Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

People need to see this.. When American media no longer works.. now the same propaganda
goes into video games..  

Check Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3..
by the developer ?    
CI games..    


Guess who are the good guys?   Americans and NATO forces..
Guess who are the bad guys ?    Russia and Syria Government forces..

with just one minor difference.. the name does not mention the Cannibals terrorist
that the "good guys" are allied and support..

According to the developers own words.. The game is based on an American special forces
and NATO who infiltrate behind the lines illegally into a Syrian "civil war" to fight a Proxy war against Russia.  



What is the aim of this propaganda ? To contaminate the mind of millions of teens who not even watch news of barely..but play video games and made them believe that is cool ,what American Government is doing today in middle east... and told them.. this..

Notice how the game not even mention the very fact that American government is arming terrorist. is totally hidden.. no no.. Such small details are not in the game.. for obvious reasons that will not help the anti Russian propaganda. Its interesting how they omit the details ,that are more embarrassing and criminal of how really American special forces operate. and not so good guys.. in real world.

This is a classic example of how US congress money ,is used to brainwash the american and European society. .the flag of the "bad guys" is guess what? very close to the Russian flag.
and in the game you need to kill many Russians..  This is what i replied there..

Since this game likes to touch politics.. of the real world.. US special forces fighting a proxy war against Russia.. American the good guys and  Russia bad..why not include in this game the fact
that American Special Forces side with jihadist terrorist ,Alqaeda and ISIS that are killing civilians? against a nation that have done nothing to them ? Wouldn't that be fun and more realistic? that will make it very real ,exactly what is happening in the world today.
What happens today is American Propaganda not only now in the media but also in video games.. making it look that what they do is cool , ie.. destroy the life of millions with their support for extremist for Imperialism.

The aim of this propaganda in video games is to sell to young people the idea that
US Government wars are "fun" and "cool"..and to make video gamers which will be future soldiers to get used to this..proxy wars. that is fun and cool. that is something normal. US and NATO actions in the world. At least this time they don't target civilians.. there is Medal of Honor games a mission that you need to kill many Russians..civilians ,were you are a CIA officer ,helping chechens.. in Russia and in the game you are allowed to take a machine gun and shoot at civilians women and children in a Russian airport. Interestenly the same airport of the game was target of a terrorist attack later in Russia. None of this things happens by "coincidence" we are witnessing more and more a real hostility of Anglozionist mafia against Russia and now more than ever more active promoting terrorism against Russia and Russian allies.

I think is time for RUssia video game industry to fight back and take realism for real..and
reveal in video games exactly the way things are.. in the world.. how the west action cause misery in the life of millions , only to raise awareness world wide on new generations that
US wars are "not fun".. "not cool".. and not the good guys at all.

sepheronx wrote:Russian aircraft briefly entered Turkish airspace due to bad weather — defense ministry

I don't get it.  Su-30SM has Glonass Navigation, does it not?  If so, then wouldn't, in bad weather, they would be able to keep an eye on the glonass and figure it out their position?  Or is that how they figured out to correct their positions?

You need to look at the borders of Turkey vs Syria.. is not a straight line..
very curvy and irregular.. So is very easy to enter the space of turkey if your flying fast also your
glonass navigation could not have precise borders borders of Syria and turkey updated. that have to be done by hand.. satellites does not know about politics ,they only see a big land mass..

Russian aircraft briefly entered Turkish airspace due to bad weather — defense ministry

I don't get it.  Su-30SM has Glonass Navigation, does it not?  If so, then wouldn't, in bad weather, they would be able to keep an eye on the glonass and figure it out their position?  Or is that how they figured out to correct their positions?

It is good that people don't get it, because there is virtually no truth behind the various reports by the minipaxs about "this event".

You guys don't really believe the "official" reason, do you? Very likely there's a completely different side to this story.

Vann7 wrote:People need to see this.. When American media no longer works.. now the same propaganda
goes into video games... Check Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3... by the developer ? CI games...

The game is yet to be published but the plot takes place in modern-day Georgia; CI Games, the developer and publisher of Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3, is Polish; and the sales of the 2 previous games on the series were better in Europe than in the US.

And at least watch what you post:

Seconds 28 to 43 of the video: "... so, you're an american special forces operative illegally behind enemy lines in the country of Georgia, the United States and NATO, is fighting a proxy war against Russia trough the civil war it's taking place in this country..."

Iran troops to join Syria war, Russia bombs group trained by CIA

Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria to join a major ground offensive in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government, Lebanese sources said on Thursday, a sign the civil war is turning still more regional and global in scope.

Russian warplanes, in a second day of strikes, bombed a camp run by rebels trained by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, the group's commander said, putting Moscow and Washington on opposing sides in a Middle East conflict for the first time since the Cold War.

Senior U.S. and Russian officials spoke for just over an hour by secure video conference on Thursday, focusing on ways to keep air crews safe, the Pentagon said, as the two militaries carry out parallel campaigns with competing objectives.

"We made crystal clear that, at a minimum, the priority here should be the safe operation of the air crews over Syria," Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said.

Two Lebanese sources told Reuters hundreds of Iranian troops had reached Syria in the past 10 days with weapons to mount a major ground offensive. They would also be backed by Assad's Lebanese Hezbollah allies and by Shi'ite militia fighters from Iraq, while Russia would provide air support.

"The vanguard of Iranian ground forces began arriving in Syria -soldiers and officers specifically to participate in this battle. They are not advisers ... we mean hundreds with equipment and weapons. They will be followed by more," one of the sources said.

So far, direct Iranian military support for Assad has come mostly in the form of military advisers. Iran has also mobilized Shi'ite militia fighters, including Iraqis and some Afghans, to fight alongside Syrian government forces.

Moscow said it had hit Islamic State positions, but the areas it struck near the cities of Hama and Homs are mostly held by a rival insurgent alliance, which unlike Islamic State is supported by U.S. allies including Arab states and Turkey.

Hassan Haj Ali, head of the Liwa Suqour al-Jabal rebel group that is part of the Free Syrian Army, told Reuters one of the targets was his group's base in Idlib province, struck by about 20 missiles in two separate raids. His fighters had been trained by the CIA in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, part of a program Washington says is aimed at supporting groups that oppose both Islamic State and Assad.

"Russia is challenging everyone and saying there is no alternative to Bashar," Haj Ali said. He said the Russian jets had been identified by members of his group who once served as Syrian air force pilots.

The group is one of at least three foreign-backed FSA rebel factions to say they had been hit by the Russians in the last two days.

At the United Nations, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told a news conference Moscow was targeting Islamic State. He did not specifically deny that Russian planes had attacked Free Syrian Army facilities but said Russia did not view it as a terrorist group and viewed it as part of a political solution in Syria.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/us-mideast-crisis-russia-syria-idUSKCN0RV41O20151002

Assad allies, including Iranians, prepare ground attack in Syria: sources

Syria's President Bashar al-Assad answers questions during an interview with al-Manar's journalist Amro Nassef, in Damascus, Syria, in this handout photograph released by Syria's national news agency SANA on August 25, 2015. REUTERS/SANA/Handout via Reuters
Syria's President Bashar al-Assad answers questions during an interview with al-Manar's

Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria in the last 10 days and will soon join government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies in a major ground offensive backed by Russian air strikes, two Lebanese sources told Reuters.

"The (Russian) air strikes will in the near future be accompanied by ground advances by the Syrian army and its allies," said one of the sources familiar with political and military developments in the conflict.

"It is possible that the coming land operations will be focused in the Idlib and Hama countryside," the source added.

The two sources said the operation would be aimed at recapturing territory lost by President Bashar al-Assad's government to rebels.


It points to an emerging military alliance between Russia and Assad's other main allies - Iran and Hezbollah - focused on recapturing areas of northwestern Syria that were seized by insurgents in rapid advances earlier this year.

"The vanguard of Iranian ground forces began arriving in Syria: soldiers and officers specifically to participate in this battle. They are not advisors ... we mean hundreds with equipment and weapons. They will be followed by more," the second source said. Iraqis would also take part in the operation, the source said.

Thus far, direct Iranian military support for Assad has come mostly in the form of military advisors. Iran has also mobilized Shi'ite militia fighters, including Iraqis and some Afghans, to fight alongside Syrian government forces.

Lebanon's Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran, has been fighting alongside the Syrian army since early in the conflict.


The Russian air force began air strikes in Syria on Wednesday, targeting areas near the cities of Homs and Hama in the west of the country, where Assad's forces are fighting an array of insurgent groups, though not Islamic State, which is based mostly in the north and east.

An alliance of insurgent groups including the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front and powerful Ahrar al-Sham made rapid gains in Idlib province earlier this year, completely expelling the government from the area bordering Turkey.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/01/us-mideast-crisis-syria-iranians-exclusi-idUSKCN0RV4DN20151001

Syrian rebels call for regional alliance against Russia and Iran

More than 40 Syrian insurgent groups including the powerful Islamist faction Ahrar al-Sham have called on regional states to forge an alliance against Russia and Iran in Syria, accusing Moscow of occupying the country and targeting civilians.

The insurgents, including rebel groups under the umbrella of the Free Syria Army, said such regional cooperation was needed to counter "the Russian-Iranian alliance occupying Syria".

Last week Russian jets based in western Syria launched air strikes against targets Moscow has identified as bases of the hardline Islamic State group, but which President Bashar al-Assad's opponents say disproportionately hit rival, foreign-backed insurgents.

The joint rebel statement criticized what it described as the "Russian military aggression in Syria and the blatant occupation of the country" as well as the targeting of civilians with air strikes in the Homs countryside in western Syria.

"Civilians have been directly targeted in a manner that reminds us of the scorched earth policy pursued by Russia in its past wars," the statement said, without specifying.

The statement, sent to Reuters by Ahrar al-Sham, did not name which regional states it was addressing but Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar have backed the insurgency against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The 41 groups which signed the statement did not include Islamic State or al Qaeda's Syria wing Nusra Front, which is in an insurgent coalition with Ahrar al-Sham that captured most of Idlib province in the northwest.

Insurgents have renewed calls for their Arab backers to supply them with more powerful weapons such as anti-aircraft systems in light of the Russian intervention in the war but Monday's statement appeared to be the most concerted rebel call for action against Russia's move.

Dozens of Islamist Saudi Arabian clerics, not affiliated with the government, earlier called on Arab and Muslim countries to "give all moral, material, political and military" support to what they term a jihad, or holy war, against Syria's government and its Iranian and Russian backers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-rebels-idUSKCN0RZ18F20151005

and now Americans and Turkey threatening to shoot down Russian planes..
How many bet this will be a war if they do it?
The conditions for a war is there.. the thing here is that Russia need to get Americans planes
and Not turkey.. so it cannot be proxy. Russia at some point will need to declare a no Coalition
zone over Syria.  

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151006/1028085238/russia-turkey-airspace-violation.html


US wants to use Turkey as a proxy fight against Russia small airforce in Syria , but Russia can
pull americans into a direct confrontation which will be much better.. If Russia defeats a few
americans planes it will be enough to stop their air flights over Syria.. But this might in the end
allow americans justify more blackmail to Europe for more sanctions.

So Russia cannot pick a fight with Turkey invading its airspace..because the west will have an easier time justifying Turkey actions.. if Russia picks a fight needs to be inside Syria. So Russia is in a better position to explain.. but for This Syrian Government needs to openly demand in public that any American or Coalition plane that invades Syria airspace will be shot down..
by them.. and that no longer will allow any flights over the fake anti ISIS coalition over Syria.

About the news of IRAN.. imho.. they are very late in the show.. they should have been helping
Syria with its army since the start..there is a supposed military alliance between them ,and turkey army invaded IDLIB since early year.. and still today IRAN is in "preparations" and preparations and coordinations.. i just hope they don't send just a few hundreds Iranians to fight..and instead send a real big army to Syria.

JohninMK wrote:
You mean the RuAF making it totally clear to the Turks that there is no cordon sanitaire south of the actual Turkish border for the 'activists' and that incoming supplies and outgoing oil will be 'dealt' with?

No, they (US et al.) wish it would have been just like what you said; the reality for them has been a lot harsher than that.

Kerry eventually sees the truth of the difference between Russia as personified by Maria Zakharova, and America by Marie Harf

That one woman looks like Garth from Waynes World.

Latakia.

Vann7 wrote:and now Americans and Turkey threatening to shoot down Russian planes..
How many bet this will be a war if they do it?
The conditions for a war is there.. the thing here is that Russia need to get Americans planes
and Not turkey.. so it cannot be proxy. Russia at some point will need to declare a no Coalition
zone over Syria.  

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151006/1028085238/russia-turkey-airspace-violation.html


US wants to use Turkey as a proxy fight against Russia small airforce in Syria , but Russia can
pull americans into a direct confrontation which will be much better.. If Russia defeats a few
americans planes it will be enough to stop their air flights over Syria.. But this might in the end
allow americans justify more blackmail to Europe for more sanctions.

So Russia cannot pick a fight with Turkey invading its airspace..because the west will have an easier time justifying Turkey actions.. if Russia picks a fight needs to be inside Syria. So Russia is in a better position to explain.. but for This Syrian Government needs to openly demand in public that any American or Coalition plane that invades Syria airspace will be shot down..
by them.. and that no longer will allow any flights over the fake anti ISIS coalition over Syria.

About the news of IRAN.. imho.. they are very late in the show.. they should have been helping
Syria with its army since the start..there is a supposed military alliance between them ,and turkey army invaded IDLIB since early year.. and still today IRAN is in "preparations" and preparations and coordinations.. i just hope they don't send just a few hundreds Iranians to fight..and instead send a real big army to Syria.

Iran is in Syria since the beggining. They have been pushing back since 2012. The level of commitment was scaled down to get the Nuclear deal done. Now it's back to business. Or so I hope.

Plenty of nice short clips of helicopters - https://twitter.com/MuradoRT

https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/651386823978188800

https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/651389790236094464

https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/651389864076779521

https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/651389875258826752

Russia will consider any request from Iraq to launch strikes against ISIL. If this occurs it really will be a total humiliation for America and show that Russia is now clearing up decades of their malicious interference in the Arab world. https://www.rt.com/politics/317764-russia-ready-to-consider-iraqi/

It is interesting, that Russia bring old Mi-24P helicopters in Syria. I think these helicopters will stay in Syrian air force after this operation will be over. I doubt Russia will take them back home. They are replacing them with new, modern helicopters.

Vann7 wrote:People need to see this.. When American media no longer works.. now the same propaganda
goes into video games..  

Check Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3..
by the developer ?    
CI games..    


Guess who are the good guys?   Americans and NATO forces..
Guess who are the bad guys ?    Russia and Syria Government forces..

with just one minor difference.. the name does not mention the Cannibals terrorist
that the "good guys" are allied and support..

According to the developers own words.. The game is based on an American special forces
and NATO who infiltrate behind the lines illegally into a Syrian "civil war" to fight a Proxy war against Russia.  



What is the aim of this propaganda ? To contaminate the mind of millions of teens who not even watch news of barely..but play video games and made them believe that is cool ,what American Government is doing today in middle east... and told them.. this..

Notice how the game not even mention the very fact that American government is arming terrorist. is totally hidden.. no no.. Such small details are not in the game.. for obvious reasons that will not help the anti Russian propaganda. Its interesting how they omit the details ,that are more embarrassing and criminal of how really American special forces operate. and not so good guys.. in real world.

This is a classic example of how US congress money ,is used to brainwash the american and European society. .the flag of the "bad guys" is guess what? very close to the Russian flag.
and in the game you need to kill many Russians..  This is what i replied there..

Since this game likes to touch politics.. of the real world.. US special forces fighting a proxy war against Russia.. American the good guys and  Russia bad..why not include in this game the fact
that American Special Forces side with jihadist terrorist ,Alqaeda and ISIS that are killing civilians? against a nation that have done nothing to them ? Wouldn't that be fun and more realistic? that will make it very real ,exactly what is happening in the world today.
What happens today is American Propaganda not only now in the media but also in video games.. making it look that what they do is cool , ie.. destroy the life of millions with their support for extremist for Imperialism.

The aim of this propaganda in video games is to sell to young people the idea that
US Government wars are "fun" and "cool"..and to make video gamers which will be future soldiers to get used to this..proxy wars.  that is fun and cool. that is something normal. US and NATO actions in the world. At least this time they don't target civilians.. there is Medal of Honor games a mission that you need to kill many Russians..civilians ,were you are a CIA officer ,helping chechens.. in Russia and in the game you are allowed to take a machine gun and shoot at civilians women and children in a Russian airport. Interestenly the same airport of the game was target of a terrorist attack later in Russia. None of this things happens by "coincidence" we are witnessing more and more a real hostility of Anglozionist mafia against Russia and now more than ever more active promoting terrorism against Russia and Russian allies.

I think is time for RUssia video game industry to fight back and take realism for real..and
reveal in video games exactly the way things are.. in the world.. how the west action cause misery in the life of millions , only to raise awareness world wide on new generations that
US wars are "not fun".. "not cool".. and not the good guys at all.

How deal you de with this kind of propaganda? Do you make your own video game? This is really screwed up and something needs to be done?

par far wrote:

Vann7 wrote:People need to see this.. When American media no longer works.. now the same propaganda
goes into video games..  

Check Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3..
by the developer ?    
CI games..    


Guess who are the good guys?   Americans and NATO forces..
Guess who are the bad guys ?    Russia and Syria Government forces..

with just one minor difference.. the name does not mention the Cannibals terrorist
that the "good guys" are allied and support..

According to the developers own words.. The game is based on an American special forces
and NATO who infiltrate behind the lines illegally into a Syrian "civil war" to fight a Proxy war against Russia.  



What is the aim of this propaganda ? To contaminate the mind of millions of teens who not even watch news of barely..but play video games and made them believe that is cool ,what American Government is doing today in middle east... and told them.. this..

Notice how the game not even mention the very fact that American government is arming terrorist. is totally hidden.. no no.. Such small details are not in the game.. for obvious reasons that will not help the anti Russian propaganda. Its interesting how they omit the details ,that are more embarrassing and criminal of how really American special forces operate. and not so good guys.. in real world.

This is a classic example of how US congress money ,is used to brainwash the american and European society. .the flag of the "bad guys" is guess what? very close to the Russian flag.
and in the game you need to kill many Russians..  This is what i replied there..

Since this game likes to touch politics.. of the real world.. US special forces fighting a proxy war against Russia.. American the good guys and  Russia bad..why not include in this game the fact
that American Special Forces side with jihadist terrorist ,Alqaeda and ISIS that are killing civilians? against a nation that have done nothing to them ? Wouldn't that be fun and more realistic? that will make it very real ,exactly what is happening in the world today.
What happens today is American Propaganda not only now in the media but also in video games.. making it look that what they do is cool , ie.. destroy the life of millions with their support for extremist for Imperialism.

The aim of this propaganda in video games is to sell to young people the idea that
US Government wars are "fun" and "cool"..and to make video gamers which will be future soldiers to get used to this..proxy wars.  that is fun and cool. that is something normal. US and NATO actions in the world. At least this time they don't target civilians.. there is Medal of Honor games a mission that you need to kill many Russians..civilians ,were you are a CIA officer ,helping chechens.. in Russia and in the game you are allowed to take a machine gun and shoot at civilians women and children in a Russian airport. Interestenly the same airport of the game was target of a terrorist attack later in Russia. None of this things happens by "coincidence" we are witnessing more and more a real hostility of Anglozionist mafia against Russia and now more than ever more active promoting terrorism against Russia and Russian allies.

I think is time for RUssia video game industry to fight back and take realism for real..and
reveal in video games exactly the way things are.. in the world.. how the west action cause misery in the life of millions , only to raise awareness world wide on new generations that
US wars are "not fun".. "not cool".. and not the good guys at all.

How deal you de with this kind of propaganda? Do you make your own video game? This is really screwed up and something needs to be done?

University professors point that out in their students. You answer by targeting critically the brightest kids, not the dumbest. Don't forget this has been the norm for the whole Cold War. So why sweat it?

Wasnt long ago, prior to this clusterF, that we had games about killing Russians.

Sniper games sucked the big one anyway. Not even worthy of Day 1 pirate.