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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:14 am

    The IMF loans will have lots of strings attached... the usual is that the condition for the loans is the ability for international companies to go in and buy up state owned assets on the cheap... when big business owns the Ukraine then they will find they cannot pay back loans and so the primary countries in control of the IMF can then directly control Kiev...

    They can have all the NATO or US bases they want etc etc all the CIA listening stations etc etc.

    The IMF bank is a 5th column front that can only lead to loss of sovereignty.

    It is the opposite of a bringer of peace and democracy... a tool of colonialism.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:57 am

    This could be a very interesting move by Russian authorities in Sevastopol, paying the owners of assets seized. Starting at the top of course with Poroshenko's Sevmorzavod and Kolomoisky's 16 petrol stations.

    Who knows, they may include State assets in the list? Lets see now, how about $3B's worth and call it quits Laughing

    Yandexed first couple of paras but much more in Russian at link.

    The government of Sevastopol approved the draft law "On peculiarities of regulation of property and land relations", according to which the city intends to pay compensation to former owners of nationalized property. The list of objects which will be paid compensation, according to the officials, will be determined in the process, but the two objects they have named. And the owners of these objects — with big names.compensation to former owners of nationalized property. The list of objects which will be paid compensation, according to the officials, will be determined in the process, but the two objects they have named. And the owners of these objects — with big names.

    "We are talking about that we must regulate the procedure of compensation for nationalized property. We know in particular that we are talking about a network of gas stations and property complex "SMZ". This property exactly there," — said during the meeting, the city government Deputy Governor of Sevastopol Ilya Ponomarev.


    https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles/2017/03/30/71967-pervyy-vznos-za-krym?utm_source=push

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:37 pm

    Looks like a very nasty piece of work has bit the dust.

    Friday, March 31, 2017 - 17:25

    In Mariupol, a car exploded in which was Colonel of the Security Service of Ukraine, Alexander Kharaberyush. According to the SBU Head Vasily Gritsak, the perished person was the Vice-Commander of the chief counterintelligence department under the Donetsk Security Service Office. The explosion took place at 8:35 am in the central district of ​​Mariupol at the junction of Metallurgov Avenue and Kaffaiskaya Street. Police, explosive ordnance disposal team, rescuers and forensics are working on the site. The area was cordoned off.

    Ukrainian ‘authorities’ do not exclude that the SBU Colonel was killed in a terrorist attack.

    Another opinion was stated by the ex-head of the DPR MGB Andrei Pinchuk. According to him, the SBU Colonel Alexander Kharaberyush, who was blown up in Mariupol’s city-centre in his private car, rather paid for torturing, bullying and extorting money from local residents, accused by Ukrainian special services of sympathizing with Russia or Donbass Republics.

    The name of the killed Colonel was earlier mentioned in Pinchuk's memoirs, in which the DPR MGB ex-head called Kharaberyush the curator of sophisticated tortures of the supporters of Russia and LPR, DPR, which began in Mariupol as early as 2014, when the city was seized by Ukrainian troops.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  storm333 on Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:17 pm


    It is interesting to note that in this 2004 lecture General Petrov mentions the fact that the "globalists mafia" wanted to seize Crimea from Russia for its unique ecological features as with other areas in Russia. He states that the method to be used was pitting Ukrainians against Russians and using peacekeepers to seize the territory.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  auslander on Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:05 pm

    Now you know why NATO was tossed out of Sevastopol 23.02.14. While I wrote and published a fictional account of that day the actual event, the removal of NATO from this berg, is true. They were rounded up, hauled to the orc border and summarily put out.

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t4182-never-the-last-one-a-novel-of-spetznaz

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:06 am

    Bit more on that SBU Colonel killed on Friday

    In conclusion, I want to unveil the information obtained by our intelligence service regarding the death of the chief of the Ukraine’s Security Service counterintelligence department in the Donetsk region, Colonel A. Kharaberyush.

    The main reason for elimination of the SBU Colonel A. Kharaberyush was the revelation of his direct participation in patronizing of arms smuggling. At that, in case of his detention, which was planned to take place in the coming days, and falling under investigation, a number of Kiev’s high-ranking Security Service and Defense Ministry officials would also face criminal prosecution, as they were the closing links of making profit from theft and illegal trafficking of weapons in Ukraine.

    The assassination was carried out by specialists of the 73rd special operations centre of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who planted a remote explosive device in the colonel's car and activated it. At that, law enforcement officers, naturally, will not search for executors and customers, so as not to experience the fate of the SBU colonel.

    Vice-Commander of the DPR People's Militia Colonel Eduard Basurin, official translation by DONi News Agency

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:08 pm

    The money probably never left the books of the banks working on behalf of the IMF just moving to new accounts. You know, cut out the middleman (the Ukrainian people) who just get the book debt for the future. Carefully timed to be ahead of the London Court ruling.

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko stated that the IMF Executive Board has decided to disburse $1 billion to Ukraine.

    KIEV (Sputnik) — Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Monday that the Executive Board of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has approved the disbursement of $1 billion as a new tranche to Ukraine.

    The IMF's Executive Board held a meeting earlier on Monday to consider the third review of Ukraine’s arrangement under the Extended Fund Facility.

    "The IMF Executive Board has decided to disburse $1 billion to Ukraine," Poroshenko wrote in his Facebook blog.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:55 am

    They can't save their Kiev regime racket with $1 billion installments. The economy of Banderastan is shrivelling up and naturally
    there is no trickle down from the corrupt rulers. I think there will be a phase transition when the pain for the average apathetic
    Ukr becomes too much. The punk young generation will not be able to stop their parents and grandparents from staging a revolution.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:39 pm

    more than 3395 Ukrainian soldiers killed in Donbas so far

    http://memorybook.org.ua/
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:41 pm

    VISA free travel of Ukrainians in EU approved today

    http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-eu-parliament-approves-visa-free-travel/28414216.html
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  franco on Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:46 pm

    https://dninews.com/article/dpr-mgb-names-organizer-motorola-and-givis-murders
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  auslander on Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:08 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avNQOTqzeUY

    No way the orcs can win and this is just the reserve for DNR. 3 divisions in service between DNR/LNR plus reserves of Donetsk. McCain just had a heart attack.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:50 pm

    auslander wrote:

    No way the orcs can win and this is just the reserve for DNR. 3 divisions in service between DNR/LNR plus reserves of Donetsk. McCain just had a heart attack.

    I agree with you on that, I hope yours stay safe. Their future probably changed for the better last week.

    Can you imagine the reaction in Kiev after the cruise missile attack as they will see themselves as partner anti Russians with Syrians? The initial elation and drinks all round as their best friends the Americans put one over on Russia (by default admittedly). Then as the implications of what had just happened sunk in, that the US by defending its notional strategic position like this in Syria had opened the door wide open for Russia to do the same with its actual strategic position in Ukraine. Realising with a sickening feeling in their stomachs that the game was nearly up, their lives were going to change for ever.

    This quid pro quo is probably one very good reason why we have heard almost nothing out of Moscow. Just as when the sanctions were implemented they are too busy being pleased. As a Westerner it saddens me to say this but the US has shot us in the foot, again.

    The Law of Unintended Consequences can be brutal at times.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  auslander on Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:41 pm

    I haven't shown this vid to my wife yet but I will shortly, I have no choice and I'd rather it be me to show her rather than her seeing it on the forums she goes to.

    If the orcs continue to kill our civilians then there is the possible chance that Mother will toss a few Kalibrs in to even up the odds and do a little payback. We'll see but with the hypocrisy of Foggy Bottom and eu they will scream bloody murder and foment another crisis.

    I would imagine there were just as many long faces in Kiev as there was in DC, Berlin, Paris, Warsaw and London after 60% of the missiles failed to reach their programmed targets. You are correct, quid pro quo is a cast iron b///h when it gets shoved up deserving nostrils.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:52 pm

    auslander wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avNQOTqzeUY

    No way the orcs can win and this is just the reserve for DNR. 3 divisions in service between DNR/LNR plus reserves of Donetsk. McCain just had a heart attack.

    I want that ghoul to just fucking die already, I am not even trying to be subtle about it....
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  auslander on Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:37 pm

    That walleyed nut kisser apparently got totally screwed in the head while he was a guest in the Hanoi Hilton, cushy as he had it compared to the rest of the prisoners. He's patently insane and the world would be a better place without him. We should be so lucky.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:18 pm

    Looks like another one has gone up

    Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 16:43

    The explosion took place at the Ukrainian ammunition warehouse near Yasinovataya today in the morning, reports the DPR Operational Command’s Vice-Commander.  “Today in the morning at about seven o’clock in the Butovskaya mine up-cast’s area the demolition of the ammunition warehouse took place. The most probable reasons of the explosion are security protocol’s violation or purpose actions aimed at a pilferage concealment,” said the Vice-Commander.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  eehnie on Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:27 pm

    If you want to see data about the evolution of the Sovietic/Russian warfare in the Ukranian side in the War of Donbass, check this link:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t4072p25-older-warfare-performance-and-short-mid-term-decomissions#191649
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  Ispan on Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm

    Very interesting article

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/uaf-returned-old-tactics-war/

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:36 pm

    Ispan wrote:Very interesting article

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/uaf-returned-old-tactics-war/

    Thanks, it is.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:47 am

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/ambassador-ukraine-belgium-fled-university-lecture-just-one-question/

    How was a lecture invited to the University of the Ambassador of Ukraine, according to the witness process.

    "Perhaps a record — not tested do not know. Lecture of the Ambassador of Ukraine lasted..... In General, in order. Student Luganskogo of the faculty of journalism asked the Ambassador one question, only one.

    Here are his words, translated literally from Dutch into Russian.

    — Mr. Ambassador, I just arrived from Donbass and saw how the Ukrainian army bombed the peaceful population of Donbass. I have a question — when Ukraine will stop killing women and children?

    — What do you want what I said to you?

    — When you stop bombing people?

    Curtain. The Ambassador came out from the audience" — said Sergei-Ratibor.

    Source: http://rusnext.ru/news/1492660588

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  ATLASCUB on Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:35 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    auslander wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avNQOTqzeUY

    No way the orcs can win and this is just the reserve for DNR. 3 divisions in service between DNR/LNR plus reserves of Donetsk. McCain just had a heart attack.

    I want that ghoul to just fucking die already, I am not even trying to be subtle about it....

    He's a nobody - a messenger. It actually pays to have him alive and spill the objectives as clear as possible to outside observes like us. We lack the intelligence data security services have.

    The Nuland types are much more deadly. No one knew of her in the international scene until she became the rockstar that flipped Ukraine - with a soft voice - and fuck the EU.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:45 pm

    Pot calling kettle black

    KIEV (Sputnik) — Ukrainian forces on Sunday published a statement on Facebook accusing militias from the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass of having shelled their positions 46 times in the past 24 hours.

    The positions of the Kiev forces have been bombed 46 times, according to the statement published by the press center of Ukraine’s military operation in the country's southeast on its Facebook account.

    The statement added that at least one Ukrainian serviceman was killed and three more were wounded in the shellings.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:04 pm

    An OSCE Special Monitoring Mission car has blew up in eastern Ukraine killing at least one OSCE staff member and injuring another, the mission said. The incident took place on the territory controlled by the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic (LPR).

    "We can confirm that an #OSCE patrol has been involve in a serious security incident in the Luhansk [Lugansk] region," the mission said on Facebook. The OSCE mission in Ukraine car exploded on a mine in Donbass, the OSCE chairman, Sebastian Kurz, said.

    "Tragic news from #Ukraine: SMM patrol drove on mine. One #OSCE patrol member killed, one injured 1/3." Kurz wrote on Twitter.

    Kurz also called for a "thorough investigation into the incident." Those responsible will be held accoutable, he said. The OSCE chairman also expressed "heartfelt condolences" to the family of the killed OSCE staff member and the special monitoring mission in Ukraine team.

    The press service of the LPR told Sputnik that the OSCE car deviated from the route it was supposed to follow. "We know that the mentioned crew deviated from the main route and moved along side roads, which is prohibited by the mandate of the OSCE SMM," the LPR press service specified.


    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201704231052903927-osce-car-ukraine/

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:09 pm

    From today's update, IMF box ticking by Kiev, doing something about corruption and using Western experts to help, yet not actually changing anything. Win Win Laughing

    One of the key problems of the Ukrainian army, along with moral decay and the low level of control over personnel, is corruption, which is widespread among military authorities of all levels. And if at battalions’ level and higher it is approved by the law – the commander received up to 5% of the money saved by imposed fines, allocated for the monetary allowance’s payment, then at the "platoon-company" level commanders lay their subordinates under tribute for not including the latter in the penalty box.

    This has been repeatedly stated by the Chief Military Prosecutor of Ukraine Matios in communication with the Ukrainian media, but this problem has not yet been resolved.

    The military leadership is trying to fight these crimes in a strange way – by conducting courses on integrity improvement and reducing the risks of corruption under the leadership of specially invited stars. For example, as it was on April 19 in Kharkov with Phillip Jones, British adviser to the Defense Minister of Ukraine. But the problem is yet to be solved. In general, the Ukrainian army is in its usual state, as instead of any real actions, there is a “three S” rule: to sit, swop lies and say goodbye.

    And the problem of corruption will be only growing stronger as long as the economy of Ukraine is at the level of a medieval state’s development.


    https://dninews.com/article/donetsk-defense-situation-report-04232017

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