The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

auslander wrote:Don't get your hopes up. Rumor has it that trains are being loaded in Poland, former DDR and other charmers and will head east, carrying what they have not sold to the takfiri.

Still less than what they had before. All that firepower is gone for good and sugardaddies can only deliver so much. That stuff is no longer abundant.

Also, as someone who was a sapper in the army, those photos of mountains of rusted ordinance lying around give me the creeps.

Glad I'm not the poor sod who will have to clean up what's left...

Maybe artillery shell being shipped east but I wonder how much rocket munitions were left in the rest of the Warsaw Pact countries. Wouldn't a large amount of rocket munitions be deployed with the launchers?

Will they bother cleaning it up?

Is it still burning?

Ex WP members could give to Ukrops only 122 mm, 152 mm shells and Grad rockets. They didn't have any Uragan, Smerch or Pion long range artillery complexes, so they don't have any ammunition for them.

Most important is, that Orcs don't have long range artillery to fire far behind the front line. Novorussian army have few Uragans, Smerch and Pion complexes, but no problem with ammunition, what mean Novorussian army now have longer hand in artillery duels.

Loosing such portion of tank ammunition will also leave big impact on Orcs tank forces capabilities, when they will face novorussian tanks.

Porky will now have to decide if he will go to war with what ammunition is left and loose the war or to leave Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts as he could not continue with every day shelling of Novorussian vilages and towns for a long time. When ammunition will run out, Orcs will be put on the mercy of Zaharchenko and Novorussian army as they will not be able to fight against them. Ukrops doesn't have enough ammunition for war with Novorussia, but enough for a coup against Kiev junta and nazis.

some interesting history from the 1991 coup:

And this is a very remarkable photo: zhovto-blakitnyi prapor seen. Several similar pictures can be found in other places in those days. The witnesses proudly declare the presence of a certain "Ukrainian hundred" in the ranks of the defenders of the House of Soviets in August 1991. Then the maidan was a wonder.

Looks like Maidan was a thing since then

Ukrops doesn't have enough ammunition for war with Novorussia, but enough for a coup against Kiev junta and nazis.

After refusing to shoot civilians in the Donbas or resist the Russians in Crimea in 2014, the Officer Corp of the USV was so purged and taken control of by the Nationalist and SBU that a coup would really surprise me.

I don't think there will be any shortage of ammo any time soon. They may not have Hurricane and Smerch but a lot of damage can be done with what they do have. You also have to consider that now the orcs will go to eu/nato hat in hand and beg for their weapons 'cause the orcs lost all their ammo and the Russians will now be able to take orcland as Russian planned and orcland is the only thing standing between the Eastern Hordes and poor defenseless europe.

medo wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

auslander wrote:Don't get your hopes up. Rumor has it that trains are being loaded in Poland, former DDR and other charmers and will head east, carrying what they have not sold to the takfiri.

Still less than what they had before. All that firepower is gone for good and sugardaddies can only deliver so much. That stuff is no longer abundant.

Also, as someone who was a sapper in the army, those photos of mountains of rusted ordinance lying around give me the creeps.

Glad I'm not the poor sod who will have to clean up what's left...

Maybe artillery shell being shipped east but I wonder how much rocket munitions were left in the rest of the Warsaw Pact countries. Wouldn't a large amount of rocket munitions be deployed with the launchers?

Will they bother cleaning it up?

Is it still burning?

Ex WP members could give to Ukrops only 122 mm, 152 mm shells and Grad rockets. They didn't have any Uragan, Smerch or Pion long range artillery complexes, so they don't have any ammunition for them.

Most important is, that Orcs don't have long range artillery to fire far behind the front line. Novorussian army have few Uragans, Smerch and Pion complexes, but no problem with ammunition, what mean Novorussian army now have longer hand in artillery duels.

Loosing such portion of tank ammunition will also leave big impact on Orcs tank forces capabilities, when they will face novorussian tanks.

Porky will now have to decide if he will go to war with what ammunition is left and loose the war or to leave Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts as he could not continue with every day shelling of Novorussian vilages and towns for a long time. When ammunition will run out, Orcs will be put on the mercy of Zaharchenko and Novorussian army as they will not be able to fight against them. Ukrops doesn't have enough ammunition for war with Novorussia, but enough for a coup against Kiev junta and nazis.

The shortage of systems and Sovietic ammunition over 130mm to the West of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine affects even to the 152mm caliber.

Recent reports (early 2016) talk about only (including self-propelled):

21 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm Moldova

31 D-20 152mm Moldova
24 D-20 152mm Bulgaria
18 D-20 152mm Hungary

And nothing else (nothing self-propelled). Fairly predictable what will happen, but also nothing else to repeat it.

APU received orders to save ammunition

In connection with the explosion of the ammunition depot in Balaklee, units and units of the APU in the ATU zone received an order to save ammunition, RIA Novosti reported a message of the representative of the People's Militia of the Lugansk Republic Andrei Marochko.

Recall, on the night of Thursday, the ammunition depot in the city of Balakleya caught fire. In connection with the detonation of ammunition from the city, about 36 thousand people were evacuated. Criminal proceedings were opened for articles "negligence" and "diversion". By the morning of Saturday the fire was almost eliminated, but still there were single explosions. Several explosions were heard on the night of Sunday.
According to the information available to us, after the explosions at the arsenal in the village of Balakleya, military units stationed in the zone of the so-called ATO were sent instructions on the need for economical use of ammunition,
Said Marochko at a briefing. He specified that "most of all ammunition used in the Donbass by Ukrainian security forces was supplied from this warehouse."

Crash of Ukrainian Mi-2 military helicopter in eastern region of Donetsk killed at least five people, according to local media.

KIEV (Sputnik) — At least five people were killed after an Ukrainian Mi-2 military helicopter crashed on Sunday in eastern region of Donetsk, local media reported, citing Ukraine's Defense Ministry spokeswoman.

The crash was reported earlier in the day by the press service of Kiev-led military operation in south-east of Ukraine. The helicopter crashed near to Malynivka settlement in Donetsk Region supposedly after hitting a power transmission line.

"There is information that five people namely three crew members and two passengers were killed. It is preliminary information," Ukraine's Defense Ministry spokeswoman Oksana Havryliuk said as quoted by the Ukrainian National News agency.

According to the spokeswoman, the investigative commission is currently working at the site of the accident.

more than 3375 Ukrainian soldiers got killed in Donbas so far

http://memorybook.org.ua/

Looks like DNR are linking that Mi-2 crash at the weekend to the big fire at the end of the week.

Monday, March 27, 2017 - 16:00

No inspections ever followed the explosions at Ukrainian missile warehouse in Balakleya, as the commission was killed in a helicopter crash on its way to the site, reported the Vice-Commander of the DPR People’s Militia Corps Eduard Basurin. Thus, it became known that after a resonant explosion of the Ukrainian rocket and artillery armament arsenal in Balakleya, the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces had initiated verification of all storage sites for ammunition of the security services.

“Particular attention was paid to the weapon ordnance stores in the so-called 'ATO' zone, as the commission had already revealed there a number of gross defects in the order of ammunition storage, as well as shortage facts,” noted Basurin.

Unfortunately, the planned inspection never took place, as the commission’s aircraft crashed under shadowy circumstances, presented by Ukrainian media as an ordinary accident.

“According to the information we have, the cause of the crash of a military Mi-2 helicopter that crashed in the area of Malinovka village, not far from Kramatorsk town, was not a clash with power lines, as Ukrainian media present it. The true cause of the helicopter crash was an explosion for the liquidation of the members of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Commission, which had evidence of the thefts based on the results of the inspection of armament depots in the military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces,” said the Vice-Commander.

DONi News Agency

Big article on Poro's proposed 'only have a Ukrainian passport' plan. Here is a bit

According to estimates by Ukrainian media and politicians, between 102 and 150 of the Rada's 450 lawmakers also hold dual, triple, quadruple or even quintuple citizenship. With this in mind, it's unclear how actively parliament will support the president's hardline stance.

Notwithstanding the Ukrainian political elite's flaunting of its own laws, many ordinary Ukrainians would be hit similarly hard by the amended citizenship law. According to independent Ukrainian journalist Denis Gaevsky, if the amendments are passed, entire regions of Ukraine would be threatened with serious social and economic shocks, accelerating the country's breakup.

The rest is at https://sputniknews.com/europe/201703271052003615-ukraine-dual-citizenship-ban/

I hope it all backfires and the people of Ukraine that have dual citizenship renounce their Ukrainian passports instead of their foreign ones...

JohninMK wrote:Looks like DNR are linking that Mi-2 crash at the weekend to the big fire at the end of the week.

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According to crime-ua.com in the crash died:
Commander: lt.col. Voloshin Eugene Petrovich;
Second Pilot: capt. Movchan Dmitry Vasilevich;
Technician: sr.lt. Kondul Roman Grigorevich;
Passenger: col. Melnik Valery Ivanovich;
Passenger: col. Kalitich Viktor Mikhailovich;

Melnik was the Chief of staff of the "Aidar" battalion and Kalitich - the Head of the missile and artillery support staff of "ATO" operation in the East Ukraine.

Karbafoz wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

“According to the information we have, the cause of the crash of a military Mi-2 helicopter that crashed in the area of Malinovka village, not far from Kramatorsk town, was not a clash with power lines, as Ukrainian media present it. The true cause of the helicopter crash was an explosion for the liquidation of the members of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Commission, which had evidence of the thefts based on the results of the inspection of armament depots in the military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces,” said the Vice-Commander.

DONi News Agency[/i] [/spoiler]

According to crime-ua.com in the crash died:
Commander: lt.col. Voloshin Eugene Petrovich;
Second Pilot: capt. Movchan Dmitry Vasilevich;
Technician: sr.lt. Kondul Roman Grigorevich;
Passenger: col. Melnik Valery Ivanovich;
Passenger: col. Kalitich Viktor Mikhailovich;

Melnik was the Chief of staff of the "Aidar" battalion and Kalitich - the Head of the missile and artillery support staff of "ATO" operation in the East Ukraine.

Thanks. It looks like they may have analysed the situation spot on.

Interesting statement from Lavrov today. I don't remember him ever saying this in such plain words.

http://tass.com/politics/937981

auslander wrote:Interesting statement from Lavrov today. I don't remember him ever saying this in such plain words.

http://tass.com/politics/937981

Agreed, both in the 'we stand by them' and the 'Minsk the only way' emphasis on only the locals on both sides can sort this, parts of his interview.

auslander wrote:Interesting statement from Lavrov today. I don't remember him ever saying this in such plain words.

http://tass.com/politics/937981

Russia is loosing patience with the west.

This could be a very interesting move by Russian authorities in Sevastopol, paying the owners of assets seized. Starting at the top of course with Poroshenko's Sevmorzavod and Kolomoisky's 16 petrol stations.

Who knows, they may include State assets in the list? Lets see now, how about $3B's worth and call it quits

Yandexed first couple of paras but much more in Russian at link.

The government of Sevastopol approved the draft law "On peculiarities of regulation of property and land relations", according to which the city intends to pay compensation to former owners of nationalized property. The list of objects which will be paid compensation, according to the officials, will be determined in the process, but the two objects they have named. And the owners of these objects — with big names.compensation to former owners of nationalized property. The list of objects which will be paid compensation, according to the officials, will be determined in the process, but the two objects they have named. And the owners of these objects — with big names.

"We are talking about that we must regulate the procedure of compensation for nationalized property. We know in particular that we are talking about a network of gas stations and property complex "SMZ". This property exactly there," — said during the meeting, the city government Deputy Governor of Sevastopol Ilya Ponomarev.

https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles/2017/03/30/71967-pervyy-vznos-za-krym?utm_source=push

Looks like a very nasty piece of work has bit the dust.

Friday, March 31, 2017 - 17:25

In Mariupol, a car exploded in which was Colonel of the Security Service of Ukraine, Alexander Kharaberyush. According to the SBU Head Vasily Gritsak, the perished person was the Vice-Commander of the chief counterintelligence department under the Donetsk Security Service Office. The explosion took place at 8:35 am in the central district of ​​Mariupol at the junction of Metallurgov Avenue and Kaffaiskaya Street. Police, explosive ordnance disposal team, rescuers and forensics are working on the site. The area was cordoned off.

Ukrainian ‘authorities’ do not exclude that the SBU Colonel was killed in a terrorist attack.

Another opinion was stated by the ex-head of the DPR MGB Andrei Pinchuk. According to him, the SBU Colonel Alexander Kharaberyush, who was blown up in Mariupol’s city-centre in his private car, rather paid for torturing, bullying and extorting money from local residents, accused by Ukrainian special services of sympathizing with Russia or Donbass Republics.

The name of the killed Colonel was earlier mentioned in Pinchuk's memoirs, in which the DPR MGB ex-head called Kharaberyush the curator of sophisticated tortures of the supporters of Russia and LPR, DPR, which began in Mariupol as early as 2014, when the city was seized by Ukrainian troops.

DONi News Agency

It is interesting to note that in this 2004 lecture General Petrov mentions the fact that the "globalists mafia" wanted to seize Crimea from Russia for its unique ecological features as with other areas in Russia. He states that the method to be used was pitting Ukrainians against Russians and using peacekeepers to seize the territory.

Now you know why NATO was tossed out of Sevastopol 23.02.14. While I wrote and published a fictional account of that day the actual event, the removal of NATO from this berg, is true. They were rounded up, hauled to the orc border and summarily put out.

https://www.russiadefence.net/t4182-never-the-last-one-a-novel-of-spetznaz

Bit more on that SBU Colonel killed on Friday

In conclusion, I want to unveil the information obtained by our intelligence service regarding the death of the chief of the Ukraine’s Security Service counterintelligence department in the Donetsk region, Colonel A. Kharaberyush.

The main reason for elimination of the SBU Colonel A. Kharaberyush was the revelation of his direct participation in patronizing of arms smuggling. At that, in case of his detention, which was planned to take place in the coming days, and falling under investigation, a number of Kiev’s high-ranking Security Service and Defense Ministry officials would also face criminal prosecution, as they were the closing links of making profit from theft and illegal trafficking of weapons in Ukraine.

The assassination was carried out by specialists of the 73rd special operations centre of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who planted a remote explosive device in the colonel's car and activated it. At that, law enforcement officers, naturally, will not search for executors and customers, so as not to experience the fate of the SBU colonel.

Vice-Commander of the DPR People's Militia Colonel Eduard Basurin, official translation by DONi News Agency

The money probably never left the books of the banks working on behalf of the IMF just moving to new accounts. You know, cut out the middleman (the Ukrainian people) who just get the book debt for the future. Carefully timed to be ahead of the London Court ruling.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko stated that the IMF Executive Board has decided to disburse $1 billion to Ukraine.

KIEV (Sputnik) — Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Monday that the Executive Board of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has approved the disbursement of $1 billion as a new tranche to Ukraine.

The IMF's Executive Board held a meeting earlier on Monday to consider the third review of Ukraine’s arrangement under the Extended Fund Facility.

"The IMF Executive Board has decided to disburse $1 billion to Ukraine," Poroshenko wrote in his Facebook blog.

They can't save their Kiev regime racket with $1 billion installments. The economy of Banderastan is shrivelling up and naturally
there is no trickle down from the corrupt rulers. I think there will be a phase transition when the pain for the average apathetic
Ukr becomes too much. The punk young generation will not be able to stop their parents and grandparents from staging a revolution.

more than 3395 Ukrainian soldiers killed in Donbas so far

http://memorybook.org.ua/

VISA free travel of Ukrainians in EU approved today

http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-eu-parliament-approves-visa-free-travel/28414216.html