and to destroy the detected targets.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:43 am

    George1 wrote:In Russia, was created a heavy UAV capable of performing reconnaissance missions and to destroy the detected targets.

    It's the same article but with the wrong photo. The MiG "Skat" is a cancelled project.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:59 am

    kvs wrote:
    George1 wrote:In Russia, was created a heavy UAV capable of performing reconnaissance missions and to destroy the detected targets.

    It's the same article but with the wrong photo.   The MiG "Skat" is a cancelled project.

    Yes you are right. I will try to find more details for all the projects mentioned
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:47 am

    Altius-M project

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:43 am

    Now that Russia is introducing UCAVs it is only a matter of time before the US claims there needs to be international law controlling the use of armed drones and the new laws will restrict everyone elses use of drones...
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    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:44 am

    UAV Orlan-10 in Crimean units

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    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:29 pm

    Russia’s CMD to Take Delivery of New Drones
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    Post  par far on Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:09 am

    When will Russia have high tec armed drones?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:21 am

    For the Russian forces they already have long range tactical missiles with excellent accuracy and all weather capability so armed drones would not be as much use as multi sensor equipped drones able to find targets and transmit their locations in real time.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:06 am

    GarryB wrote:For the Russian forces they already have long range tactical missiles with excellent accuracy and all weather capability so armed drones would not be as much use as multi sensor equipped drones able to find targets and transmit their locations in real time.

    Timing is everything.. Long range missiles could be accurate with the proper technology but still they will need
    to travel a long distance and by the time they arrive it could be too late..  

    Armed drones in the other hand could be very useful for urban warfare..and only take seconds to bomb its target.
    where you need high precision attacks and target a terrorist moving from one building to another or driving a car. in a populated zones.. in the case of the longe range tatical missiles they will not be ideal for that job. I used to think Russia had attack drones but if not.. thats not good.. they are priceless for fighting terrorism , the price also is much cheaper of a hellfire like missile or a drone carrying Kornets guided by lazer vs a tactical long range cruise missile .

    In a a urban warfare scenario where the terrorist have modern manpads.. it will be risky to fly combat planes at visual distance...aside they make a lot noise.. to warn terrorist of when they need to hide.. Drones in the other hand are silent .and not notices until very late.. Attack drones should be a priority for Russia.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:23 am

    Armed drones in the other hand could be very useful for urban warfare..and only take seconds to bomb its target.
    where you need high precision attacks and target a terrorist moving from one building to another or driving a car. in a populated zones.. in the case of the longe range tatical missiles they will not be ideal for that job. I used to think Russia had attack drones but if not.. thats not good.. they are priceless for fighting terrorism , the price also is much cheaper of a hellfire like missile or a drone carrying Kornets guided by lazer vs a tactical long range cruise missile .

    In a a urban warfare scenario where the terrorist have modern manpads.. it will be risky to fly combat planes at visual distance...aside they make a lot noise.. to warn terrorist of when they need to hide.. Drones in the other hand are silent .and not notices until very late.. Attack drones should be a priority for Russia.

    The Russian Army is not intended to fight "terrorists" in urban environments... that would be a job of the FSB in in Russian republics the Interior ministry.

    Regarding drones being priceless for fighting terrorism... it seems to me US drones have killed a lot of people they claim are terrorists, but also a lot of other people it calls collateral damage.

    A modern fighter with modern EO systems like the Su-35 and MiG-35 and indeed the PAK FA will all have built in targeting systems comparable to modern podded systems like Damocles and Lightening III, so finding targets and also hitting them should not really be a problem... and from a platform fully able to defend itself if things turn hairy... flying at above 10,000m altitude and no one on the ground would see or hear a Flanker or Fulcrum scanning for targets, while the kinetic energy of a bomb falling that far would be enormous... even a 50kg bomb might not even need a warhead... fill it with darts and have a bursting charge explode 1,000m above the target to shower the area with hypersonic darts...
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    Post  George1 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:40 pm

    Russian Kalashnikov Concern to Produce Drones – Company’s CEO

    Things just got real: Russian Kalashnikov Concern will now produce drones that would be used for border control, reconnaissance and special missions, said the company's CEO Alexey Krivoruchko.

    ABU DHABI (Sputnik) — Russian Kalashnikov Concern decided to create a joint venture producing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), the company’s CEO Alexey Krivoruchko said Sunday at International Defense Exhibition IDEX 2015 in Abu Dhabi.

    “We made a decision to purchase a share and to create a joint venture to produce reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles on the basis of Kalashnikov Concern and Russian company ZALA Aero,” Krivoruchko said.

    Kalashnikov UAVs will be used for border control, reconnaissance and special missions, he added. The companies are also planning development and production of UAVs for the purposes of monitoring emergency situations and dangerous objects, geodetic research in harsh climate conditions.

    The concern will also produce landing crafts, search and rescue and pleasure boats under Kalashnikov brand, Krivoruchko said. Those boats will be used for anti-piracy and counter-terrorism missions, unprepared beach landing operations, search and rescue missions.

    Kalashnikov Concern, founded in 1807, is one of the largest companies in weapons manufacturing field. The company's best known product is the Kalashnikov assault rifle, used in service of over 100 countries.

    The concern supplies its products to 27 countries around the world, including the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, Norway, Italy and Canada.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150222/1018589973.html#ixzz3SU7TBEFS
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    Post  victor1985 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:13 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    GarryB wrote:For the Russian forces they already have long range tactical missiles with excellent accuracy and all weather capability so armed drones would not be as much use as multi sensor equipped drones able to find targets and transmit their locations in real time.

    Timing is everything.. Long range missiles could be accurate with the proper technology but still they will need
    to travel a long distance and by the time they arrive it could be too late..  

    Armed drones in the other hand could be very useful for urban warfare..and only take seconds to bomb its target.
    where you need high precision attacks and target a terrorist moving from one building to another or driving a car. in a populated zones.. in the case of the longe range tatical missiles they will not be ideal for that job. I used to think Russia had attack drones but if not.. thats not good.. they are priceless for fighting terrorism , the price also is much cheaper of a hellfire like missile or a drone carrying Kornets guided by lazer vs a tactical long range cruise missile .

    In a a urban warfare scenario where the terrorist have modern manpads.. it will be risky to fly combat planes at visual distance...aside they make a lot noise.. to warn terrorist of when they need to hide.. Drones in the other hand are silent .and not notices until very late.. Attack drones should be a priority for Russia.

    point is not to be manned or unmanned for terorists. Point is to have intelligent and accurate missiles. The real advantages of the UAVs are this: can stay long time above a target and very important they support high G turns wich a manned plane pilot cant support. Also you dont need cockpit so there are different calculations for weight, equipment carried, stealth etc
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    Post  medo on Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:40 pm

    http://vpk.name/news/127278_v_kazani_podnyali_pervyii_v_rossii_tyazhelyii_bespilotnik.html

    Пятитонный «Альтаир», который сможет держаться в воздухе 12 часов, создается для армии и ФСБ

    По данным источников «БИЗНЕС Online», созданный ОКБ им. Симонова беспилотный летательный аппарат (БПЛА) совершил первый подлет. Испытания проходили на аэродроме Казанского авиационного завода им. Горбунова (КАЗ). Вскоре после этого руководство министерства обороны, не вдаваясь в подробности и не приводя названий, сообщило о том, что в России создан тяжелый БПЛА.

    Russian heavy UAV Altair made its first flight in Kazan.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:13 am

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    Wow... compared with the Tu-22M3 next to it it is a pretty large aircraft...!
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    Post  Flanky on Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:13 pm

    GarryB wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 12 Altair10

    Wow... compared with the Tu-22M3 next to it it is a pretty large aircraft...!
    It was about time...
    Now let them do some period of testing and send it to Syria or Iraq.
    They need to send it to the battlezone to see how it will behave in real battle conditions.
    Unfortunately Americans have a lot of drone experience which Russians needs to close the gap fast.
    So perhaps it would not be a bad thing to make a export version of the plane and lend it to Syrian Army to use it as strategic and tactical reconnaisance.
    I would say Syrian Army badly needs such a vehicle and Russians needs feedback from real missions...
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:03 am

    If Russia sent them to Syria I am sure the US AF would take great pride in trying to shoot them down in revenge for the UAVs lost in the past....

    I would say organise an agreement with Afghanistan where the drones operate over Afghanistan and share their data with the Afghans while giving Russian operators experience in using them.

    They could clear any weapons use with the afghans in real time but the whole setup could be based in Russia.
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    Post  Flanky on Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:08 am

    Well i would say that Syria is a better choice exactly because what you said.
    If there would have been no threat to the vehicle, its survivability characteristics would not have been tested and im pretty sure even HALE UAVs have thoose.
    But in any case be it Afghanistan or Syria both choices are still better than just domestic trials.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:47 am

    The problem with operating them in Syria is that they might get shot down from extremely long range without any warning... the result being the loss of the aircraft and no experience gained.

    Even expensive mature UAVs from the US, UK, Israel etc etc have been shot down... if you want something that is invulnerable then you need to look for something else.

    UAVs are ultimately expendible but are to expensive to be just sent on suicide missions.

    I think using it in Afghanistan in cooperation with the Afghans based in Russian territory will gain real experience for the Russian operators, will benefit the Afghans in terms of intelligence without the risk of losing a lot of UAVs.

    When everyone has had a go and the technology matures a bit then using them in Iraq and Syria will be an option... but I would wait till they are UCAVs and can defend themselves.
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:57 am

    Todays UAV's only defense against threats is they can fly at high altitude, meaning they are only protected against MANPADS, everything else like a military even with old F-86 Sabre could take it down without much of problems, not to mention there is already two countries close to Syrian boarder that wish Syria only ill, that would be Israel and Turkey and they would and have done already air strikes against Syrian military, same as US from Saudi Arabia, waste of money, they need something to protect themselfs from this dictatorships and aggressors.

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