Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

PTURBG wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. Russia needs new frigates. India doesnt and shouldnt get them because its friendly with the US.

India is friendly to India. And our interests mostly match closely to them, we have no rivalries over anything, and we have a history of co-operation and close ties.

What's going to be on those Talwars that's going to be all that interesting to the US anyhow.

Might as well export them and make some money. We can't induct them into our own fleet.. well we can, but they won't be much good without powerplants.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:
BTW Cruiser Moskva will be modernized. Oh well would be great to have radars, avionics and P-500 replaced by Onyx.

Not to mention the S-300F to be replaced by Redut with 40N6, 48N6 and 9M96 missiles

The frigates "Admiral Butakov" and "Admiral Istomin" will still be completed for India

According to the source of our blog in the Russian shipbuilding industry, the contract signed with India for the construction of two frigates of project 11356 in October 2018 still provides for the completion of two unfinished frigates of this type for the Indian fleet at Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad. built for the Russian Navy - "Admiral Butakov" (serial number 01360) and "Admiral Istomin" (serial number 01361) - and not the construction of completely new ships, as we reported earlier. At the same time, according to the source, the actual cost of the contract for the completion of these two frigates for India is not $ 950 million, as reported by the Indian media, but $ 1.2 billion.



The fate of the frigate Admiral Kornilov (serial number 01362), which was not completed on the Yantar PSZ, is still uncertain, however, we can assume that it will be used later on as part of the planned additional contract for the construction of two frigates of the project 11356 at the Indian state shipyard Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL) in Goa. Actually, from the very beginning of negotiations with India under an agreement on four frigates 11356, it was reported that the "localization" of the construction of two frigates in India involves towing and completing the construction of one unfinished hull in India and the construction of only one ship from scratch in India.

Planned to be completed for India at Yantar PSZ, project 11356 frigates will be equipped with their own standard gas turbine main power plants M7H produced by the Nikolaev GP NPKG Zorya - Mashproekt (Ukraine) - with two sets originally built in Nikolaev for these frigates built for Russian Navy, but never sent to Russia due to the events of 2014. On August 17, 2017, the government procurement commission of the government of India approved the purchase from Ukraine of two specified sets of M7H gas turbine units for frigates of the project 11356 for $ 76 million.

For the two frigates planned for construction in India, the Indian side will order additional sets of power plant on the GP NPKG "Zorya" - "Mashproekt".

Recall that the construction of the second three ships of a modified project 11356 (of the type “Admiral Grigorovich"; sometimes designated as project 11356R or 11357) for the Russian Navy was conducted by the Yantar RPM in Kaliningrad under a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia No. З / 1/1/0553 / GK-11-DGOZ from September 13, 2011 worth 40 billion rubles. All six ships of the modified project 11356 were originally planned to replenish the Black Sea Fleet.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3419968.html

i wonder, couldn't these frigates be completed for Russian Navy with Russian gas turbine engines?

hoom wrote:https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%AF%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C55/

"Work began at the plant that preceded the resumption of construction for the Indian Navy of two frigates of Project 11356. For this purpose, guard ship hulls that were built for the Black Sea Fleet will be used. These are frigates Admiral Butakov and Admiral Istomin, which are in varying degrees readiness "
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the start of work is scheduled for the first months of 2019. Gas turbine engines, which were produced in Ukraine but not delivered to Russia for installation on patrol ships of the "admiral" series, will be installed on ships for the Indian Navy

I still wonder how they intend to get the engines off the 404s since 404s repeatedly refused to deliver if they are to be worked on by Russia.

No, they refused to deliver engines for ships procured for the Russian Navy.

Delivering engines for ships selling to 3rd countries is fine.