TR1 Sat May 02, 2015 10:24 pm
kvs wrote:The BS revisionism TR1 is peddling is that "Russia" doesn't have the capability. The facts are something else.
The 1990s economic implosion under the US-backed Yeltsin regime halted many projects dead in their tracks
and degraded Russia's economy and productive capacity by over 50%. In the case of the military it was
actually closer to 80%. I am talking about productive capacity and not existing equipment and
underpaid men experiencing long term disappearance of military capacity like in Ukraine.
Clearly, only a hater troll would conflate the economic disruption with "Russia's ability". Thanks to Putin's undoing
of Yeltsin's nightmare Russia has managed to restore its productive capacity to a high level. It is less than it was
in the good old days in some ways, but better in others. It took about 8 years from 2000 to 2008 to restore Russia's
productive capacity to a reasonable level so you have do add an additional few years for project delay. A good
15 years of project paralysis is what Russia experienced.
A 15 year delay in construction due to the post 1991 transition has no relevance for any project started
after 2008 and today. TR1 was already attacking me for posting that the six Project 636.3 diesel-electric subs
would be finished as planned with his usual pulled from the a** truthiness and chutzpah. Eat this:
http://www.janes.com/article/42571/russia-launches-third-improved-kilo-submarine-commissions-first
Three of them delivered already last year.
You have an amazing ability to be wrong every time you post.
1.)I said Russia takes longer to build the big ships, and that is the reality. End. Of.Story. Unless funding magically explodes, it won't be making boats much faster.
2.) Three kilos were NOT delivered. Only two. Delivery occurs after trials. You would know this if you have any clue what you were babbling about.
3.) Take a nice hard look at the period of construction for the Kilos.
The first took 39 months.
The second 31 months.
Hell, even by now we are down to a good figure, under two years.....thats the time it takes the US to make and commission a MUCH LARGER nuclear boat.
RUSSIA STRONG11!11111
And the notion that the same massive increases in speed that happened with Kilos, will happen with 955s and 885s are the kool-aid of children.
The diseal boats were constantly under production for export, are a well mastered series, and are tiny and cheap in comparison.
Once again, for you extra-slow folks:
yes, the construction speed of the 955s and 885s will be faster than the first half of the series.
No, it wont be as fast as the US pumps out the Virginias.