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    Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:05 pm

    From Globlal Sercruity .org:

    Project 1135 Burevestnik -Krivak class
    Frigate
    Project #1135 Burevestnik [Krivak I] was an entirely new design, initially believed in the West to be designed for offensive surface warfare. In reality, the class was intended primarily as a defensive ASW ship. The Krivak was designed as a less expensive and capable counterpart to the larger Kresta II and Kara classes, with which it originally shared the BPK designation. In the late 1970s, the designation changed to SKR (Storozhevoy Koabl') or small antisubmarine ship, a more accurate indication of their actual capabilities.

    The first of the 'Krivak' anti-submarine ships appeared in 1970. They were faster and more heavily armed than their Weastern counterparts, with four large SSN-14 Silex missiles. The huge quadruple SSN-14 launcher dominates the forward end of these ships. Twenty one ships were built before the first of the 11 improved 'Krivak IIs' appeared in 1976. This version had new guns and a larger variable depth sonar. The 'Krivak III' which entered service in the mid-1980s, dropped the Silex launcher for a sinlge gun turret and incorporated a hanger and flight deck instead of the stern gun turrets.

    Of the 32 Krivak's that were constructed in the 1970s and early 1980s only 6 remained in the Russian Navy in 2005. As of 2008 IISS reported that two Krivak I and two Krivak II remained in service. It was anticipated that the others would be decommissioned within the following few years.

    Project 1135 Krivak I Burevestnik
    Sources all agree that the Krivak I series consisted of 19 units with the first unit being completed in 1970, though there is a diversity of views as to whether the final unit was completed in 1980 or 1982. And while there is agreement on the names of these units, there is rather profound diversity of opinion on the construction chronology [to the extent that some sources suggest that the Poryvisty was one of the earlier ships, completed in 1974, while others contend that is was the last ship, completed in 1982].

    At least two and possibly three Krivak-I frigates were modernized between 1987 and 1994. Known in the West as MOD Krivak, different sources suggest that the Soviet designation was either Project #1135.2 Mod or Project #1135.6 [the former seems perhaps more likely]. This modification featured a new surface-to-surface missile in place of old ASW rocket launcher, along with improved electronics and sonars. Though possibly planned for all Krivak-I units, further implementation of this scheme apparently foundered on financial shoals.

    Five Krivak-Is were decomissioned between 2003 and 2004, by which time only three remained in service.

    Project 1135M Krivak II
    The Project #1135M Krivak II mainly differs from the initial version in having a different caliber gun. Sources all agree that the Krivak II series consisted of 11 units, all constructed at Shipyard 820 and completed between 1975 and 1982. And while there is agreement on the names of these units, there is considerable diversity of opinion on the construction chronology. It is generally agreed by most sources that as of 1999 at least four further units had been discarded, while some sources suggest that three additional units had also been discarded. All sources agree that at least one unit transfered to Ukraine, though as of early 2001 two Krivak-I frigates were reportedly among the units earmarked for disposal by Ukraine.

    Project 1135.1 / 1135P Krivak III Nerey
    In 1982 a joint Resolution of the Ministry of Shipbuilding Industry and the Navy approved the development of the Project 1135 and Project 1135.1 escort ships, based on new design and operation requirements to advanced AA/ASW, radio and radar equipment with a strike capability against surface ships. At the same time the Project 1154 class, with a similar displacement, was focused on combatting submarines and provide antisubmarine, antiship and antiaircraft defense to surface ship task forces and convoys.

    The Project 1135.1 Nerey [also reported as Project #1135P] Krivak III class was initially constructed for the KGB Maritime Border Guard. Despite speculation that they might be transferred to the Russian Navy, under the Project 1135.5 designation, IISS reported in 2008 that eight remained in service with the Federal Border Guards Service. The Krivak-III also features 100-mm gun that replaces the SS-N-14 ASW missile launcher found on other models. Although having less ASW capability than the Krivak-1/II, they do embark a utility helicopter. Two units were transferred to Ukraine prior to completion.

    Project 1135.2 Krivak IV
    The Krivak IV [reportedly Project #1135.2 though plausibly #1135.6] is a proposed design intended solely for export, with the same general layout as the Krivak III, though with improved electronics and weapons. Three modified Krivak-class frigates are under construction for India in St Petersburg.

    Project 1135.6 Talwar
    The first Talwar-type frigate for India was laid down at the Baltiisky Zavod shipyard in St. Petersburg in March 1999, and was launched on 12 May 2000. The second unit, Trishul, was launched on 23 November 2000, and the third frigate was laid down on 26 May 2000. The Talwar-type frigate is a further development of the Project 1135.1 patrol ship designed by the Severnoye Design Bureau. Ships of this type were initially built for coast guard forces.

    Project 1135.6 frigates differ from Project 1135.1 patrol ships in the range of tasks they can perform and in the assortment of weapon systems. The latter include the Club-N missile system recently developed by the Yekaterinburg-based Novator Design Bureau. The Talwar-type frigates carry eight standardized vertical launch tubes of the Club-N system which are installed in front of the pilot house. Another missile system, Shtil, installed closer to the bow, is intended to combat air targets at a range of 3 to 25 km. Its ammunition load comprises 24 missiles.

    As many as three more project 1135 frigates are under negotiation between Indians and Russians. The last one of the three of this type was built by Baltiysky Zavod in 1997. Then the contract cost $900m. However, new contracts should not be expected soon, because after the sale of Admiral Gorshkov India might lack funds to conclude all contracts it seeks.

    Plans to acquire another three vessels of the class seemed unlikely to be realized, as priority was being given to construction in India of the indigenous Project 17 Class frigates. There was no indication that the Russian Navy is a potential customer for further units of this class. However, because India was facing a shortfall in force levels, by December 2005 the Navy was in in negotiations with the Russians for three more follow-on ships of the Talwar class.

    On 12 January 2006 Russia and India signed a contract worth $1 billion for three Krivak-class frigates to be built for the Indian navy. The contract went to Kaliningrad-based Yantar Shipbuilding, which is state-controlled, over St. Petersburg-based rivals Severnaya Verf and Baltiysky Zavod. The first vessel will take more than four years to deliver. On 07 August 2007 ShipbuildingRu reported that Kaliningrad based Yantar shipyard had laid down the head project 1135.6 frigate for Navy of India. For this contract Yantar had invested considerable means in modernization of the manufacturing infrastructure, bought a lot of modern equipment. Construction of the frigates will be completed in 2012.

    Project 1135.6 Dozorny
    The main objectives of the Russian Shipbuilding Agency for 2004 in the military sector included the Sankt Petersburg class diesel sub for the Russian and foreign customers; project 11356 frigate; mine sweeper; combat and patrol cutters, specialized and auxiliary ships (fire control, divers’, hydrographic, demagnetizing, floating berths).

    The Project 1135.6 Dozorny Frigate [and a number of other vessels] were to be built will replace Project 956 destroyers used by the Navy. The new frigates will be capable of acting both as anti-submarine vessels and combat ships. They were to have a displacement of about 4,000 tons, as compared with the Navy destroyers' 9,500 tons.

    The Russian Navy issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) in early 2002 for the construction of 10-20 frigates in the 4,000-ton range. Budgetary restrictions and a general halt on new projects, delayed the decision. The RFP was re-issued on 28 February 2005. Bidding was supposed to conclude by 01 April 2005, with a decision anticipated by the end of 2005. Two shipyards were considered frontrunners for the program: Baltic Zavod — which at the time had no major construction projects; and Severnaya Verf, which was building the Steregushchy-class frigate. Plans call for building at least 10 units of the class, at a unit cost of about $200 million, and possibly as many as 20 total. If the project moves ahead as planned, the first unit would launch by the end of 2006 and commission in mid-2007.

    In fact, this competition was won by Severnaya Verf, and nothing more was heard of Baltic Zavod's Project 1135.6 Dozorny class.

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    Project 11356 gets bigger.

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:39 am

    Kaliningrad shipyard to build three frigates for Russian Navy

    RIA Novosti

    16:57 12/10/2010

    MOSCOW, October 12 (RIA Novosti) - The first three frigates for Russia's Black Sea Fleet will be built at the Yantar Shipyard in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad, a shipyard spokesman said on Tuesday.

    Yantar won a tender to build three Project 11356 frigates last week, Sergei Mikhailov told RIA Novosti.
    "The construction of the frigates for the Russian Navy will be carried out in parallel with the construction of the same-type frigates for the Indian Navy," Mikhailov said.

    Yantar is currently building three Project 11356 frigates for the Indian Navy under a $1.6 billion contract signed in 2007.

    The first warship, the Teg, which was floated out last November, will be handed over to India in mid-2011, Mikhailov said.

    The second, the Tarkash, and the third, the Trikand, will be delivered in 2011-2012, he added.

    The new frigates will be armed with eight BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.

    They will be also equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil surface-to-air missile system, two Kashtan air-defense gun/missile systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo launchers, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.

    Russia has previously built three Talwar-class frigates for India - INS Talwar (Sword), INS Trishul (Trident), and the INS Tabar (Axe).

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-101012-rianovosti01.htm

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:36 am

    Good news for Kaliningrad. They really need the work over there. These ships are superb at surface warfare, but lack a real ASW capability. A Helix with a dipping sonar is not going to make up for a lack of sonar suite on the vessel. You have to know where to look before you send out a helo and the ASW assets on the Black Sea are so poor today, these ships will be cannon fodder to anyone with submarines. The endurance isn't great for a Somali pirate patrol either. We need more ASW assets.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:52 am

    Russian Navy orders 3 more Krivak IV class frigates

    RIA Novosti

    19:53 14/09/2011

    MOSCOW, September 14 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's United Shipbuilding Corporation said on Wednesday it has signed a contract with the Defense Ministry on the construction of another three Krivak IV class frigates for the Russian Navy.

    The new contract under the 2011 state defense order stipulates the construction of the warships by 2016.

    The first three Krivak IV class frigates are being built at the Yantar Shipyard in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad. The warships are expected to enter service with Russia's Black Sea Fleet based on the Crimean peninsula.

    A Krivak IV class frigate is equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil medium-range air defense system, Club-N supersonic anti-ship missiles, two Kashtan point defense systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo launchers, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2011/russia-110914-rianovosti01.htm

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:33 am



    This is the large 4 shot missile launcher used in the original Krivak class frigates.
    This is a later model missile, the early missile was a lot like the Australian Ikara in that it was a rocket with a torpedo slung under it.
    The difference was that the first model Silex missile was a fully dual purpose weapon with built in radar guidance.
    In the anti sub role, which was its primary role, the missile flew a ballistic path to the suspected location of the enemy sub and when it got there it dropped a torpedo into the water which spiralled down in the water listening for sub targets... when it spotted one it powered up its propulsion system and turned on its active sonar seeker and chased the target to impact.
    In its anti ship role in the main body of the missile there was a radar seeker and a 300kg HE warhead. The torpedo was not released before impact and its warhead and fuel provided the extra power to sink a ship by providing extra explosive for the blast and extra fuel for incendiary effect.

    The ship was seen as unbalanced in the west because "it was considered vulnerable to even a WWII Gearing class destroyer". Of course in the anti ship mode the Silex would have easily dealt with most WWII destroyers.

    Later models of the missiles retained the anti ship capabilities but added IR as well as radar guidance to improve their anti ship performance.



    This is the UKSK vertical launcher which is fitted to the newer versions of the Krivak Class vessels and one launcher replacing the old 4 tube launcher alone is a large step up in capability. Though the anti sub Klub missile is not a dual anti ship anti Sub weapon with 8 tubes the new vessels can have the anti sub klub missile that is every bit as capable as the Silex in anti sub use though probably better with its newer model more capable torpedo payload, in the remaining 4 tubes it could carry Oniks or Brahmos which of course have significantly higher anti ship performance than the subsonic Silex. Equally the tubes can be loaded with land attack cruise missiles, and subsonic and supersonic versions of the Klub system.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:26 pm

    The Yantar Shipyard in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad will start on Wednesday the construction of a new Krivak IV class frigate for Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

    The Admiral Makarov is the last in a series of three Krivak IV class frigates built for the Russian Navy under a tender won by Yantar in 2010.

    The first two ships in the series, the Admiral Grigorovich and the Admiral Essen, are at various stages of construction.

    All three warships are expected to be delivered to the Russian Navy in 2013-2014.

    In 2011, the Yantar shipyard received a new order for another three Krivak IV class frigates.

    A Krivak IV class frigate is equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil medium-range air defense system, Club-N supersonic anti-ship missiles, two Kashtan point defense systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo launchers, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.

    http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20120228/171591889.html

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:01 pm

    The project 11356 Frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" photographed today.

    http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=267706&download=2

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    Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:07 pm

    In accordance with two contracts tied with Russian Defense Ministry, Yantar Shipyard will build six Project 11356 frigates developed by JSC Severnoye Design Bureau. Lead ship of the series – frigate Admiral Grigorovich – was laid down on Dec 18, 2010. Keel laying of the second frigate – Admiral Essen – was held on July 8, 2011. The shipyard is supposed to deliver first three frigates to the Navy in 2014-15.

    http://navaltoday.com/2012/02/29/russia-yantar-shipyard-to-hold-keel-laying-ceremony-for-frigate-admiral-marakov/

    At least this project goes fast

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  George1 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:39 pm

    http://rusnavy.com/news/newsofday/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15914

    Yantar Shipyard Lays Down Fourth Frigate for Black Sea Fleet

    Fourth Project 11356 frigate for Russian Navy will be laid down at Yantar shipyard (Kaliningrad) in Oct 2012, the shipyard's representative Sergei Mikhailov told Izvestiya.

    As for him, "the ship has no name so far. Other frigates of this project are currently under construction", reports Izvestiya.

    Three Project 11356 frigates are being presently built. They are Admiral Grigorovich laid down on Dec 18, 2010; Admiral Essen laid down on July 8, 2011; and Admiral Makarov laid down on Feb 29, 2012.

    According to the source, "hull of the first ship has been shaped, the second one is almost shaped, and the third one is at the section-forming phase".

    Expectedly, frigate Admiral Grigorovich will be launched in 2013.

    Totally, the state arms procurement program provides construction of six Project 11356 frigates till 2020, all of them will join Black Sea Fleet. The fleet is to receive the first three frigates in 2014-2015, writes Izvestiya.


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TR1 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:49 pm

    Gotta love the headline - lays down!
    When the actual ship wont be laid down till october.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:42 pm

    http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=16171

    Keel-Laying Date of Russian Frigate Postponed


    JSC Yantar Shipyard (Kaliningrad, Russia) postponed official keel-laying ceremony of the fourth Project 11356 frigate for indefinite period.

    As was earlier reported, the shipyard was supposed to lay down frigate Admiral Butakov meant for Russian Navy on Oct 12, 2012.

    Project 11356 was developed by JSC Severnoye Design Bureau. Lead ship of the series, frigate Admiral Grigorovich was laid down on Dec 18, 2010. The second ship, frigate Admiral Essen was keel-laid on July 8, 2011. The third one, Admiral Makarov was laid down on Feb 29, 2012. Yantar shipyard is supposed to deliver six frigates of this class to Russian Navy in 2014-2016.

    Project 11356 frigates are designed for antisubmarine/antisurface/antiaircraft warfare in high seas both independently and within task forces as escort ships.

    Yantar builds this series of frigates for Russian Navy. In accordance with 2 contracts signed with Russian defense ministry, the shipyard will construct six Project 11356 frigates.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  runaway on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:24 pm

    George1 wrote:JSC Yantar Shipyard (Kaliningrad, Russia) postponed official keel-laying ceremony of the fourth Project 11356 frigate for indefinite period.


    Hmm? Indefinite? Sounds like they will switch to another project.
    Perhaps 22350 instead.


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TR1 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:43 pm

    runaway wrote:
    George1 wrote:JSC Yantar Shipyard (Kaliningrad, Russia) postponed official keel-laying ceremony of the fourth Project 11356 frigate for indefinite period.


    Hmm? Indefinite? Sounds like they will switch to another project.
    Perhaps 22350 instead.


    Nah it is just a postponement- the 11356 contract is signed and done.
    22350 is only made @ Severnaya.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:14 pm

    Will we be able see just just 2 of those frigates by 2030?

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TR1 on Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:16 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Will we be able see just just 2 of those frigates by 2030?

    Which frigates?
    All of the current projects have already more than 2 laid down.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Viktor on Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:37 pm

    Interesting. Could it be that the Russian project 11356 will have Shilt-1 as an main air defense unit?

    Interesting to know that the main problem why Shilt-1 VLS was not applied already,

    was its ability to launch only one missile per 12 sec i.e. low rate missile launch.

    Now that, that has been fixed along with some other things which has resulted with tighter package

    (50% more missiles on the same space area) production of Shilt-1 VLS is resumed and as said in the article,

    will be placed on board project 11356.



    "Calm-1"

    In March 2013 at the JSC "NPP" Start "began production equipment SAM launch site" Calm-1 "for the first frigate 11,356 and Baltic factory started production of three ship missile launchers" Calibre "for the three Project 11356 frigates.

    Director General "JSC" Scientific and Production Enterprise "Start" Gennady Muratshin:

    "JSC" Scientific and Production Enterprise "Start" for the first time from its own funds made ​​such a large-scale development. It is about the launch complex naval SAM "Calm-1." PU AP-90 air defense system "Calm" was a nice complex, compact, reliable. But its rate was less than 5 starts per minute, ie each start in 12 seconds. For a modern air defense system is low. Another downside: the deck was very Overall starter, which greatly affected the ship's radar signature. The new development eliminates all these disadvantages, it has become even more compact, reliable, rate increased 6 times every 2 seconds can start a rocket. This is achieved by providing the launching straight from the deck of the transport and launch container (TLC). On the deck with only flat armored cover. Below deck close to each other are placed TPK, and in the ship's Cellar PU AP-90 is now placed in a 1.5-fold more missiles in containers. When you start the use of catapult launch: the rocket is released from the WPK and start your engine at an altitude of 30 m, which excludes the impact of a jet engine on the launcher and ship structures. This improves the fire safety of the carrier.


    SAM Launcher "Calm-1" is based on a modular principle. Module - a block of 12 vertically arranged TPK. And these modules in PU can do as much as is required to solve the tasks of combat ship. The module can be easily mounted on the ship. We have long struggled with the participating enterprises to create a new naval air defense system "Calm-1" (the "Center" MNIIRE "" Altair ", JSC" DNPP ") above in order to convince the Navy of the advantages of this complex. Fleet and decided to place it on the Russian Project 11356 frigates, which are laid in the shipyard "Yantar".


    At JSC "NPP" Start "began production equipment launch complex SAM" Calm "for the first frigate 11,356. Debug the technology, we will be ready to ship starting modules and TPC not only for the Navy, but also foreign customers. We have good relationships with participants developing SAM. I think not only the "Start", but they are ready to deliver ADMS elements in the right amount. "

    LINK



    Im looking forward to see these babies installed.


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TR1 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:51 pm

    Oh man, that makes my day. I have been constantly expecting them to get old Shtil.

    However seems weird they are starting production of the unit only this year, when the Grigorovich is supposed to be handed over fairly soon.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  GarryB on Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:42 am

    Interesting. Could it be that the Russian project 11356 will have Shilt-1 as an main air defense unit?

    Interesting to know that the main problem why Shilt-1 VLS was not applied already,

    was its ability to launch only one missile per 12 sec i.e. low rate missile launch.

    Now that, that has been fixed along with some other things which has resulted with tighter package

    (50% more missiles on the same space area) production of Shilt-1 VLS is resumed and as said in the article,

    I think you are misreading that my friend.

    The one missile every 12 seconds is the old Arm launcher of the SA-N-7, where a missile is aimed and fired then the arm returns to facing forward and points vertically up and a new missile is aligned to the arm launcher and raised into place, then the arm lowers and turns to point in the launch direction taking 11 to 12 seconds and then the second missile can be launched.

    They also mention that the arm launcher is not very stealthy.

    In comparison the vertical launch Shtil-1 doesn't need all the missile handling equipment and the rotary magazines of missiles, or the missile lift to raise missiles onto the arm launcher. All missiles are ready to launch and ignite their motors about 30m above the deck so the damage to the ship is greatly reduced.

    I rather suspect that after fitting it into this new destroyer that they might consider using it to upgrade the Sovremmeniys at some future date (4-6 years time perhaps).

    The vertical tube launchers are much simpler and cheaper than an arm launcher with mechanised under deck magazine with fewer moving parts and more missiles per square metre too.


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Viktor on Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:16 pm

    You are right Garry. I misread myself.

    Excitement that we will probably see Shilt-1 VLS on board had a lot to do with it. Very Happy

    In 2012 and 2011 Almaz-Antej report I remember reading, that they where actively working on Shilt-1 VLS. I guess now all work is done.

    So we can expect one setup of 36 missile pack instead of M-22. In case Russian Navy decides to remove RBU-6000

    one more pack of 36 missiles would fit in (but that would not likely happen).



    Huge system 5.5m x 5.5m x 7.4m and weights 30 ton without missiles Shocked




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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  GarryB on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:12 pm

    Huge system 5.5m x 5.5m x 7.4m and weights 30 ton without missiles

    That is nothing in terms of weight for a ship... each turret on an Iowa class battleship weight more than many corvettes... well over 1,500 tons... each barrel weighed over 100 tons.

    So we can expect one setup of 36 missile pack instead of M-22. In case Russian Navy decides to remove RBU-6000

    one more pack of 36 missiles would fit in (but that would not likely happen).

    Not that unlikely... on many small ships the RBUs have been replaced with PAKET...

    Will be interesting to see what they come up with... especially if it can be designed to drop in to existing ships with the old shtil system as an upgrade... perhaps that explains the delay... they might be working on two versions that use the same missiles and electronics... one for new vessels and one to fit into old vessels to replace the old systems. I suspect the new systems will just be plug and play types that can be plugged into the systems network and can be controlled with standard consoles. The older system likely had dedicated consoles and systems and sensors, so I suspect these could be replaced with new sensor/console standard systems when the new bin launchers are added.


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TR1 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:31 pm

    Forget the Iowa, the Yamato had turrets that weighed 2700+ tons!
    :O

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  GarryB on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:15 am

    The US... not the best... just better marketing... Smile


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TR1 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:37 pm

    http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1307/70/d82226579ada.jpg

    Recent pic, Yantar.

    Admiral Essen has made impressive pace, almost caught up with Grigorovich.
    Grigorovich has not made much progress over past 6 months at all, so that is somewhat disappointing.
    However all the Indian boats are gone now, so maybe they can focus all energy on launching it.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:39 pm

    Russia Lays Down New Frigate for Black Sea Fleet


    The official ceremony, attended by Deputy Commander of the Baltic Fleet, Rear Admiral Sergei Popov, was held Friday, according to Baltic Reporter online news portal.

    The Admiral Butakov is the fourth in a series of six Project 11356, or Admiral Grigorovich-class, frigates for delivery to the Black Sea Fleet between 2014 and 2016 under a contract with the Defense Ministry.

    The lead warship in the series, the Admiral Grigorovich, was laid down in December 2010, the second, the Admiral Essen, in July 2011 and the third, the Admiral Makarov, in February 2012.

    The Project 11356 frigates, displacing 3,850 tons are designed for anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare on the high seas, and for anti-aircraft operations, both independently and as an escort ship.

    The ships are armed with an eight-cell launcher for Kalibr and Klub (3M54E) anti-ship and surface-to-surface missiles, a 100-mm main gun, Kashtan gun/missile close-in air defense systems, Shtil vertical-launch air defense missile systems, two torpedo tubes, an anti-submarine rocket system and a Ka-28 or Ka-31 helicopter, according to globalsecurity.org and rusnavy.com.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:56 pm

    The rumoured names of the 7th, 8th and 9th Project 11356 class frigates.

    Admiral Kolchak
    Admiral Lazarev
    Admiral Klokachev

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