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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  dino00 on Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:06 pm

    LMFS wrote:Interview with Alexey Rogozin from Il about the prospects for 2019:

    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru/https/vpk.name/news/241420_aleksei_rogozin_u_nas_vse_est_chtobyi_perelomit_situaciyu_byistree_menyatsya_i_byit_bolee_effektivnyimi.html

    Today, the Il-112V is already preparing for the first flight. Priority directions of development of aviation programs in 2019 will be:

    - conduct flight tests of the Il-112V and the launch of the third and fourth cars;

    - launch of mass production of wide-body long-haul passenger aircraft Il-96-400M;

    - start of the serial production of passenger inter-regional aircraft Il-114-300; - design of medium-sized military transport aircraft Il-276;

    - flight tests of the new tanker Il-78M-90A;

    - increase in the rate of production of new military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A;

    - a deep modernization of the heavy military transport aircraft Il-76MD to version Il-76MD-M and aircraft-tankers Il-78M to version Il-78M2;

    - execution of works on modernization of anti-submarine aircraft Il-38 to version Il-38N;

    - work on the creation of super-heavy transport aircraft.

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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  DerWolf on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:54 pm

    Sorry for my ignorance but why Russia a country that makes cuttig-edge aircrafts like su-30/35, have difficulties building a light transport aircraft?
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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  Isos on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:59 pm

    DerWolf wrote:Sorry for my ignorance but why Russia a country that makes cuttig-edge aircrafts like su-30/35, have difficulties building a light transport aircraft?

    Sukhoi was always 100% russian. While some transport aircraft came from Ukraine during soviet times. So they need to start from 0 with little experience. Just like engines for ships.
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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:22 pm

    For the same reason they had problems with light helicopters and jet trainer aircraft and heavy machine guns and large diesel and gas turbine engines for ships and gas turbine engines for their helicopters.

    During the cold war their Mi-2 helos were not made in Russia and nor were their engines, the L-29 jet trainers were not Russian, the Utes HMG was not Russian, and the engines for the conventionally powered ships were not Russian made either. The gas turbine engines for the helos like Hip and Hind and Havoc and Hokum were made in the Ukraine at Motor Sich.

    Some of the problems were fixed relatively quickly like the jet trainers and the heavy machine gun...Yak-130 and Kord are modern capable systems as good as any available any where else in the world. Klimov has now replaced Motor Sich in terms of making helicopter engines too and various companies have made strides in replacing material that formerly came from other Soviet states or the former Warsaw Pact states.

    Most of their optics came from Belarus, engines and rocket components and missile sensors came from the Ukraine, and of course Antonov was a major supplier of transport aircraft to the entire eastern block.

    It would be like Boeing suddenly becoming a Canadian company and the US deciding it needs new American aircraft to replace all its Boeings because it does not want to pay Canadian Dollars to operate its aircraft fleet...

    Boeing has dominated the US market for so long there is little to no internal competition within the US market, so if Boeing could not be used then the US would have serious problems.

    As I mentioned Klimov has stepped up in making helicopter engines and I believe Saturn are making ship propulsion systems, but that is in addition to what they already make so it is an expansion of their product range and production capacity... trying to replace a production capacity developed over decades for the job it is doing.

    Ironically a lot of the Russian companies that have entered the market to replace now foreign companies have the advantage of starting from scratch with new technology, so while it takes a little while, the final product can be an improvement over what it is replacing.

    New night vision equipment Russian companies are introducing to replace equipment from Belarus is very much comparable to western equipment and has had a lot of investment in new technology, unlike the Belarussian companies.

    I remember not that long ago a similar question... why doesn't Russia have UAVs like America and Israel does when they can make modern new aircraft too.

    A capability does not just fall from the sky... Israel and the US have been spending enormous amounts of money and time on UAVs over the last 3-4 decades trying to create useful systems, so the idea that Russia can just decide to build UAVs and for that to happen over night is absurd.

    There are a range of technologies that need to be invented and developed to operate UAVs including high quality cameras and other sensors and stabilisation systems as well as datalinks for communication and control just to start with... then you have a whole range of new small engine types and other propulsion and power generation systems as well as power management systems for electric models.

    It is not just the case of taking a pilot out of a plane and calling it a UAV...
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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  LMFS on Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:05 am

    Besides Il reported a substantial loss of designers, who left for other companies that were paying better. I guess some design bureaus did better than others through the crises. But they say also that now they have everything in place (maybe too optimistic?) and AFAIK the only Il-112V with overweight problems is the first prototype, hence (my guess) why the second one will be used for static tests and not the first one. Probably the first will be used for systems tests and then 3rd and 4th will join in for further testing of the flight envelope etc.
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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:20 am

    Well if the flying example has weight balance problems then there is no point in testing it for flight performance and optimising the flight control systems... might as well use it for systems integration.
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    Re: Russian Transport Aircraft fleet (VTA)

    Post  AMCXXL on Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:13 am

    Two modernized Il-76MD-M
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3505645.html
    In October 2016, PJSC Aviation Complex named after S.V. Ilyushin ”was awarded a contract with the Ministry of Defense to modernize the first three Il-76MD aircraft to the level of Il-76MD-M, with delivery until the end of 2018. The first on this contract was delivered to the VKS of Russia on March 13, 2018 the prototype IL-76MD-M (RF-76746), modified to the appearance of "full configuration" (although it continues to be used in Zhukovsky for testing. Now of the aircraft - RF-78788 and RF-78837. Both of these aircraft are part of the 610th Center for combat use and retraining of the flight crew of the Military Transport Aviation named after Marshal of Aviation NS Skripko in Ivanovo
    Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense of Russia plans to modernize 41 combat aircraft Il-76MD combat aircraft to the level of IL-76MD-M. Serial modernization work was supposed to be carried out at aircraft repair plants or at technical aviation bases of the Military Transport Aviation.
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    https://russianplanes.net/regs/RF-78788



    https://russianplanes.net/regs/RF-78837

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